Proposed Bill makes it Illegal to sell flavored eliquid or flavors used in eliquid

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PapaSloth

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Now, I gotta move even more than before. I swear so much of the crap here is so dumb. Sometimes I wonder if the government is deliberately being stupid, or if they really are that bad. I mean, how can people be so damn ignorant. I'm gonna be ...... if I gotta drive to Vancouver just to buy juice...

I don't think they're stupid at all. I think they really are that bad.

I would offer to give you some, but the penalty for distribution is $5,000 per offense.
 

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Perhaps we can find a way to inextricably link the materials we need for vaping to premium cigars, since premium cigars are a protected class explicitly removed from the authority of the FDA.

PapaSloth's premium cigar flavors. Kickstarter launching in 5... 4... 3... 2...
 

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Now, I gotta move even more than before. I swear so much of the crap here is so dumb. Sometimes I wonder if the government is deliberately being stupid, or if they really are that bad. I mean, how can people be so damn ignorant. I'm gonna be ...... if I gotta drive to Vancouver just to buy juice...

The government is not stupid, it panders to those who are stupid. It is how it replicates itself every two years or so.
 

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CMD-Ky is a judge, so maybe he can tell us. It specifies "distribution," which as far as I know, doesn't require payment. I am not a lawyer.

A happily retired judge and I would guess that "distribution" is defined somewhere in the criminal code, probably in the controlled substances section along with ......,[oops], {Other Stuff} and other noxious substances such as candy flavors.
 
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A happily retired judge and I would guess that "distribution" is defined somewhere in the criminal code, probably in the controlled substances section along with ......,[oops], {Other Stuff} and other noxious substances such as candy flavors.

Keep guessing doc. When you were a judge America was America, now America has left you guessing?
 
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A happily retired judge and I would guess that "distribution" is defined somewhere in the criminal code, probably in the controlled substances section along with ......,[oops], .............. and other noxious substances such as candy flavors.

Your Honor, you can't say that here either even though it put up the word. They get a bit queasy about such things.
 

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A happily retired judge and I would guess that "distribution" is defined somewhere in the criminal code, probably in the controlled substances section along with ......,[oops], {Other Stuff} and other noxious substances such as candy flavors.

OK, you shamed me into it. According to 21 U.S. Code § 802 - Definitions, the term "distribution" is used to define the term "regulated transaction," but no definition of the term is provided.

LegalMatch.com is by no means authoritative, but here's what they have to say:
Distribution of Drugs
While state laws may vary, a person is generally guilty of "distribution" when he transfers a controlled substance to another person. The transfer can be:

Actual
A transfer is "actual" when a person physically transfers the controlled substance to another.
Constructive
The law permits the government to prove that a person intends to sell or distribute an illegal substance through their actions or the quantity of drugs in their possession. For instance, evidence of a large quantity of drugs packaged in small bindles may infer that a person's drugs are "packaged to sell" rather than for personal use. Thus, the intent to distribute can be inferred without any evidence of actual distribution.
Attempt
A transfer is "attempted" when the person attempts to transfer the controlled substance to another, but is otherwise prevented from doing so.

So, from this definition, it sounds like giving someone a controlled substance constitutes actual distribution, even when no money changes hands. Feel free to quote your own definitions if you disagree with this one. Making up your own definitions doesn't count :)
 
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All this talk about regulation..... They should mandate a warning on vapor products, as follows:

Warning, side effects of using this product may include:
A newfound interest in politics and a willingness to openly voice a political opinion regard this product,
An enhanced distrust of government and industry akin to that of conspiracy theorists, only based in fact,
An unwillingness to blindly pay extraordinarily high, unfair, and unjustified taxes,
A scientifically confirmed certainty that vapor is not the same as smoke,
A complete loss of ability to simply ignore elected official who are too stupid to understand that they are trying to regulate and ban something that has about as much tobacco in it as a cell phone by calling it a tobacco product.
 

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System error 922, Vaper does not want to pay tax or deal with stupidity, vaper should be made to pay 99 percent tax even in Prague.

BTW if you find some good juice down there please think of you brothers up here in the penitentiary :D

I'd like to open a high end vape shop and have satellite kiosks throughout the city. There are no sin taxes in Prague, because nothing enjoyable is considered a sin...
 
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