pro vari v3 ?

[tc1]

Honestly, the biggest CON for the Provari has to be the menu system. Outdated screen technology and a menu system that you can't change voltage super fast. Not a deal breaker but if you had to give a flaw to a near flawless device Id say that would be it.

Having a quicker way to change voltage would be a better improvement than adding VW honestly. Most people vape to taste and with some juices you'll find you have to tweak your wattage anyway.

If you have a super quick way to adjust voltage ... there really isn't a need for VW, as you just adjust the voltage based on taste. In such a case VW is really only saving you a second or two of time. Time many people enjoy "tweaking" their vape anyways.

Umm you know that it only takes 30 seconds to cycle from 3.0 back to 3.0 right? If you have a twitchy finger like me from playing video games you can get it to cycle even quicker. I think that the screen and the menu that the Provari has now works just fine.

Compared to many other VV devices, the Provari takes a much longer time to tweak voltage to taste. If I want to try a juice in .2 volt increments on a Provari it takes forever.
No matter how quickly you can cycle through the menu there are still submenu delays due to the menu design itself.

Again, not a deal breaker ... but it is a well established fact.

 

[justinred]

This reminds me of a friend who bought a car over another model because the power windows rolled up and down faster.

 

[tc1]

People get too sensitive when you point out device flaws.

No one is stating you shouldn't purchase the Provari because of the menu system. What we are doing is pointing out a potential con ... or flaw that could be made better.

There is no perfect APV ... and that INCLUDES the Provari. Pretending like a device is perfect and has no room for improvement is very close minded and fanboyish. "Progress is only made when it is demanded."

There are always things that can be better ... otherwise we'd never see anything beyond version 1 of any particular device.

 

[Thompson]

But really though? Oh noes it takes me a second longer to get to this section of the menu?

I'm not hating, just kind of boggled by that. Reminds me of Louis CK's stand-up bit about cell phones.

At first I was kind of eeked about the one button system. Then I realized, if you have one button there is less to fail than if you had 2 or more. It fundamentally makes it a stronger system.

I guess I've just seen people use that as a 'hate point' against the provari and I personally find it absurd.

 

[justinred]

People get too sensitive when you point out device flaws.

No one is stating you shouldn't purchase the Provari because of the menu system. What we are doing is pointing out a potential con ... or flaw that could be made better.

There is no perfect APV ... and that INCLUDES the Provari. Pretending like a device is perfect and has no room for improvement is very close minded and fanboyish. "Progress is only made when it is demanded."

There are always things that can be better ... otherwise we'd never see anything beyond version 1 of any particular device.

No I am not "sensitive" to something that is perceived as a flaw by some people but is a non factor to me. Hence my example about choosing a certain model over another just because of faster power windows or needing a few more clicks on the menu. What does matter to me though is functionality and durability. If another brand came out with a PV that can equal or surpass a provari's durability and functionality and more, I would click the buy button right away. But I would not buy something that has inferior functionality and durability compared to a Provari and just because it has voice command variable voltage function.

 

[tc1]

Why would people wanting a better menu system boggle your mind? There are like a zillion Provari reviews on youtube and nearly ALL of them mention the menu system being lackluster ... and many of those people are HUGE Provape/Provari supporters. It's a legitimate observation of the product which gives insight on how it can be improved.

For those of us who experiment with juices using a wide voltage spectrum it's not a matter of an additional "second", rather much longer. Its simply an annoyance which is easy to ignore due to the precision and build quality of the overall product. But it is an annoyance all the same ... one many hope to be improved if their is a v3.

 

[MrKV]

One thing I dislike about my Provari is how the menu will randomly jump/skip sometimes. It's not a consistant thing but just annoys me sometimes.

There is always room for improvement no matter how good something is.

 

[SinisterRaccoon]

I haven't yet received my black n blue Provari, but one thing that would have been so nice would be a nice small oled display maybe with bluetooth so I could pair with my Razr...while were at it, wifi so I can watch netflix on that oled inbetween vapes! heck lets go all out and just put in the full package. rinnnng rinnng.....click..up up down down..."hello, guess what Im calling from?"...maybe Moto and those peeps over there with that Provape should have a sit down

 

[tc1]

People get too sensitive when you point out device flaws.

No one is stating you shouldn't purchase the Provari because of the menu system. What we are doing is pointing out a potential con ... or flaw that could be made better.

There is no perfect APV ... and that INCLUDES the Provari. Pretending like a device is perfect and has no room for improvement is very close minded and fanboyish. "Progress is only made when it is demanded."

There are always things that can be better ... otherwise we'd never see anything beyond version 1 of any particular device.

No I am not "sensitive" to something that is perceived as a flaw by some people but is a non factor to me. Hence my example about choosing a certain model over another just because of faster power windows or needing a few more clicks on the menu. What does matter to me though is functionality and durability. If another brand came out with a PV that can equal or surpass a provari's durability and functionality and more, I would click the buy button right away. But I would not buy something that has inferior functionality and durability compared to a Provari and just because it has voice command variable voltage function.

Your post still seems defensive. No one is denying the strengths of the Provari nor are they saying there is a better device to purchase.

What people ARE saying is that they would prefer an enhanced menu system in v3. Maybe that doesn't matter to you ... that's fine. But that doesn't change the fact that the current menu system is one of the wonkiest/slowest to use.

 

[justinred]

Sensitive. Defensive. No use trying to get my point accross as seems anything I post will get labeled.

 

[tc1]

Sensitive. Defensive. No use trying to get my point accross as seems anything I post will get labeled.

Your point was that you'd rather have an accurate and reliable device than one with a better interface.

My point is that there are people who desire all 3.

Trust me, everyone knows the pros for the Provari ... no need to beat them to death in a thread about v3. The Provari is accurate ... well built ... and well serviced. We get it. But what does that have to do with improving the menu system? Nothing ... so why mention it if not to defend the current device.

If you don't think the menu system would benefit from a revamp then just say so ... no need for the standard "What makes the Provari great" sales pitch that everyone fully understands.

Please take no offense to what I have said btw... I promise my temperament while posting was friendly banter 'ish and not meant to be read combatively.

 

[vappour]

I can see tc1's point, sometimes when I go into the menu to increase the volts, I'll press 5 times and nothing, thinking maybe I only pressed 4 times I press the button one more time and it then light up, briefly flashes the pu and moves to the --- display, so then I need to cycle all the way through the menu system. Doesn't happen all the time but enough to be annoying.

This minor niggle aside, I'm very happy with the provari, I started with a standard ego, upgraded to and ego twist, the looked at a variety of cheaper mods but decided to go for the best right away. I know that if I went with a different mod I would have ended up spending a fortune trying different mods I was not happy with. In the end I have no doubt that spending a little more up front has resulted in huge cost savings.

 

[justinred]

No offence taken. Cheers!

 

[zapped]

This isnt me being being defensive.This is me asking a legitimate question. Have you stopped to consider that maybe the Provaris menu system was designed the way it is for a reason? Like someone here already pointed out, having less buttons means less chance of a misfire or a button failure for example.

From what I understand this product was on the drawing board for over a year with the main design goals being dependability and quality.Something that was and still is sorely lacking in Chinese mods today. The button is rated over a million clicks, the tube body is made from stainless steel etc etc.

My point is that some of us realize that something doesnt have to be complicated to work well.A lot of times in fact, the simpler something is the more reliable it is. Bells and whistles are nice I guess but not at the expense of reliability, quality and durability.

Some of the people Ive seen posting in this thread are admittedly more complicated than the rest of us by their own admission. They either like to try a lot of different juices out, rebuild their own atomizers at a lot of different ohms or switch varying accessories out on the fly and want a mod that matches their personality.

For them a Provari isnt going to be the perfect mod even if they make a ton of revisions in a version 3 and mistakenly stray away from what I think are the Provaris greatest assets.

Im not trying to be mean but I think people that fall into that category should leave the Provari to those of us who know it, love it and accept it for what it is and go check out the new Ovale Evic from Joyetech that has all the bells and whistles theyre looking for.

 

[kiwivap]

Im not trying to be mean but I think people that fall into that category should leave the Provari to those of us who know it, love it and accept it for what it is and go check out the new Ovale Evic from Joyetech that has all the bells and whistles theyre looking for.

You own a provari, not the company. If you're happy with the version you have no-one is saying you shouldn't be. But a lot of people have been asking Provape about vw. They said they get asked pretty much every day. I really don't see what's wrong with adding it at some stage in a new version. If you don't want it it you still have the version you like. No-one is taking anything away from you by suggesting new ideas for improvements or development.

The three ideas I've seen suggested for a new version are:
Add variable wattage
An OLED screen and better menu system
Able to take other batteries better besides AW IMR

 

[zapped]

You own a provari, not the company. If you're happy with the version you have no-one is saying you shouldn't be. But a lot of people have been asking Provape about vw. They said they get asked pretty much every day. I really don't see what's wrong with adding it at some stage in a new version. If you don't want it it you still have the version you like. No-one is taking anything away from you by suggesting new ideas for improvements or development.

The three ideas I've seen suggested for a new version are:
Add variable wattage
An OLED screen and better menu system
Able to take other batteries better besides AW IMR

I understand that but what myself and a lot of otheres are saying in this thread that their shouldnt be revisions at the expense of quality and durability.

Adding all this new functionality like you suggest adds more "moving parts' as it where. As a general rule the more complex something is the more it has a tendency to break down and fail.

Even though its only a minor concern adding VW onto the chip they have now can cause more heat which isnt good for ANYTHING electronic.If Provari is testing out VW functionality for a later revision they have to consider that as well as size and the durability and quality of the components used to make the chip. Having to make the chip bigger could cause them to have to redesign the whole mod.

Again were talking about quality here and not rushing something out the door half finished like many Chinese manufacturers.

As far as OLED screens go, again you have more characters displayed so its not going to be as reliable as the display they have now. I also find the pale green color kind of ugly but thats a personal preference.

Last thing you mentioned was batteries and I doubt seriously if thats ever going to happen.Theres just too much difference in quality, reliability and safety in regards to different brands and manufacturers out there. While AW might not be the longest lasting battery its one of the most reliable and using just one brand allows them to keep things consistent.

Provari is where it is because its focused on reliability, durability and quality and its done that by following an addage that I wish more people on the forums would adopt and thats "Keep It Simple Stupid"

 

[Pmat13]

As a Marine my Provari has gone through thick n thin and is near scratch less somehow haha. I for one am very satisfied with the purchase.

 

[kiwivap]

I understand that but what myself and a lot of otheres are saying in this thread that their shouldnt be revisions at the expense of quality and durability.

Adding all this new functionality like you suggest adds more "moving parts' as it where. As a general rule the more complex something is the more it has a tendency to break down and fail.

If that were the case they would still only be selling the Provape 1. You've raised a false opposition here. There's no reason both durability and new functions can't be had.

Even though its only a minor concern adding VW onto the chip they have now can cause more heat which isnt good for ANYTHING electronic.If Provari is testing out VW functionality for a later revision they have to consider that as well as size and the durability and quality of the components used to make the chip. Having to make the chip bigger could cause them to have to redesign the whole mod.

They just add a chip. It's not the next Mars landing. But if they did design a new mod, what of it?

Again were talking about quality here and not rushing something out the door half finished like many Chinese manufacturers.

No-one has suggested rushing anything out the door. Red herring argument here.

As far as OLED screens go, again you have more characters displayed so its not going to be as reliable as the display they have now. I also find the pale green color kind of ugly but thats a personal preference.

Oh come on - it can be just as reliable and better for the user.

Last thing you mentioned was batteries and I doubt seriously if thats ever going to happen.Theres just too much difference in quality, reliability and safety in regards to different brands and manufacturers out there. While AW might not be the longest lasting battery its one of the most reliable and using just one brand allows them to keep things consistent.

I was just summarising suggestions people have made. The provari seems to be designed for one battery brand. I've seen it suggested that perhaps they could make the device less "proprietary", for want of a better word. I only use AW IMR myself, but some people prefer other batteries.

Provari is where it is because its focused on reliability, durability and quality and its done that by following an addage that I wish more people on the forums would adopt and thats "Keep It Simple Stupid"

Like I said, they could have just stuck with the Provape 1 instead of having a much more complicated variable voltage pv....

Zapped - its not me emailing them everyday asking for a new or updated version.
I responded to you above because yet again you decide what other people's vaping needs/habits are and then tell anyone who doesn't have your habits to pretty much go away and leave you with the pv you "love".
People are just making suggestions.

 

[Byten]

Well why not increase my post count...

I'm sure one of the reason's for the "outdated" screen was longevity. These older screens have been used for decades and perfected for usability for that amount of time. OLEDs not so much.. if I'm going to spend that much on device I'd like the screen to last as long as the thing costs.

Just adding a much unneeded point...

 

[Riverboat]

I doubt Provari will make the leap into the modern age by creating a VW. They currently have the market on overpriced VV mods, don't need an overpriced VW mod to add to it all.

Provape is not over priced, compare its quality to a Zmax....You get what you pay for.... USA made quality that last....