Prodigy Atomizer problems anyone?

[amatar]

Hey all

My wife, my father-in-law and myself each ordered a Prodigy v1 and finally got them (lots of shipping or manufacturing probs I hear), but when we screwed our atomizers onto the battery unit, the ring on the atomizer that screws onto the atomizer adapter twisted right out.

Now, we have three useless atomizers because there was no adhesive of any sort holding the pieces of the atomizer together.

I don't know if it is a run of bad atomizers or what, but it's a real let-down to have something like that happen when you finally get your new toy

Aside from that, though, we screwed on a couple of our existing pen-style atomizers on there and we are enjoying our Prodigys with fervor...me more that anyone I think...a TON of vapour...a great throat hit, even with the no-nic juice I use...thoroughly happy with the product aside from the atomizer issue.

Anyone else have the same problems?

Chris

 

[franklyspeaking]

I had the same issue and posted about it. The attys for PS don't take much to twist the end right off.

 

[Stover]

Same here. I also posted about it. The Prodigy is my first e-cig so I chalked it up to a rookie mistake. When screwing on an atomizer, just snug it up. Don't try to torque it on there or it the tube will spin while the brass base of the atomizer is already seated. This will break off the wires and trash the atomizer.

 

[PTJD]

Moving to Steves forum.

 

[Casey@PS]

Hey Guys,

Keep in mind that you don't need to "tighten" the atomizers. Just screw them on gently- no need to over do it. After getting a ton of emails about this, I've been screwing atomizers to adapters from each box we got, and I haven't had a single one break. Just a heads up that this isn't an atomizer issue as much as a user issue. They definitely don't need to be screwed on too tightly.

 

[Gibby]

Hey Guys,

Keep in mind that you don't need to "tighten" the atomizers. Just screw them on gently- no need to over do it. After getting a ton of emails about this, I've been screwing atomizers to adapters from each box we got, and I haven't had a single one break. Just a heads up that this isn't an atomizer issue as much as a user issue. They definitely don't need to be screwed on too tightly.

Yeah i put my buddies' prodigy together yesterday, and told him that it was good. The first dang thing he did was look at it and say "Oh i don't think this is tightened all the way", and proceeded to twist the you know what out of it, i wanted to smack him. He didn't eff his atomizer up, but would have, if i didn't tell him to "STOP IT", and just use it.

Edited to add this, screw it on a bit, push the button, if it works, great, if not, a little more, push button, if it works, great, if not, etc etc... we should make a flow chart in the troubleshooting section.

 

[MVP]

I've had this happen with an 801 atty from another supplier on a regular 801 battery, The glue the manufacturer uses isn't very good and can't hold up against PG very well(or so I have read). I try to make sure to hold on to the band at the bottom (battery end) of the atty when screwing on or off. YMMV

 

[breakfastchef]

Wires can be resoldered and connectors epoxied back into the atomizer tubes, if you are so inclined to save the unassembled ones.

 

[StratOvation]

Hey Guys,

Keep in mind that you don't need to "tighten" the atomizers. Just screw them on gently- no need to over do it. After getting a ton of emails about this, I've been screwing atomizers to adapters from each box we got, and I haven't had a single one break. Just a heads up that this isn't an atomizer issue as much as a user issue. They definitely don't need to be screwed on too tightly.

Gotta say.... I beg to differ.... This IS a supplier issue....Namely Saibao.
Hate to say it, but I cannot recommend those attys... twisted of Two already (with VERY minimal force) after only a couple of uses.

If the white crap all over the inner lining of the housing is epoxy , It is either not an acceptable type for this application or they need to get a little on the connection vs. half way down the tube.

Steve's gotta find an decent alternate... Those atty's suck!

 

[CaSHMeRe]

if you say so stratO

I won't be changing though ... I love the 801 atty's far more than 4072's and Joye's ... I have yet to even turn one myself, and I test everything before going out. It a matter of knowing when to stop -- That is, when it snugs up ... STOP. I used to spin 901 atty's (or should I say RN4075) atty's all the time ... never once have I spun an 801.

 

[CaSHMeRe]

I shall also add ...

The Tolerances between types of atomizers is horrible ... If they were closer, we could actually stop the threads per say (that wouldn't necessarilly stop someone from still twisting it too tight though) The main issue we have here is that we need to have a gap from undeneath for air to pass through, which normal devices don't need. Threads end on a regular penstyle and the atomizer stops twisting ... We need an extra 20-30 thousandths underneath to capture air, and in essence allow a puddle to form ... if it bottomed out, you would get zero air, and be using your atomizer like a straw sucking in all liquid.

Knowing when to stop twisting is one of the ugly truths about keeping this puppy sealed up and allowing a puddle to form ...

 

[StratOvation]

Yer Co. ... Yer Call...

How many units ordered so far? How many units when all the new Video reviews get circulated? How many in the next 6 months?
And how many of all those totalled are newbies with no or few spare atty's?

What I'm tryin to say is...
You may have "The Touch" when installing an atty.... But How many new customers are gonna be happy with thier purchase after they "Spin" thier ONLY atty? Just to turn around and "Spin" thier only spare?

I'm very unimpressed with thier durability after 2 of 5 failed in a few uses. I obviously don't plan on purchasing more of 'em when I feel there are higher quality alternatives available. Just My opinion and certainly not intended to sway any purchasing decisions by others.

IMHO, Your shipping a solid new Mack Truck with a Kia Tranny.... But.... It's Your Mack truck.

 

[Brian S]

if you say so stratO

I won't be changing though ... I love the 801 atty's far more than 4072's and Joye's ... I have yet to even turn one myself, and I test everything before going out. It a matter of knowing when to stop -- That is, when it snugs up ... STOP. I used to spin 901 atty's (or should I say RN4075) atty's all the time ... never once have I spun an 801.

Personally I like the old atomizers better. That extra length of mesh sticking into the cart may be designed to wick the liquid better but I find it pushes the cart out of the atomizer and I loose it. That and it doesn't smoke any better than my tested and passed old atomizers.

Brian

 

[CaSHMeRe]

Brian ...

If you could understand the DOA rate of RN atty's you would understand where my heartache lies ... no joke bud ... atleast 30% were DOA from the factory when tested. I still have all the dead ones piled up here ... Dealing with First Union was a joke, let alone trying to send stuff back for replacement. I loved those RN atty's that worked ... I really did, and while everyone else was moving towards the 801, I stuck with it ... I now no longer can ... I need atty's that work from the get go, since getting them past customs can still be a little tricky ...

Add to that, the fact I recommend dripping with the Prodigy, and the 801 atty's I feel confident in now, FAR surpass First Unions Junk ....

my $.02 cents ... But when losing LOTS of money to First Union on DOA product and inappropriate shipping issues/communication that caused issues at the border, I'm playing a far safer bet now

 

[StratOvation]

Brian ...

If you could understand the DOA rate of RN atty's you would understand where my heartache lies ... no joke bud ... atleast 30% were DOA from the factory when tested. I still have all the dead ones piled up here ... Dealing with First Union was a joke, let alone trying to send stuff back for replacement. I loved those RN atty's that worked ... I really did, and while everyone else was moving towards the 801, I stuck with it ... I now no longer can ... I need atty's that work from the get go, since getting them past customs can still be a little tricky ...

Add to that, the fact I recommend dripping with the Prodigy, and the 801 atty's I feel confident in now, FAR surpass First Unions Junk ....

my $.02 cents ... But when losing LOTS of money to First Union on DOA product and inappropriate shipping issues/communication that caused issues at the border, I'm playing a far safer bet now

Ya realize, of course, that You can resolve all the concerns and above mentioned issues by.... Designing and building a Solid American Made Atty to ship with your current and future offerings.

We're waiting Not like Ya got anything else going on!

 

[Brian S]

Brian ...

If you could understand the DOA rate of RN atty's you would understand where my heartache lies ... no joke bud ... atleast 30% were DOA from the factory when tested. I still have all the dead ones piled up here ... Dealing with First Union was a joke, let alone trying to send stuff back for replacement. I loved those RN atty's that worked ... I really did, and while everyone else was moving towards the 801, I stuck with it ... I now no longer can ... I need atty's that work from the get go, since getting them past customs can still be a little tricky ...

Add to that, the fact I recommend dripping with the Prodigy, and the 801 atty's I feel confident in now, FAR surpass First Unions Junk ....

my $.02 cents ... But when losing LOTS of money to First Union on DOA product and inappropriate shipping issues/communication that caused issues at the border, I'm playing a far safer bet now

I can understand that. 30% DOA and 50% of the remaining were duds. Not a very good sucess rate. Both my new ones that came with the PV1 passed the ohms test and vape well. Luckily I have 6 keepers so I may make it until you come up with a US made replacement. Keep the ohms thing in mind when designing it. You should be able to come up with a 2.5 or 3.0 ohm version that will make the PV2 with 3.7v vape as well as the PV1 with 5v.

Brian

 

[Curtis]

I've been using the 801 atty that came with my Prodigy since day one and have had no problems. Of course I've been aware of the twisting off problem since my first penstyle so I've always been careful to never tighten too hard. I think that any mass produced item (held together with some sort of epoxy) Is going to have it's occasional duds.

Jou jus hav to be gentle. Like when jou touch a woman, no?

 

[Antebellum]

I'm saving my three nice PureSmoker platinum 3-holers for some special occasion, but I did manage to twist the barrel off a gen-u-ine DSE801 atomizer on my Prodigy.

This did not cause it to stop working - in fact, I now have a dip-able 801!

But if I look in the barrel, I see a ridge of white adhesive that is above where the atomizer fits. Quite clearly, this atomizer was never swedged, pressed, or glued to this barrel.

It's kind of fun to play with - I've been using it all day today - but it's quite clearly a manufacturing defect.

I have seven more of those atomizers that I ordered at the same time, and have tested each one to make sure it doesn't stick on the Prodigy.

Now you folks have me paranoid. I'm going to have to check all the platinum atomizers now.

 

[Jag1313]

I've been using the 801 atty that came with my Prodigy since day one and have had no problems. Of course I've been aware of the twisting off problem since my first penstyle so I've always been careful to never tighten too hard. I think that any mass produced item (held together with some sort of epoxy) Is going to have it's occasional duds.

Jou jus hav to be gentle. Like when jou touch a woman, no?

It happened to me a couple of weeks ago too. I am not sure if this white stuff is really expoy! It is not hardening out. It almost looks like the thermal compound used between heatsinks and processors. I hope that this is not thermal compound because most of these thermal compounds are pretty toxic and liquids could dissolve some of the paste! 8-o
On the other hand that should give some "throat hit".

 

[Pinepig]

I had one of mine twist out too, with almost no force what so ever.

I caught it before it broke the wires. Clean the thing off under some hot water and dry really well, let it sit for a few hours and pull it out just a hair, put a SMALL drop of instant glue on the edge and push it back together quickly. after it is all dry take a razor blade and scrape all the excess glue off and it'll be good as new.