CES. Weren't there threads marked -- when they were ineligible for the monthly drawings too? Or no? If so, you're saying you want them eligible now. Correct? (Cuz that's how it's now worded... if you realize it or not).
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nope, atty - threads marked xx were selfstarted after a turning ..... i've seen no other disqualified threads
Thanks Tibs. Still
ya!OK. So let's nail down the stuff we left for the end, and get this draft done.
What about:
1) Timing window for attendance of Avatar Party?
2) List thread location (I don't know if you care about including that in "mechanics" or not).
3) Any other things under "mechanics" that you guys wanted.
4) Anything else I forgot?
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Not yet IMO. Close tho. He can comment on how we're doing, but it's not "submitted" to him.
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jj... I don't know if we can mark them ahead of time. If they show up or they don't ... is an event two days after thread creation.
Sometimes they even change their mind... they want a "welcome thread only" and then change to "avatar party".
Sometimes they even change their mind... they want a "welcome thread only" and then change to "avatar party".
Thanks Tibs. Still
OK. So let's nail down the stuff we left for the end, and get this draft done.
What about:
1) Timing window for attendance of Avatar Party?
2) List thread location (I don't know if you care about including that in "mechanics" or not).
3) Any other things under "mechanics" that you guys wanted.
4) Anything else I forgot?
we know, to verify attendance, it needs to be, at the least, a few minutes before and a few minutes after the turning. my preference is to go with the minimum than to dictate a prolonged attendance. 5 minutes either way sounds good to me. naturally, we'll invite them to spend as much time as possible ......
atty, i don't want to throw us off track again but there were quite a few thread starters admonished for marking their thread titles and told to lay off.
That is true.
I thought it would make those behind the scenes cringe a little less.
Thank Atty.
Could we open it up slightly? I'm afraid 5 minutes may not be long enough if someone goes looking for their thread after turning, and doesn't get back in time to post again. So how about something like this:
Attendance at the avatar party is defined as: posting in the Pre-veteran Thread within 10 minutes before the scheduled turning time and posting again within 10 minutes after turning ECF Veteran. This is the mutually agreed upon time between the pre-vet and the PTV crew and assumes that the pre-vet's status has not changed to ECF Veteran earlier. Errors in determining this timing can happen and will be handled on a case by case basis.
The pre-vet can reschedule the turning to a later date/time than the earliest possible time per the forum's algorithm. However, this requires cooperation of the pre-veteran and he/she is now now informed that logging in at the wrong time could turn them to ECF Veteran status earlier than the re-scheduled time and may disqualify them from the bonus drawing.
Beat it up!
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I have RW stuff to attend to. I want people to have a chance to read the above timing/attendance post and review. Then I'll put it in another draft with a 24 hour review period since we haven't heard from several people today.
There is no hurry. So don't hurry. I'm as tired as all of you. Break time.
Later!
There is no hurry. So don't hurry. I'm as tired as all of you. Break time.
Later!
looks decent, atty, but we had a couple of people just sliding in before turning and the turning was fun. i'm hoping for input from others that would make this as least restrictive as possible - my brain stopped working atm
ITS NOT UP TO uS TO DO THIS!!!!
You all do what you want but I am not going to keep track of anyones entry eligability to the contests
as an additional task of marking threads , we were not doing it before,,,,,jj wanted this task, so she should finish out her obligations just like we are.
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i added the mechanics phrase because you had said that what i had originally written in the "how it is now" summary was not correct, or not detailed enough. I have tried to take that phrase out several times, and it keeps reappearing.
exactly
-- meant ONLY monthly, xx means not eligible.
If the suggestions are accepted, then all -- and ++ thread are eligible for monthly and GP , ++ will additionally be eligible for bonus drawing. No need to change markings. ( i swear i have typed something to effect at least 6 or 7 times by now) how it gets marked going forward is up to JJ and j0ker.
Thanks Tibs. Still
OK. So let's nail down the stuff we left for the end, and get this draft done.
What about:
1) Timing window for attendance of Avatar Party?
make it as inclusive as is humanly possible. there is no perfect answer....within 1 hour before and after.
2) List thread location (I don't know if you care about including that in "mechanics" or not).
that the thread be in the new vet's forum is what everyone agreed upon - and is already included in the draft
3) Any other things under "mechanics" that you guys wanted.
that was there for you. i see nothing else that needs to be added
4) Anything else I forgot?
no
I will leave all further editing of the grammer and specific details to y'all
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1) I'm not proposing we mark the threads whis. My comment said we couldn't for the reasons specified. Your point is well made too.
2) Hang in there CES... typing the same thing every time doesn't answer the question I had (just recently) asked. But Tibby answered it. I'm delighted that what you typed turned out correct though. No threads were marked -- that didn't qualify for the monthly that we know of. (Disqualified entries were marked XX I guess). So our suggestion of monthly entry = G.P. entry and that threads marked "--" would also qualify now for G.P. is validated. (I was just checking). In short, I didn't remember this part before:
There were a few entries not marked... those were self started so they must have turned or they couldn't have started them since they wouldn't have had access without special privileges (like moderator/admin rights). Other threads unmarked were pre-dating the contest.
As to the "timing window" for A.P. Attendance for bonus drawing.... still open. We have 5 minutes each side, 1 hour each side, 10 minutes each side.
One concern was "how long should PVT crew wait afterward if someone disappears" and "how early does PVT crew have to show up?" So we want it to be flexible, but not kill the crew.
2) Hang in there CES... typing the same thing every time doesn't answer the question I had (just recently) asked. But Tibby answered it. I'm delighted that what you typed turned out correct though. No threads were marked -- that didn't qualify for the monthly that we know of. (Disqualified entries were marked XX I guess). So our suggestion of monthly entry = G.P. entry and that threads marked "--" would also qualify now for G.P. is validated. (I was just checking). In short, I didn't remember this part before:
with the "ONLY". Sorry.
There were a few entries not marked... those were self started so they must have turned or they couldn't have started them since they wouldn't have had access without special privileges (like moderator/admin rights). Other threads unmarked were pre-dating the contest.
As to the "timing window" for A.P. Attendance for bonus drawing.... still open. We have 5 minutes each side, 1 hour each side, 10 minutes each side.
One concern was "how long should PVT crew wait afterward if someone disappears" and "how early does PVT crew have to show up?" So we want it to be flexible, but not kill the crew.
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I withdraw the hour suggestion- forgot that people would have to be there.
why does the crew have to wait after the turning- if the vet is on the thread within 15 minutes of the turn time we see the title change, they are, by the forum's definition there at the turning. though courtesy would suggest that someone comes back and says thanks (which the vast majority do) making it a requirement is not only something else to enforce, but kind of petty on our part (just like they're not obligated to post in the welcome thread- they have to find it an move it, and that vast majority appreciate it and say thanks)
Let's set this up for those who genuinely enjoy the party, and not make it difficult for them and everyone else by trying to prevent a minority of people who might post once and run.
Oh..i get it- you believed tibs and not me
(kidding)
why does the crew have to wait after the turning- if the vet is on the thread within 15 minutes of the turn time we see the title change, they are, by the forum's definition there at the turning. though courtesy would suggest that someone comes back and says thanks (which the vast majority do) making it a requirement is not only something else to enforce, but kind of petty on our part (just like they're not obligated to post in the welcome thread- they have to find it an move it, and that vast majority appreciate it and say thanks)
Let's set this up for those who genuinely enjoy the party, and not make it difficult for them and everyone else by trying to prevent a minority of people who might post once and run.
Oh..i get it- you believed tibs and not me
(kidding)
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OK. I'm open. I'm also passing the buck...Tibby said before and after...so....
let's see if we can finalize and submit atty's summary and ces' cliff notes today. it looks to me as if our votes are unanimous, except for one yellow bird who would love to include the whole wide world in the contest!
we really need to move along on this and get back to the topic of list placement. with all this traffic in here i've had to stash the list some other place trying to avoid hunting for it and possibly pulling up a prior edition.
Hey!
I'm swamped--but I"ll try to read back later tonight...
Watch it, Tibs.
CES said (in red) replying to my Q #2:
So the date/time/attendance list is in the new vet's forum?????
P.S. I believe you both CES!
So the date/time/attendance list is in the new vet's forum?????
P.S. I believe you both CES!
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