LOL what thread doesn't go off track!! i appreciate every ones feedback even if it goes off track. I just want to be clear, i truly do not believe vaping will be found to be worse or as harmful as smoking, even long term. This is why i vape and why i have converted soo many of my daughters friends to vaping. But i do sometimes wonder about the long term effects that are unknown. I believe any harms found will be completely different then the one's we encountered with cigs obviously and why in the short term we feel better in the early stages. But i do believe more is to come in vaping concerns and we will have to readjust. I am just frustrated with current research and don't trust either side. Both have agendas and i don't like what i am seeing. We should be soo much further along with research, especially on the provaping side. We may not have enough data yet to determine long term effects, but we should have alot more data at this point. I just expect the provaping researchers to be more up to date in their studies and they are not. I expect this from antivaping researchers. Stop trying to prove antivaping research as wrong..their basing their studies on old technology anyway.