Pre-vet workshop thread
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Atty, i hope i didn't sound snarky about the editing..i was just trying to get it to you so that it can be incorporated into the cliff notes... if we're not making changes then it's ready to put in, with or without edits
Good night y'all
Good night y'all
Hi Starry! We just need your vote--yes or no. Here's the latest version:
Please read the "what we want" sections and vote yes or no.
Minor changes may be incorporated later, after we've heard from J0ker. But that's basically what we all have agreed upon--so far.
Thanks!
Please read the "what we want" sections and vote yes or no.
Minor changes may be incorporated later, after we've heard from J0ker. But that's basically what we all have agreed upon--so far.
Thanks!
Hi Kat!! Just read it and a big ol YES from me!!
woohooooo I love unanimous!!!
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morri
It was unanimous, right Kat?
Thank you tibby for all the hard work. I'm sure your typing finger got real sore today!
OK gang. I'm summarizing what I understand so far:
So. jj2, j0ker (everyone): this is what I'm hearing.
When it comes to the pre-vet thread, it's for people that have not turned but will turn soon. Hence "PRE-vet". It was that way before there was a contest. It's still that way. We do often post congrats messages if someone pops in after turning (like a polite "congrats to you!") but we don't schedule any parties or, as far as I know, open any PVT welcome threads for them.
That's why we're writing this up this way.... it's from a pre-vet perspective.
If you want to "open the contest to anyone that turns in that month" go ahead. We cannot comment on what you do with the contest. We can comment on what we do with pre-vets and how it may relate to the contest... giving our opinions.
So, you could decide to open up the contest by using something other than a pre-vet welcome-thread. However, our pre-vet welcome threads are used for our purposes within the thread.
There are others that open their own welcome threads. Still others have threads opened by other vets. (I think). OK. jj2 accepts those (with conditions, IDK). I'm not sure we need to comment on it much. We have, as points of discussion, considered how we could make welcome threads after the fact and/or hold an avatar party after the fact. Out of fairness to those we have already turned down in the last 5/6 months....we'd like to keep PRE-vet thread creation (by us, by request of the pre-vet) as "prior to turning" for what we do.
However that doesn't limit the contest... unless you tie it to our process exclusively. So if you want to open it up ...fine by us.
Things that created the most problems for us:
Grand Prize entry requiring pre-vet presence at a particular turning time (I think it's defined as earliest-possible-turning-time = 365 days after their join date/time at the next 25 minutes after the hour)...and it could not be rescheduled.
We've suggested that Grand Prize not be tied to avatar parties. An end-of-year bonus drawing is an additional "perk" for those that attend an avatar party in the PVT. It's a small incentive to encourage participation and get people to check out the PVT. Still clarifying that one. The scheduling is more open. Our understanding is that the forum won't "turn" them if they don't log in. So we use that to re-schedule the turnings with the pre-vet's help (by their not logging in until a mutually agreed upon prearranged time).
I assume there is some form of grievance process for those that feel slighted after all these revisions, and any additional contest revisions, are made.
Joker is admin & head of contests on ECF, he would be the one to handle any grievances
CES is currently tracking the text to our "what we would like to see" post.
I'd like to know what the complaints are now, if any, so we can make sure we attempt to address them if they pertain to us.
Wow everyone, you guys posted a bunch while I was trying to type this. Did I get anywhere close?
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whew! we got all the votes....YAY!
since atty mentioned that he wouldn't be around much til later, and i think he's putting stuff together to go to j0ker, can we take the day off from this discussion and play in the rest of the forum today ?
since atty mentioned that he wouldn't be around much til later, and i think he's putting stuff together to go to j0ker, can we take the day off from this discussion and play in the rest of the forum today ?
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your wish is our command!
except that all of you were gonna put your thinking caps on as to the list .....
except that all of you were gonna put your thinking caps on as to the list .....
I'm going to break "the play today" rule and just restate something since we are waiting on jj's and j0ker's input:
For the "going forward/what we want now" part of all this:
Another way to state part of that summery that whis just quoted:
If jj and/or j0ker want the 30 day window, or "in the same month" or whatever... go ahead. We can only comment on pre-vet thread stuff. If you don't tie the contest 100% to the PVT process, you have tons of flexibility no matter what we post.
For the "going forward/what we want now" part of all this:
Another way to state part of that summery that whis just quoted:
If jj and/or j0ker want the 30 day window, or "in the same month" or whatever... go ahead. We can only comment on pre-vet thread stuff. If you don't tie the contest 100% to the PVT process, you have tons of flexibility no matter what we post.
Atty,
I think that JJ is not going to vote on the specifics, at least not right now. So we're ready for the cliff notes to and comments from j0ker.
And yes, flexibility is good
Atty,
I think that JJ is not going to vote on the specifics, at least not right now. So we're ready for the cliff notes to and comments from j0ker.
And yes, flexibility is good
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oops, Nat has not voted yet either ...
we need Starry, JJ, Nat, Mark (and Allazar if he comes back)
I do not choose to place a vote that counts CES as I do not see myself as a member of the committee! I placed my earlier comments only because there was a request for input from people's opinions that had not been previously involved in the process seeking a fresh perspective.
*Returns to lurking in the shadows*
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