Protesting your "Verified Member" debacle!
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Sorry, it's called an Administrative Subpoena:
We Don't Need No Stinking Warrant: The Disturbing, Unchecked Rise of the Administrative Subpoena | Threat Level | Wired.com
If you are concerned about people Getting and or Using your Personal Information on the Internet, the Best thing to do to be Absolutely Safe is to Unplug your Network Cable.
100% feedback on ebay helps a lot too
50% score (2 items bought,happy to get your money) (2 items sold,buyers never received items or misrepresented items,that gets you unverified in a jiffy)
You never bought anything there?
Vouchers system kicks in
No friends,not even cyberfriends?
Damn!
I started to, but the forum board also wanted my name, address, and other info for their records. IMHO, we need to start making our footprint smaller on the internet, not larger. Way too many places have our personal info. And way too many places get hacked and have that info spilled all over the internet. Your info only needs to be posted one time for it to be archived forever and available to every identity thief who is trying to look you up.
Funny story, me and friend were discussing this and he said he was very careful and that no one could find any info on him, so I bet him I could. I did a few searches and found that he was on an email-list which is archived on the net. From there I saw he had invited people to his house and got his name, address, phone, GPS coordinates to his house, I went to Google Maps and took a few satellite pics of his house. I got even more info at other places. From the info I listed 10 of his best friends, his hobbies, even what city he was born in. You can also look up political party affiliation, taxes on a house, and so much more is out there and freely available. I bundled it all up and sent him a copy. He was a little freaked by some of it.
Spend a few minutes and Google yourself. You might be surprised what you find! (for a laugh don't forget to look under Google Images)
I guess many would say I am paranoid. But Google me and you find nothing (I have to thank my instructor for Computer Information 101. He told us under no circumstances use our real names on the net.) Which isn't to say I'm not represented on the net. I have hundreds of pseudonyms, some before the WWW (remember Gopher, Telnet, FTP, Email-Lists? Haha, there were no click-able links back then! It was all apps and DOS prompts!) It's funny when I come across an old message from decades past under so many different names. I forget the old names till I see them. But all that info is still there. It never goes away...ever! So I figure we should all be a little more paranoid.
I guess I'm just an old fuddy duddy. It shocks me what people post on Facebook and other social networking sites, pictures of themselves, personal info, contact info, current location. I guess the new generation simply feels the benefits of such info being posted everywhere outweigh the risks. Where as my generation feel the risks are too high to post that kind of information. To each their own...and good luck!
We've all got a choice, get verified to participate in the classifieds or don't and buy and sell somewhere else. This system seems to be working really well for ECF, it's here to stay. The only thing I would like to see, is viewing access for unverified members. I'm not even sure if this is possible, but it would be nice to be able to view the classifieds without having posting privileges. There may be a reason I'm not aware of why this isn't allowed, but I can't personally see the harm in unverified members viewing the classifieds.
Darn, I don't know 3 people well enough to get verified. How about a New verification rule? Two years active participation, and No infractions? Please? Please?
Please? Please?I am not sure if the admins/mods are actively processing verification's these days. I submitted my application about 3 weeks ago and haven't heard since, agreed everyone is busy and lots of people are probably submitting applications everyday. There has to be some better way to make this process a little easier and smoother.
I started to, but the forum board also wanted my name, address, and other info for their records. IMHO, we need to start making our footprint smaller on the internet, not larger. Way too many places have our personal info. And way too many places get hacked and have that info spilled all over the internet. Your info only needs to be posted one time for it to be archived forever and available to every identity thief who is trying to look you up.
Funny story, me and friend were discussing this and he said he was very careful and that no one could find any info on him, so I bet him I could. I did a few searches and found that he was on an email-list which is archived on the net. From there I saw he had invited people to his house and got his name, address, phone, GPS coordinates to his house, I went to Google Maps and took a few satellite pics of his house. I got even more info at other places. From the info I listed 10 of his best friends, his hobbies, even what city he was born in. You can also look up political party affiliation, taxes on a house, and so much more is out there and freely available. I bundled it all up and sent him a copy. He was a little freaked by some of it.
Spend a few minutes and Google yourself. You might be surprised what you find! (for a laugh don't forget to look under Google Images)
I guess many would say I am paranoid. But Google me and you find nothing (I have to thank my instructor for Computer Information 101. He told us under no circumstances use our real names on the net.) Which isn't to say I'm not represented on the net. I have hundreds of pseudonyms, some before the WWW (remember Gopher, Telnet, FTP, Email-Lists? Haha, there were no click-able links back then! It was all apps and DOS prompts!) It's funny when I come across an old message from decades past under so many different names. I forget the old names till I see them. But all that info is still there. It never goes away...ever! So I figure we should all be a little more paranoid.
I guess I'm just an old fuddy duddy. It shocks me what people post on Facebook and other social networking sites, pictures of themselves, personal info, contact info, current location. I guess the new generation simply feels the benefits of such info being posted everywhere outweigh the risks. Where as my generation feel the risks are too high to post that kind of information. To each their own...and good luck!
I don't blame you at all. You just won't be able to buy or sell on the classifieds here. Not that big a price to pay given the strength of your feelings.
Because there are two parties involved in every transaction, one of whom doesn't need to post anything to the classifieds.
The current set-up ensures that both the buyer and seller (or both traders) are verified.
The form asked for my name and address...I am not sure what is so scary about that. Call me old fashioned but I expect to supply as much if I am conducting business on someone's site.
I don't understand the LEO part, if they had a warrant ECF could be forced to just give them my IP (unless I was on a proxy) and the LEO could get my info from my ISP. Besides, why are the police after me? And why from here? Did I do something illegal here in this scenario?
Also, names and addresses are not what hackers are after and I am not sure what harm will come to me if people know my name and where I live...a lot of people do in fact know that.
Seems like a big deal being made out of nothing.
I don't understand the LEO part, if they had a warrant ECF could be forced to just give them my IP (unless I was on a proxy) and the LEO could get my info from my ISP. Besides, why are the police after me? And why from here? Did I do something illegal here in this scenario?
Also, names and addresses are not what hackers are after and I am not sure what harm will come to me if people know my name and where I live...a lot of people do in fact know that.
Seems like a big deal being made out of nothing.
Tried the google thng...not a peep
Did my dog`s name though and 1 image popped??!!!
Did my dog`s name though and 1 image popped??!!!
Yes, you did! Because your a bad bad man! ROTFLMAO!
With just your name and a hometown, an identity thief can get the rest of the info he needs off the net to open lines of credit in your name, bank accounts in your name, etc... And there may be other wacko's who just want to track you down. There are 5 billion people in the world. Most are nice people like Sheriff Andy Taylor or Aunt Bee, but a small percent of them are thieves, killers, psychotics, organized crime, etc... Now ask yourself just one question: Do you really want "everyone" to have your name and address? Really?
I am certainly not saying that some thief/wacko couldn't track me. I rarely use TOR (anonymous browsing) and stuff like that. But why make it easier by spreading more of your personal info around? I draw the line at forum boards. My bank has to know who I am and I accept that. A forum board does not. For me, the line is drawn here!
Also, I am not complaining so much as just letting the forum owners know that many nice people can no longer use their sell/trade forums and that's a shame. I will just use the one at VT. It's no big deal really. It's just a protest.
guess the thieves haven't ever heard of a phone book. (or a city directory)
I never said anything about a password. So I have no idea what your even talking about there. Perhaps you could read my original post again and point that out to me.
Your second point is very well stated. When I buy/sell/trade with someone the first thing I do is give them my real name, address, and phone, hoping they will do the same. But it is my choice to enter into that risk with a single person (I'm always hoping it isn't a crime syndicate, heh).
It is a different thing entirely to trust a forum board to hold secret my information which has the possibility, no matter how remote, of being released to the world. I simply do not choose to enter into that risk. Also, the more places you give that kind of information the larger the risk that something bad will happen. It's just plain statistics.
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