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AmandaPanda

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Okay so this is just a newbie's research. Some interesting stuff I found on wikipedia, so take it with as many grains of salt as you want....lol

Ethylene Vinyl Acetate
This is used to adhere the extra strips of paper in fire safe cigarettes that makes them "go out" if you do not actively smoke them. This stuff is not biodegradable within the body. There have been no major studies on the long term risks posed by the inhalation of fumes produced by the use of this substance in cigarettes. This substance is used in hot glue sticks carpet glue, plastiv wrap, foam rubber used in shoes, floats, fishing gear, book binding, cling wrap, paint, and diesel fuel to name a few. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethylene-vinyl_acetate

Propylene Glycol or pg
As most of us know by now this stuff is one of the ingredients used in e liquid to make it vaporize. It is classified as GRAS or "generally recognized as safe" by FDA as a food additive. It shows no evidence of being a carcinogen. "Studies conducted in 1942 by Dr. Oswald Hope Robertson of University of Chicago's Billings Hospital showed vaporized propylene glycol inhalation in laboratory mice may prevent pneumonia, influenza, and other respiratory diseases. Additional studies in monkeys and other animals were undertaken to determine longterm effects, especially the potential for accumulation in the lungs. After a few months of treatment, no ill effects were discovered." This substance is often used in oral, injectable, and topical pharmaceuticals, as a food additive, moisturizer, in fragrance oils,
antibacterial lotions, fog machines, paintballs snus, beer, non-toxic antifreeze, coolant, pipe tobacco (ummm hello this is inhaled has the FDA said anything about this?), deodorant, tattoo ink, and more (I named a few that stood out). PG is known to cause allergic reactions in some people, but don't most things. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propylene_glycol

Vegetable Glycerin, glycerol, or vg
We all know that vg is used in e liquid along with pg or sometime instead of pg. It is classified by the FDA among the sugar alcohols as a caloric macronutrient (used in sweeteners). It is used as a thickening agent in liqueurs, as a food additive, filler in low-fat foods, in nitroglycerine,
snus, pharmaceutical and personal care products such as cought syrups,
mouthwash, soap, and personal lubricants. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycerol

So this is just my two cents, but PG and VG look a lot better on paper than EVA. PG and VG are used in products that are commonly either injected, absorbed, or swallowed and in the case of pipe tobacco even inhaled into humans. EVA is used to glue things together. I realize that PG and VG have not had extensive research into the harmful effects they may have when inhaled into the lungs, but this ethylene vinyl acetate is in the same boat. I think we as adult human beings are smart enough to realize that there are risk factors when we take anything into our bodies, and when we do so we do it at our own risk. I think we need to tell the FDA where they can shove it. :evil:
 
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Yeah, the FDA is trying to find a way around the hypocrisy of trying to ban ecigs for being a 'health risk' while letting regular cigarettes continue to kill people. I read in another post, wish I could remember it, an article submitted in ...the UK I think? to try to classify Nicotine as medicine because it has an affect on the body's metabolism. See this way Big Pharma can control all the nicotine and make all the profits, but Big Tobacco business would not be affected by this change since it's regulated under another department.

sigh...makes me sick

Thing is, that is a slippery slope. Using that logic, caffeine would fall under the same category. I am sure other substances would as well.
 

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OMG, That is insane! Today I bought a pack of cigs, a mountain dew, and a 12 pack of beer!!! Does the "FDA" give two ....s that the items I bought today will jepordise my health? HELL NO!!!! The only reason there is an FDA is to create another organisation to collect money from companies who persuaded and are out to hurt you!
 

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I do know that smoking never made me sick until they put the fire suppressant stuff on them. That was why I switched to vaping. I had really bad headaches and horrible coughing. Everyone I know that still smokes is having symptoms from the carpet glue.
That is why I stopped smoking Capri Ultr Lights, about 6 months ago, I was having much the same symptoms, a productive cough. Since I switched to E smoking, the cough is gone, and most of my sinusitis is clearing, but that is seasonal related, this year more so than in the past.
It doesn't make any sense why they want to ban the product. Guess noting makes sense any more.:(
 

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I do know that smoking never made me sick until they put the fire suppressant stuff on them. That was why I switched to vaping. I had really bad headaches and horrible coughing. Everyone I know that still smokes is having symptoms from the carpet glue.

hmmm... hmmm...
I'm old enough to remember the times when cigs were NATURALLY fire proof - you had to puff to keep them burning. With the new technology, something (saltpetre ???) was added so cig will burn up in the ashtray without puffing.
So, instead of removing something (saltpetre???) from tobaco they added new agent to neutralize it? - Very clever!
 

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hmmm... hmmm...
I'm old enough to remember the times when cigs were NATURALLY fire proof - you had to puff to keep them burning. With the new technology, something (saltpetre ???) was added so cig will burn up in the ashtray without puffing.
So, instead of removing something (saltpetre???) from tobaco they added new agent to neutralize it? - Very clever!


Interesting! I never knew that. So let me guess, Saltpetre was added so that cigarettes continued to burn even when the smoker was not drawing on it so that there was more 'waste' and smokers had to buy more cigarettes?
 

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North Carolina just started requiring those cigarettes that are self extinguishing, but I've never had one. Thank goodness for that. I certainly wouldn't want my lungs to get glued together along with all the other crap analogs put in there.

Does that make it 600 additives in cigarettes approved by the FDA now?
 
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