Perfumers Apprentice Flavors

[Bageone]

Here is a recipe I enjoy using TPA flavors it is good right away but Fantastic after it ages a week or so.. I just picked up a bottle I had made three weeks ago and OMG good.

This is for a 3ml bottle at 18% Flavor Strength
Dropper 33 drops per/ml

Recipe Name: Jamaican Rumba [TPA]
Section 6 Manufacturer Flavor Name Ratio ml drops
First flavor TPA Caramel 5 0.3 ml 9 drops
Second Flavor TPA Jamaican Rum 5 0.3 ml 9 drops
Totals 0.5 ml 18 drops

 

[Kurt]

Apple: this is the sweet apple, not the tart apple. Very much red delicious, and it is quite delicious! Fro me 15% works pretty well, might bump it up to 20%. Very true, very very good!

Graham Cracker: to be honest, even 20% is not giving me a lot of flavor. Its there, but very faint. Might need a touch of vodka in the juice to open it up, or it might need sitting for a day or so. Update: alas, after a few days it is no stronger. Nice taste, but too weak.

Kahlua: Also there, but very faint. 20% is barely any flavor. Might also need time or a little alcohol to bring it out. As for a general coffee flavor, I have not liked any coffees I have tried, but I like this one...just needs to be stronger!

Cheesecake: This is very different from Lorann's cheesecake. One difference is it does not use ethanol in the flavoring. More like a mild white or cream cheese with a bread than cheesecake itself. That said, and while I wasn't sure what to think of it at first, I do like it very much, and its quite nice with fruits, especially apple and pear. 20% seems to be what it needs for me. I am having it right now with the sweet apple, and yes, it is like having apple with cheese and bread. Very different than what I was expecting, but really nice, and quite true to those flavors, but not a classic cheesecake taste to me. Might need more egg and sweetening to be more of a cheesecake, but I do like how it is now.

Bavarian Cream: Interesting! Quite good, but also very different than Lorann Bavarian Cream. Lorann is a much stronger, hit you over the head vanilla, much like the yellow donut custards. PA Bavarian cream is more subtle, with a touch of caramel and burnt sugar...more like a well-made creme broullee, including the flame-caramelization on top. This one I also didn't know what to think of at first, since I was expecting something like Loranns. PA is more like something you would get in a restaurant, very natural and gourmet tasting, rather than like some custard donut from 7-11. Both have their place, but PAs is much less cloying than Lorann Bav Cr, and seems better thought out. This to me is a really good one, but it might come up different than you expect.

Malted Milk: Not bad, but not exactly Oveltine or Woppers. I get similar tones to the sweet cream, so the milk part, but not getting a lot of malted part. However, I do get a woppers kind of flavor when it is mixed with Capella double chocolate, so this one seems to want to be mixed with other flavors.

My favorites from PA right now are sweet apple, pear, cheesecake, sweet cream, cotton candy, black cherry, licorice, bav cream. These IMHO are excellent.

Suggestions for Linda: increase the concentrations, or else consider a VG/water- or VG/ethanol-based line. At 20% flavor that is in PG, this is starting to be too much PG for me, and they can dry me out too much. But the flavors are remarkable!! I must say that the apple with the cheesecake ( white cheese with bread) is one of the most amazing vapes I have had.

 

[Kurt]

GoodDog,

I use Dan's exclusively.

First go to the Recipe tab and go Tools/Protection and unprotect the sheet. Enter a recipe using the percents like the others on that page. Go to the main page and on the top left choose your nic base whether it's PG or VG, put your Nic start amount like 50mg and under that target mg like 24, amount of juice you want the recipe to come out to, the amount of VG you want to use, flavor percent ect.

Look to the bottom right "select a recipe name from list -->" and choose the one you added. It will then populate the number of drops (or ml if a big batch) you need to use to make the recipe based on what you entered in the top right boxes. You MUST put a number in the Water/Vodak/PGA field for it to calculate. If not using any, use a number like .010, something really low.

Now, if you are making a very small amount like 2ml with three flavors, that is so small that on the third flavor, if it has a small percentage like 10% it won't show it so you have to SWAG that. I usually make 3ml to test so it'll do three flavors for that amount.

I use 1ml and 3ml syringes. I got the 1ml ones from my vet. Tell them it's to apply flea stuff to several cats. My wife gets 4ml for a large dog and applies 1ml to each cat. A large dog would take the whole 4ml. They'll prob just give them to you. Or a pharmacy will sell them I guess in most states.

Dan did an excellent job on the calculator! Thanks Dan!

Hope this helps!

This is my DIY mainstay too. That calculator is always up on my desktop. I should say another advantage of the PA bottles (15 mL are all I have), is that the eurodropper inserts I get from SpecialtyBottles.com for my 50 mL amber bottles also fit these PA bottles. this totally solves the issue of using a syringe with these flavors, at least for me. An 18 g needle fits perfectly in the euro, and it keeps the flavor from spilling accidentally. Its exactly what I needed, and now when a flavor is done I have 15 mL bottles for unflavored nic storage. Bonus!

In fact, Linda might consider including these eurodropper inserts with her bottles for such syringe use.

 

[MissVapor]

Has anyone noticed that the cinnamon red hots DIY gets weaker after a week? Not sure if its from opening my glass dropper bottle so much or what..but when I first used my DIY mix it was strong..now it seems diluted and weaker...maybe I should switch to a plastic squeeze bottle..

 

[Bageone]

In fact, Linda might consider including these eurodropper inserts with her bottles for such syringe use.

I am not seeing the eurodropper inserts that you describe, can you link to them please? Thanks

 

[Orion]

I am not seeing the eurodropper inserts that you describe, can you link to them please? Thanks

I believe these are the ones that he's talking about https://www.specialtybottle.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=5

 

[Switched]

I didn't use a calculator. This may sound peculiar put I make tiny marks with a marker on my bottles for percentages. I haven't figured out how to use the calculators yet. I use a metric ruler. hehe Don't tell the big boys, okay?

Thanks MacDiver. My problem is just taking the time to learn something new that "looks" intimidating. You explained it very well. I use a 3ml syringe and I think 1ml would be easier. I'll pick one up next time I'm out.

I'm disappointed in many of PA's flavors. They just aren't coming through like they should. She's close but not quite there yet. IMO I love the quality, customer service, packaging and many of the flavors are very good but many need to be stronger. Some I can't get a taste or at least what I think it should be... like Malted Milk. Has anyone worked with that one? I won't give up on PA because I think she'll be the best in the industry and I know I need to give her more feedback. I worry, though, because taste is so subjective and maybe I'm wrong.

E-Liquid Recipe Calculator The one I use and guaranteed to be dog friendly

 

[redgirl]

I got the samples of jalepeno and gingerbread from Linda and mixed them up last night. I mixed the jalepeno at 12% and the gingerbread at 24%. The smell of the jalepeno is kinda like how a cooked jalepeno smells. When I took my first inhale, I totally coughed and every inhale after that was the same thing. It is definitely spicy, but it kinda has a weird aftertaste, like burnt cornbread. I tasted it and it left my tongue definitely feeling like I had just put some hot sauce on it. I tried mixing it with some flu cured tobacco juice and still the same thing, getting that tickle in my throat and making me cough. The jalepeno does separate after sitting for just a bit, so am I to assume this is oil based? And I will try mixing it at a lower concentration, but I have the feeling it's going to be the same reaction. Any suggestions on what I should tell Linda about it?

The gingerbread tastes just like nutmeg to me. It's good, but not quite gingerbread yet. Any suggestions on what to tell her to make it more gingerbread-y?

 

[Pokai]

So I decided to try out the peach flavor again that I had ordered about a month and a half ago. Apparently, it went bad or soemthing because it no longer tastes anything like peach and just tastes like chemicals. It doesn't even smell like peach.

Also got a chance to test out some other flavors.

Creme de Menthe - Tastes like the center of a Peppermint Patty, not bad.
Hazelnut - Horrible. Not nutty at all. Kinda tastes like the bad peach.
Watermelon - Tastes like watermelon, but lacks depth? Something is missing.
Coconut - Tastes like eating dried coconut. Pretty good but kinda weak.
French Vanilla - Smooth and creamy like vanilla ice cream. Quite nice actually, but maybe a bit weak.

 

[geeker]

I have come to love the Mountain Dew flavor. I mix it at 40% into my unflavored nic base, and add 1 drop of splendex per 5 ml. It is very good, and seems to improve with age.

 

[Kurt]

I believe these are the ones that he's talking about https://www.specialtybottle.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=5

Yep. Those are the ones. But I don't know if you can just buy the inserts. I happened to have a bunch because I bought a lot of the 50-mL amber bottles, but haven't used them all, so I have a bunch of unused inserts. Spilling several mL of a flavor in my office would not be good, and it can get a bit cumbersome using a syringe to get flavor from a completely open bottle.

Of course, rather than using these euro inserts in the glass bottles, the flavor can be transferred to a 10- or 20mL plastic dropper bottle, which is easy to use with a syringe: just stick the needle in the dropper mouth, invert, and pull flavor into the syringe. This is how I get Capella flavors into a syringe, since they come in a plastic dropper bottle.

 

[redgirl]

Just placed another order yesterday. Requested samples of earl grey, lemon, & sweet almond. I think it would be interesting to try & make a lemon dessert flavor, like lemon meringue pie. I can't quite remember what earl grey tastes like, but sounded good!

 

[SysEx]

Placed my first order for: Apple, Blueberry, Cotton Candy, English Toffee, Graham Cracker, Peach, Peanut Butter, Waffle, Sweetener.

Should arrive today hopefully! =)

 

[redgirl]

Placed my first order for: Apple, Blueberry, Cotton Candy, English Toffee, Graham Cracker, Peach, Peanut Butter, Waffle, Sweetener.

Should arrive today hopefully! =)

Did you request any samples? With each order, you can request 3 free samples of her "Flavors in development" section.

 

[SysEx]

Did you request any samples? With each order, you can request 3 free samples of her "Flavors in development" section.

Unfortunately, it wasn't until after I placed my order that I went back to check status and saw the note about the free samples.

I did see my package arrived today though, so I'll report back if any freebies were tossed in.

 

[MacDiver]

You can probably call or e-mail her and she'll add the samples.

 

[nicotime]

Has anyone noticed how the nice clear White, Milk and plain Chocolate flavors turn almost black in the cart and atty and the dark colored ones like Coffee get clearer after use....or am I losing it?

Oh and I noticed the White Chocolate has sugar in it so that might be the cause of attys gumming up.

 

[Dkrom68]

Ive noticed it as well Nicotime it is not your imagination. I believe in the chocolates it has to do with the sugars in it as it builds up on the wicking ive noticed in a short duration. But the sugar in the White Chocolate is a issue for sure and is going to hurt atty performance unless you do alot of hot rinse and dry burns.

 

[Jessica B]

I got around the issue of clogged/gummed atomizers by using nothing but 510 cartomizers for my DIY juices. Vapor Kings has them for around nine bucks per five pack and, with the horrible luck I'd been having with accidentally killing attys while trying to clean them, have just a slightly shorter lifespan than what I used to use. I vape one flavor until the cartomizer needs changed and toss it.

 

[Orion]

I do find certain juice mixes dirty up the atty faster than others. not sure how bad the chocolates are because the only one I tried so far was milk chocolate and I didn't care for it so I haven't used it.


I did order PA's bittersweet chocolate and I'm loving it. So who knows, maybe I'll see the same thing.