Don't feel bad. Embarrased to tell ya how much money I spent on the dang things last year.
Good luck.
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Don't feel bad. Embarrased to tell ya how much money I spent on the dang things last year.
Good luck.
I don't get really excited about much. Kinda stoic that way if you know what I mean, but DAAYaaamn this Mega is Chunk'n the vape BIG time with a dual coil build on my mech mod. Thick dense flavor enriched dripper clouds. Crossing coil layout, that is, coils set 90° to each other. Each coil easily handling about 10watts (20 watts total) with air flow control set on level 5 w/ 50/50 juice.
Dual 29awg, 8/7, 5/64", .9 ohm net, kgd.
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Dual 29awg, 8/7, 5/64", .9 ohm net, kgd.
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Cig, I'm usin' your jig bro. Have at it. These people aren't competition.
Good luck.
Mac, glad you're finding it useful. It means a great deal to me personally.
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Mac, glad you're finding it useful. It means a great deal to me personally.
I'm an advocate of symmetry and proper electrical principle. I think efficiency yields the best vape predictably. And that's the baseline I'm trying to pass on by the fastest most practical form I could find. I'm open to any alternative that just works. But by all means let's get them there.
Good luck to all of you.
I don't get really excited about much. Kinda stoic that way if you know what I mean, but DAAYaaamn this Mega is Chunk'n the vape BIG time with a dual coil build on my mech mod. Thick dense flavor enriched dripper clouds. Crossing coil layout, that is, coils set 90° to each other. Each coil easily handling about 10watts (20 watts total) with air flow control set on level 5 w/ 50/50 juice.
Dual 29awg, 8/7, 5/64", .9 ohm net, kgd.
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Ok, may have gotten a little excited there and left out some important advice. This build was posted for those who have mastered single coil builds. It requires a good deal of experience with kanger heads and tmc builds as well as drilling extra holes, filing off burrs, setting two tmc's etc... not really for newb's but rather an exposition demonstrating that we probably have not found the limits of this device. If any of you advanced builders would like to know more about the build pm me.
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I was just doing some exploring on line and ran in to the Aspire Atlantis (.5 ohm) BVC.
I'm not really a cloud chaser at all, I've always been a flavor first kind of guy vapor second. It sure seems like the industry is starting to head in a different direction though.
Just an opinion from crg
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I'm not really a cloud chaser at all, I've always been a flavor first kind of guy vapor second. It sure seems like the industry is starting to head in a different direction though.
Just an opinion from crg
Vape On My Friends!
Wow
So informative and thanks for the 'summary'
ADD diagnosis 40 some years ago keeps me from being able to retain or remember what I read five minutes ago.
This information helps me understand greatly why sometimes a vape is spot on and other times (with same equipment, wicking etc) it is not right
So informative and thanks for the 'summary'
ADD diagnosis 40 some years ago keeps me from being able to retain or remember what I read five minutes ago.
This information helps me understand greatly why sometimes a vape is spot on and other times (with same equipment, wicking etc) it is not right
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So as we lay awake at night contemplating the behaviours of varying tank sizes and shapes it may be helpful to consider a couple of known scientific aspects of liquids and gases.
First, gases (air included) are compressible and expandable. This includes air in vacuum (negative pressure) environments. In our case the air in our tanks is in a constant state of vacuum but the amount of vacuum (in/hg) varies slightly dependent upon whether a bubble of air has just risen to the top of the tank or not. Slightly more vacuum (causing less juice flow) if it has been a while since one has risen; slightly less vacuum (causing more juice flow) if one has just risen. The overall level of vacuum is controlled (regulated) by wicking density and juice viscosity (thickness). The vacuum applied to the top of the fluid in our tanks is the same in/hg per sq.in. of surface area regardless of diameter and has no greater or lesser effect on juice flow based on diameter of the tank.
Liquids are non compressible or expandable by positive or negative pressure changes. The downward force provided by liquids is a result of gravitational forces acting upon the mass of the fluid. Fluid in a column will provide a downward force proportional to it's mass and height. Not it's diameter. In the case of water: water in a column will provide a downward force of .43psi (pounds per square inch) per foot of height. It doesn't matter if the column is 1/2" diameter or 100 ft. diameter; it will remain the same.
So if diameter has no impact on juice flow based on physics then one may wonder why I included diameter in my earlier post where I stated that "I like tanks with a greater dia/height ratio? When we fill our tanks we stop at the point that the juice could run down the airtube. This leaves a small amount of air in the tank. That's a good thing because without some air up there above the fluid our tanks would stop flowing juice altogether. Why? Because without air there is no vacuum; just a solid column of non expandable fluid. An air bubble would never rise. In fact the more air we have in the tank vs. juice the more consistent vacuum we have because each air bubble that rises adds a smaller percentage of air to the overall air in the tank. This translates to more consistent juice flow. That's why I stated that I thought you would like the Mega. Because bdc clearos have shorter air tubes (taller wickheads) you will always have ample air above the juice after refill. Even more so with larger diameter tanks.
The following is my understanding of the dynamics controlling juice flow in tanks.
The negative pressurized air (vacuum) above the juice is regulated by a valve (the wick) and the viscosity (thickness) of the juice and remains fairly constant throughout the tank level. However, this negative pressurized air also acts an air spring and the spring tension (ability to resist expansion) of this air spring is controlled by the amount of air vs. juice in the tank. Greater volumes of air are easier to expand than smaller volumes. The level of vacuum AND this air spring tension is what dictates how much draw effort is required to pull juice from the tank. So as the ratio of air vs. juice increases so does our abilty to overcome the normalized vacuum by stretching the air spring with only slightly greater than needed draw effort. This is why as tank juice level drops we can experience flooding at or near the bottom of the tank if not wicked heavy enough. As it is, this is the condition that I wick for, the bottom of the tank, not the top.
Summary of sorts:
The looser you wick; the lower the vacuum (because air can more easily migrate through the wick and into the tank) and allows more juice flow.
The thinner the juice; the lower the vacuum (because air can more easily migrate through the wick and into the tank) and allows more juice flow.
The more air vs. juice in the tank; the less vacuum change per risen air bubble occurs allowing for greater consistency in juice flow.
The more air vs. juice in the tank the easier it is to pull juice from the tank with a given draw effort because the "air spring" weakens.
Vacuum levels in the tank do not change much with changes in fluid levels of tank.
Wicking density should be adequate to stave off flooding at or near empty tank levels.
Hope this helps.
Also it is round and the cig majig is four sided for easy counting off of wraps
Saw the video also crg. Seems to be pretty slick but sadly offers no control over tension that I can see. You?
I sat down with my Cig tool last night and made a perfect (for me) 1.7 coil fro my dripper. Tried to take a pic but my camera in phone is not good. Charging some batteries now so I can use my Olympus and hopefully capture a pic.
On another note I love LUV my Eleaf Istick
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On another note I love LUV my Eleaf Istick
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looks much better with Protank (pink glass) than Taifun
looks much better with Protank (pink glass) than Taifun
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Come on NOW!!
Where is everyone??????????? Something must be going on!
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Where is everyone??????????? Something must be going on!
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I'm still here but haven't touched my Protank in over a week now hehe. Too busy with my Kayfun Lite!! Although I'm almost out of my lower nic juices so my 18mg stuff goes in the PT.. That stuff just completely loses all its flavor in the KFL!
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I was just doing some exploring on line and ran in to the Aspire Atlantis (.5 ohm) BVC.
I'm not really a cloud chaser at all, I've always been a flavor first kind of guy vapor second. It sure seems like the industry is starting to head in a different direction though.
Just an opinion from crg
Vape On My Friends!
WTH, we'll do a Two-for-One at Jack LaLanne's here.
If everybody's rebuilding instead of trying to figure out nickel and titanium that would be nice. We're not here to learn how to wind costume jewelry or wrestle with springy coils. Not that there's anything wrong with that. This is the get to the vapin' thread. So we can't blame 'em for doing just that.
But it seems your curiosity did not go unanswered C. You have to wonder why all the fuss buttering the griddle if ya ain't got no eggs tho. So ok a few days back and I think more than a month after Aspire Kanger did throw us a bone. And it's a doozie as picked up on this reddit thread...Didn't take long for Kanger to respond to Aspire's sub-ohm coils. Subtank can be built like an RBA, plus new subohm Kanger Coils…and there's an article by Vapescores here on the new Kanger Subtank.
I've long applauded Kanger on this thread for their designs but thoroughly trashed them as well as other China producers for the incomprehensible quality of their coils. Also for hiding their efforts in continuing this travesty while not actually correcting it with band-aids like NR wire. By the time the vaping community comes to understand truly the meaning of that, hmmm, I wonder.
Now with the fanfare of mystery…it would seem that Kanger's intent on performing miracles. Not only are they going to fix their coils and give us finally good ones that are backward compatible but they're going to make it easy for us to rebuild them by thoroughly ripping off the Kayfun and goodness they're going to throw in the magical mystery coil…the solution in the ultimate high end vape in a rubic's cube.
And who knows just what might be in that! So I guess three-card monty? if Aspire can give us overgrown carto tanks. Why not? Soon it'll be 20$ quads in a cube. Will they still be shorting? Or will it be another magical circuit?
What do you kids think?
Good luck.
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If I can build it myself, I can make it better!
Just an initial opinion until I pick one up!! And I WILL!!!
Vape On My Friends! GO KANGER TECH. !!!!!
PS: It's sad where the technology has to come from! At least someone listens!
Just an initial opinion until I pick one up!! And I WILL!!!
Vape On My Friends! GO KANGER TECH. !!!!!
PS: It's sad where the technology has to come from! At least someone listens!
Kind of a Side Note,
I have a GP Salt n Pepper tank that I like. I purchased a Sophia to go with it and have air flow issues with it. I purchased a Diver V2 but I wasn't getting the flavor and due to its .055 restriction in slot width, there isn't a lot you can do regarding coil builds.
I asked around at vendors here in the U.S. and no one had suggestions. I checked out the Atmistique web site and they have ceramic cups with 2mm slots and cups with crossed slots for dual coils!! Why aren't they carried here??
The air flow is better on the Diver due to grooves in the 510 connector to allow air flow upwards, and they make ceramic cups to accommodate proper builds! Yet the U.S. suppliers don't carry them.
Why is the technology so far ahead in EUROPE? Who is holding WHO back??
Just my opinion!!
Vape On My Friends!
I have a GP Salt n Pepper tank that I like. I purchased a Sophia to go with it and have air flow issues with it. I purchased a Diver V2 but I wasn't getting the flavor and due to its .055 restriction in slot width, there isn't a lot you can do regarding coil builds.
I asked around at vendors here in the U.S. and no one had suggestions. I checked out the Atmistique web site and they have ceramic cups with 2mm slots and cups with crossed slots for dual coils!! Why aren't they carried here??
The air flow is better on the Diver due to grooves in the 510 connector to allow air flow upwards, and they make ceramic cups to accommodate proper builds! Yet the U.S. suppliers don't carry them.
Why is the technology so far ahead in EUROPE? Who is holding WHO back??
Just my opinion!!
Vape On My Friends!
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