pro vari v3 ?

[StereoDreamer]

Provari might look into the Nivel chip. That allows for VV and VW, an is, eportedly, the best chipset out there for vaping right now.

Problem is the Nivel chip is made in Russia, and they just aren't tooled up for mass production...

 

[Baditude]

I enjoy people watching. A troll throws down an ignorant statement about the Provari which is followed by the Provari cultists coming to the rescue.

Provari owners really do not need to respond to the trolls. The Provari has proven itself to be an awesome product ad infinitum and regardless what you say will not help a troll "see the light".

Also, throwing down how stupid VW is only trolls the troll.

Some people love VW, some love their Chinese equipment, some love their Provari. Isn't the point really being that we purchase and use whatever equipment we enjoy to stick it to Big tobacco?

You are correct on all counts. However, new vapors come here looking for information. Correct & accurate information. Experienced vapors need to assist by helping to separate fact from opinions so noobs don't go away believing biased opinions.

Just my

It's a WIN WIN debate situation when ignorant trolls try to down the Provari.

 

[dredd0606]

Hmm...I currently own a provari v2, a zmax v2, and a vamo vv/vw. In vv rms mode, my zmax and vamo are just as accurate as my provari v2, and I can actually read my vamo's screen. I agree, vw isn't needed (you do understand that when you set your voltage, your power output adjust depending on the resistance of your coil, right?) but it is a nice feature.

My biggest gripe with the provari may also be its biggest pro...it's the inflexibility it has for batteries. I like running dual 18350s, or a single 18350 if I want it smaller, or a single 18650 for longer battery life in my vamo. I understand that provari is restricting flexibility to reduce problems, and for most users that is a very good thing.

Also, lets not assume that just because something is made in China it is low quality. Anyone here own an iPhone?

All in all, I'm happy with my Provari, and it has it's place. It's definitely not the "be all and end all" device some users claim it is, but it is a solid device with great support, and it will stay in my arsenal beside my $50 vamo.

I wish they'd put a damn oled screen on it though...I mean, seriously?

Dredd

 

[jon5212]

Does anyone here understand electronics? VW=VV. It's the same thing, you have a certain OHM atomizer, if you change the watts... you are changing the voltage... hence there is no difference in VW to VV.

 

[bk78]

Hmm...I currently own a provari v2, a zmax v2, and a vamo vv/vw. In vv rms mode, my zmax and vamo are just as accurate as my provari v2, and I can actually read my vamo's screen. I agree, vw isn't needed (you do understand that when you set your voltage, your power output adjust depending on the resistance of your coil, right?) but it is a nice feature.

My biggest gripe with the provari may also be its biggest pro...it's the inflexibility it has for batteries. I like running dual 18350s, or a single 18350 if I want it smaller, or a single 18650 for longer battery life in my vamo. I understand that provari is restricting flexibility to reduce problems, and for most users that is a very good thing.

Also, lets not assume that just because something is made in China it is low quality. Anyone here own an iPhone?

All in all, I'm happy with my Provari, and it has it's place. It's definitely not the "be all and end all" device some users claim it is, but it is a solid device with great support, and it will stay in my arsenal beside my $50 vamo.

I wish they'd put a damn oled screen on it though...I mean, seriously?

Dredd

Ya my iPhone has froze up 3 times and I've lost everything that I never backed up on iTunes

 

[JollyRogers]

I enjoy people watching. A troll throws down an ignorant statement about the Provari which is followed by the Provari cultists coming to the rescue.

Provari owners really do not need to respond to the trolls. The Provari has proven itself to be an awesome product ad infinitum and regardless what you say will not help a troll "see the light".

Also, throwing down how stupid VW is only trolls the troll.

Some people love VW, some love their Chinese equipment, some love their Provari. Isn't the point really being that we purchase and use whatever equipment we enjoy to stick it to Big Tobacco?

Except this poster inferred that ProVari was behind the times since they don't do VW - LOL - VW came around about the same time as the ProVari with the Darwin. Try to buy a Darwin new & try to buy a ProVari new, see which you get first.

Then says ProVape cornered the market on overpriced VV PVs - I disagree. They cornered the market on well built in the USA VV PVs.

and TBF, I am not a ProVari "cultist", if anything, I am a genisis cultist and actually prefer a mech mod. However, I recognize a great device when I see and USE it for almost 2 years, plus VV has its place in my vaping arsenal. I have seen and used VMAX/ZMAX/lavatubes etc... Will take the ProVari over all of them as long as I can afford it.

 

[Black Strat]

You are correct on all counts. However, new vapors come here looking for information. Correct & accurate information. Experienced vapors need to assist by helping to separate fact from opinions so noobs don't go away believing biased opinions.

Just my

It's a WIN WIN debate situation when ignorant trolls try to down the Provari.

I am pretty sure noobs will note the 99.8% positive Provari posts and see the antagonistic posts for what they are.

 

[Thrasher]

Does anyone here understand electronics? VW=VV. It's the same thing, you have a certain OHM atomizer, if you change the watts... you are changing the voltage... hence there is no difference in VW to VV.

while a little more subtle then that, I tend to agree, I have the vamo for a few days now, and Im not getting it, while cool to play with I think the feature is more of a catchy way to move product more then the next best thing.
Really how can you honestly say, I def need 11 watts on everything I attach to it? when all that does is auomaticallt adjust the voltage anyways just like we do now with VV devices.

all that happens with VW is you just started using an auto vari voltage device


and the Iphone comment? lest you forget there is an american company standing behind their product ready to do repairs and service for a fee (just like provape)

 

[Black Strat]

Does anyone here understand electronics? VW=VV. It's the same thing, you have a certain OHM atomizer, if you change the watts... you are changing the voltage... hence there is no difference in VW to VV.

I think the people desiring VW is that they can find their sweet spot and as the attomizer resistance changes with use (they do) the VW will make up for it. Of course it can be simply calculated - or even use an on-line calculator. Some, like my wifey could care less to know power and DEFINITELY would not want to calculate it either! I set her VV's for the device and she happily vapes away.

Most don't really care what the power is, they just get a feel for the correct voltage for their device.

Either way it is what makes an individual happy and smoke free that counts!

 

[dredd0606]

Ya my iPhone has froze up 3 times and I've lost everything that I never backed up on iTunes

Lol, that's why you backup or use iCloud...

And just to be clear, I'm sure provape has had it's share of warranty issues too...

My overall point is that the provari is a great device, and it has it's place. For someone who's new and wants a relatively bullet-proof device to learn with, it's fantastic. But we shouldn't be dismissing everything that's new as a "fad" and everything that comes from china as "crap".

 

[jon5212]

^^^ Yeah thats just the thing. I normally use a Nova with a 1.8 ohm head. Depending on what juice I have in it I have to change voltage so it doesn't burn. So that would mean if I were to be using a VW device I'd still be changing the watts, which means changing the voltage so It's no different lol.

 

[Thompson]

Well I just figure calculating out Watts isn't terribly difficult as you mention Strat, and after awhile its just so ingrained in my head that I can roughly figure it out in a matter of seconds.

The convenience of having VW just doesn't appeal to me personally.

Though if an upgrade option was added I probably would get it. I just wouldn't be jumping to get it ASAP.

 

[flintlock62]

Actually, no I don't have an iPhone, nor do I personally need one. I have a desk top in my house, and don't really need to be internet connected at all times. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with them, I just don't have the desire to pay for something I don't need.

As far as the electronics, my motherboard is Gigabyte from Taiwan, which is a top tier motherboard. I think their electronics are better than the Chinese boards. And no, just because it's Chinese doesn't make something low quality. But, just because your Chinese stuff MAY be as accurate as a Provari, doesn't mean they will last as long. I guess you are aware of that though, since you own a Provari.

Hmm...I currently own a provari v2, a zmax v2, and a vamo vv/vw. In vv rms mode, my zmax and vamo are just as accurate as my provari v2, and I can actually read my vamo's screen. I agree, vw isn't needed (you do understand that when you set your voltage, your power output adjust depending on the resistance of your coil, right?) but it is a nice feature.

My biggest gripe with the provari may also be its biggest pro...it's the inflexibility it has for batteries. I like running dual 18350s, or a single 18350 if I want it smaller, or a single 18650 for longer battery life in my vamo. I understand that provari is restricting flexibility to reduce problems, and for most users that is a very good thing.

Also, lets not assume that just because something is made in China it is low quality. Anyone here own an iPhone?

All in all, I'm happy with my Provari, and it has it's place. It's definitely not the "be all and end all" device some users claim it is, but it is a solid device with great support, and it will stay in my arsenal beside my $50 vamo.

I wish they'd put a damn oled screen on it though...I mean, seriously?

Dredd

 

[Fishtec]

Hmm...I currently own a provari v2, a zmax v2, and a vamo vv/vw. In vv rms mode, my zmax and vamo are just as accurate as my provari v2, and I can actually read my vamo's screen. I agree, vw isn't needed (you do understand that when you set your voltage, your power output adjust depending on the resistance of your coil, right?) but it is a nice feature.

My biggest gripe with the provari may also be its biggest pro...it's the inflexibility it has for batteries. I like running dual 18350s, or a single 18350 if I want it smaller, or a single 18650 for longer battery life in my vamo. I understand that provari is restricting flexibility to reduce problems, and for most users that is a very good thing.

Also, lets not assume that just because something is made in China it is low quality. Anyone here own an iPhone?

All in all, I'm happy with my Provari, and it has it's place. It's definitely not the "be all and end all" device some users claim it is, but it is a solid device with great support, and it will stay in my arsenal beside my $50 vamo.

I wish they'd put a damn oled screen on it though...I mean, seriously?

Dredd

I made the comment that not all things made from china are crap and you shouldn't let the MADE IN AMERICA label sway your desicion and almost got shot but American products have just as much potential to be crap as Chinese and most of the electronics comes from china anyway but just to clarify before I get shot I love my provari both of them

 

[samwest]

I'm debating on weather to have my V1 upgraded as I can't seem to get it out of my fist. I have had no problems with it as a V1 (1+ years) but would like to have a little higher amp capability. Is it worth being w/o the device for as long as it takes? Who of you did it and how satisfied are you? I've dropped this chrome beauty a number of times and need to figure out how to smooth out the nicks in the chrome without refinishing the whole mod. I like the skins out there but I got chrome and the blue led cause I like it. Sorry if I hijacked this and as far as variable wattage goes? Oh please, mines a V1 and if it can't handle the amp draw there is a comparable atty, RBA, carto, tank configuration that is identical in performance. MY Provari, a standard Joyetech 510 atty and some tasty VG is all I need. I've tried a lot of devices and accessories but this is my happy place.

 

[Thrasher]

I made the comment that not all things made from china are crap and you shouldn't let the MADE IN AMERICA label sway your desicion and almost got shot but American products have just as much potential to be crap as Chinese and most of the electronics comes from china anyway but just to clarify before I get shot I love my provari both of them

......................loads his rifle outside fishtec's house, looks through the scope, hmmm looks like a provari on the table...... guess i can go now...............................................

 

[Thrasher]

I'm debating on weather to have my V1 upgraded as I can't seem to get it out of my fist. I have had no problems with it as a V1 (1+ years) but would like to have a little higher amp capability. Is it worth being w/o the device for as long as it takes? Who of you did it and how satisfied are you? I've dropped this chrome beauty a number of times and need to figure out how to smooth out the nicks in the chrome without refinishing the whole mod. I like the skins out there but I got chrome and the blue led cause I like it. Sorry if I hijacked this and as far as variable wattage goes? Oh please, mines a V1 and if it can't handle the amp draw there is a comparable atty, RBA, carto, tank configuration that is identical in performance. MY Provari, a standard Joyetech 510 atty and some tasty VG is all I need. I've tried a lot of devices and accessories but this is my happy place.

From what I have read, the upgrade is not only for the limit increase it also helps for V accuracy and stability. dunno for sure.

 

[Thrasher]

double post..........................................................................................................

 

[Fishtec]

......................loads his rifle outside fishtec's house, looks through the scope, hmmm looks like a provari on the table...... guess i can go now...............................................

On my table :-O pah you have the wrong house sir my provari is kept on a shrine

 

[RickMc]

I'm no math whiz, but aren't those VW's adjusted in .5 watt increments? A vv, like the Provari is adjustable in .1 volt increments, which seems to be more precise. Am I correct here?

I always wonder why no one (that I have seen) mentions the lack of precision in .5 watt increments. You can get more precise adjustments on most VV devices, but it depends on the resistance of the head you're using:

If you are using a low resistance (let's say 2 ohm) head, going from 3.7V to 3.8V increases the wattage by .4 each .1 volt.

On a 3.0 ohm head in the same wattage range, going from 4.5V from 4.6V increases the wattage by .3 watts.

Is this important? Probably to some, probably not to others, but it's worth mentioning. The more precise adjustments are one of the main reasons to use SR heads on VV devices.