Pre-vet workshop thread
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If it's a plus-up, extra effort, prize, separate from GP, having it for only party/fireworks people is cool.
In that case in my ideal world I'd think you want it simple. Perhaps it's based on a mutually-agreed time equal to or later than actual turning, 30 day window. Permit up to one delay/postpone, outside world, requiring minimum 24 hours notice by the turner. That accommodates classic work/outside items that the turning person has at least some knowledge of. No exceptions other than that one "free" change. "Mutually agreed" for the time so that welcomers aren't stuck at 3 am. Turner must be there within 15 minutes of the agreed time.
(Basically, undefined exceptions don't work well for a contest. Allow one free no-fault change of time, if a person still can't make it that's life.)
The above is similar to what I see in recent posts, ,pretty much what I saw in the CES summary -- nice work
In that case in my ideal world I'd think you want it simple. Perhaps it's based on a mutually-agreed time equal to or later than actual turning, 30 day window. Permit up to one delay/postpone, outside world, requiring minimum 24 hours notice by the turner. That accommodates classic work/outside items that the turning person has at least some knowledge of. No exceptions other than that one "free" change. "Mutually agreed" for the time so that welcomers aren't stuck at 3 am. Turner must be there within 15 minutes of the agreed time.
(Basically, undefined exceptions don't work well for a contest. Allow one free no-fault change of time, if a person still can't make it that's life.)
The above is similar to what I see in recent posts, ,pretty much what I saw in the CES summary -- nice work
we were not imposing any restrictions on the choice of time, mark - to make it work the prevet has to be logged out of ecf - nobody will postpone more than necessary!
OK. So that means it won't have the same problems, because it's "just a little extra". Ohhh. OK. That makes it all better then.
I'm not against it Tibby. I'm just pointing out it doesn't SOLVE the potential problems, nor does it eliminate them.
Opening the G.P. up solves G.P. problems.... I think. Assuming they qualified for the monthly.
CES: Yes. We seem to have agreed on what we want with the monthly/welcome thread. My question was: is there contention there? I ask because someone showed up last night....
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-2012-everybody-welcome-6838.html#post6453264
albeit a month later. So not in the contest. Old way or new way. True? Not monthly. Not G.P. Not Bonus. That's what we're all saying? Doesn't anyone else want to make it open (jj and joke seem to... as long as it's within a moth of their turning)?
BTW. I don't know how to verify his turning date after the fact.....But in his case I can guess and be close. Maybe that's the real question.. how do we verify turning date/time for those that have already turned. It's one thing to say "within the same month" it's another to prove/disprove it.
That can wait... I'm just telling you why I made that quick note.
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under what we're currently discussing, and have all but adopted, he's not eligible for the contest either way- though we should congratulate him for becoming a veteran. (he does get a backstage pass to the vet's forum and if he can get to Ala, i can provide him with a retina scan )
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If it's a plus-up, extra effort, prize, separate from GP, having it for only party/fireworks people is cool.
In that case in my ideal world I'd think you want it simple. Perhaps it's based on a mutually-agreed time equal to or later than actual turning, 30 day window. Permit up to one delay/postpone, outside world, requiring minimum 24 hours notice by the turner. That accommodates classic work/outside items that the turning person has at least some knowledge of. No exceptions other than that one "free" change. "Mutually agreed" for the time so that welcomers aren't stuck at 3 am. Turner must be there within 15 minutes of the agreed time.
(Basically, undefined exceptions don't work well for a contest. Allow one free no-fault change of time, if a person still can't make it that's life.)
The above is similar to what I see in recent posts, ,pretty much what I saw in the CES summary -- nice work
30 day window. That basically unites it. Just go the next step... go all the way. Which is what I wanted all along. No timing crap.
when this part came in
I started to go zzzzzzzzzz, OMG, and meh.
"No warranties express or implied except where prohibited by law except when explicitly permitted by law, unless it's a Tuesday followed by a Wednesday, and the moon is blue but ......."
OK. I'm joking. But, it just starts to get complicated and "not fun".
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under what we're currently discussing, and have all but adopted, he's not eligible for the contest either way- though we should congratulate him for becoming a veteran. (he does get a backstage pass to the vet's forum and if he can get to Ala, i can provide him with a retina scan
yup - but that could be considered next year if those changes are desired
until then we table the motion for even further inclusions
Since when are opposing parties not allowed to cast their own votes? I'm not in favor of excluding you, whiskey or tibby.
Even the U.S. Presidential Candidates will vote this year....
Everyone is allowed to vote.
Also, I'm not an official spokesperson. I'm just your average everyday contributor.
yup - but that could be considered next year if those changes are desired
until then we table the motion for even further inclusions
No we don't. But we'll deal with it after this current discussion gets resolved. I don't intend to "table" jj's or j0ker's opinions and I'm not sure they have been given full time due to our current topic.
It may be a quick discussion when we get to it though.
I agree, you are right
(I over thought it)
kiss principle for changing of times, no restrictions - people have to stay off ecf to make it work, that should be enough incentive to choose the appropriate time
@ atty - i brought jj's post up for the record - in that post she promises to abide by the majority vote - it didn't sound like that to me this morning .....
Cool Tibby. FYI that's still a condition tho (be there at turning... rescheduled or default time).
OK. I have to go tear down a pool filter. No "you're all wet anyway" jokes please!
MarkFM. You know I was just expressing an opinion...IDK if you want to keep it that way. Just my 2 cents.
Later!!!!!!!!!
MarkFM. You know I was just expressing an opinion...IDK if you want to keep it that way. Just my 2 cents.
Later!!!!!!!!!
OK, so.....
this is the basics of what we have unless there are strenuous objections from those who haven't had a chance to chime in yet.
what we want
1. welcome thread - entitles the prevet an entry in the monthly contests and the year end grand prize drawing. Eligible threads will started in the new vets forum prior to turning. The welcome thread request comes through PVT, in the form of 1 post minimum in PVT. Threads must be started prior to turning and cannot be self-started
2. Avatar parties: the welcome threads of those who schedule avatar parties in advance and attend them are eligible for entry into a bonus drawing at the end of the year. The party can be rescheduled from the forum default time without penalty. However, the new vet MUST be present at the time of their turning to be eligible for the bonus drawing.
(in practice this means that threads marked -- are eligible for the GP drawing, only ++ (or
(if joker can't add a bonus drawing, then a bonus entry into the GP drawing would be the second choice option).
Vote count:
Yes:
CES, Katya, Whiskey, TomCatt, Tibs, Atty (though he prefers the second choice option) (Tibs is voting Frans proxy so thats a Yes vote for Fran)
No: none so far
and now I'm really off to do the work that i actually get paid for
Please add me to the Yes group.
thanks morri
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