I think the batteries were there we just made them more available to the public. IOW You had to seek them out from a select few places now they are easy to find.
Preparing for the Vapocalypse
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I think the batteries were there we just made them more available to the public. IOW You had to seek them out from a select few places now they are easy to find.
It should vaporise the tires with ease.
As long as the tires are unflavored we should be OK.
Heck, my vacuum cleaner is only 12 amps, and it roars like a jet taking off. Hellacious motor in that thing, and only 12 lbs!
Andria
Andria
I'm imaging the cat in your avatar with one ear cocked back.. "Did someone say vacuum?" 
I'm imaging the cat in your avatar with one ear cocked back.. "Did someone say vacuum?"
I would dearly love to see my cat's response to one of those roombas. Rather than riding on it, I'm afraid she'd just go hide under the bed -- until it bounced its way under there with her -- she'd be off like a black streak of lightening!
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It should vaporise the tires with ease.
As long as the tires are unflavored we should be OK.
As everyone knows, flavoured tyre smoke is a no-no.
It could attract children to street racing.
As everyone knows, flavoured tyre smoke is a no-no.
It could attract children to street racing.
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Yes, they're used in cordless power tools, high power flashlights, high intensity back up flood lights, high power hand held lazer pointers and countless other products. I am pretty confident in saying that there are no batteries that have been manufactured for the specific use of vaping, every single battery in a tube format was made for a purpose other than an electronic cigarette. MOST of those batteries are sent to huge high volume battery pack manufacturers, what has happened since vaping has appeared is that some people are buying large bulk quantities directly from the battery manufacturer as though they were also making battery packs, but instead they just sell the batteries for a profit. This is the reason a large number of LG HE2, Samsung 25R, VTC4 etc are sold with a little sticker applied after the fact that shows the form factor and the mAh specifications, this is because that information is required if the battery is sold as an individual item to a consumer.
There wasn't a large market for the average consumer to purchase them prior to vaping but the market was there, all you had to do was look in the right places, no different than what you would do now. The ONLY difference now is that the market is flooded with counterfeits and websites selling the product at double the MSRP, there are still only a dozen or so suppliers of batteries that I would even think of purchasing from because of the large problem with counterfeit batteries. Vaping has sort of changed it in a negative way too because prior to vaping pretty much no batteries sold worldwide had the pulse rating and ONLY the pulse rating displayed on the wrapper, most of them had nothing on the wrapper but a part number and batch number because they're not meant to be sold as individual batteries!!
Actually Sony cut off the supply of VTC5s to us because they wanted to reserve the remaining supply of them for their intended customers.
Which makes zero sense -- do they dislike money so much? What possible difference could it make to them, WHO buys their stupid batteries??? A customer is a customer!
Andria
Sony did that because of liability issues. It's much easier dealing with a few huge customers, using the batteries in a specific application, than dealing with hundreds of thousands of individuals, doing who-knows-what with them. Yes, sony makes a lot of different batteries for individual consumer use, but most of these aren't anywhere near as powerful as the VTC5's. (I bet they're only still selling the VTC4's to this market because of contractual issues....)
The vape market is small compared to other battery markets so it's probably not a big deal for a battery manufacturer even in the short term.
I worked for a large multinational company for years doing product design, tool design and production engineering and I know how they operate. Big companies like to do business with other big companies. It's in their best interest because small companies don't have the resources to take a multi million dollar hit if that becomes required because of liability or for other reasons. And that does happen, maybe more often than the general public thinks. We all hear about automotive recalls and I think people generally know how much these cost the car companies. The information is out there anyway if people want to find out, but a lot more of that goes on in other industries without most people being aware of it.
Big companies also make longer term decisions that can sometimes negatively impact the short term financial picture. I've seen parts designed in a manner that makes it difficult to manufacture so that the product is harder to clone. I have also seen decisions made that benefit large customers (distributors or OEMs) at the expense of smaller customers that would obviously force the smaller customers to switch to the competition. In both cases they were willing to take the short term loss for the longer term gain.
No, no, no!
Your vacuum cleaner uses 110 V, so at 12 A it produce 1320 W.
When you are vaping at 5 V, 12 A gives you just 60 W.
Some difference...
You have made a few misleading statements.
1. PG and VG are about the same in terms on long term nicotine storage (at least there is no reliable data to say one is better than another).
2. Room temperature is really bad. For long term nic storage use freezer!
As soon as I started vaping in Aug 2013, I wondered how vaping had not already been hijacked by BG and BT
I suspected back then, BG was going to tax eLiquid like smoking
... my solution was, create my own ADVs and stock up large.Then came the survival odds on my eVic and eRolls ... what happens if they break or I can't get attys and parts?
Enter nine Provaris and authentic Kayfuns with a half dozen spare parts kits.
I am so prepared for Vapocalypse ... even to the extent, that ProVape, open tank systems and nicotine for sale, do not survive.
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