Think about living in a city in China like Beijing with their air pollution. Add smoking on top of that (smoking rates are a lot higher than currently in the US), and you have almost no worries on paying out on their equivalent to Social Security at age 65.
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Think about living in a city in China like Beijing with their air pollution. Add smoking on top of that (smoking rates are a lot higher than currently in the US), and you have almost no worries on paying out on their equivalent to Social Security at age 65.
Even in the USA i the 50s and 60s it was normal to see airborne smoke and smog in industrial areas. Our city used to burn trash at the city dump and cover it up once it was just smoldering coals. Test holes revealed that it was still smoldering decades later. The EPA stopped that after 20 years or so. Now they have to line the dump areas and seal them once they are full. Most of trash management is now contracted to outside companies who are responsible for meeting EPA requirements. The City Dump is now called Macon-Bibb Co Recycle and Landfill.
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You could see it in nonindustrial cities as well. I remember in NYC, garbage thrown down the garbage chute would be burned daily at the bottom of that chute. It was common to see black smoke coming off the garbage chimneys of many a building. Car exhausts back then lacked any catalytic converters and all kinds of crud came from those. It took a decade after the EPA stepped in for the benefits to really be seen in many cities.
Air pollution in the US certainly still occurs, but nowhere near the levels of 40 or 50 years ago. China is now forced to address those same problems, exacerbated by giant cities with huge populations, and lax standards for industrial plants, although that is certainly beginning to change there. My impression is that the Chinese government recognizes the problem and is trying to find policies which will reduce that pollution, although whether that can be done without slowing their economic growth remains an issue.
Air pollution in the US certainly still occurs, but nowhere near the levels of 40 or 50 years ago. China is now forced to address those same problems, exacerbated by giant cities with huge populations, and lax standards for industrial plants, although that is certainly beginning to change there. My impression is that the Chinese government recognizes the problem and is trying to find policies which will reduce that pollution, although whether that can be done without slowing their economic growth remains an issue.
Not to mention fracking, (husband's from PA, it's not totally as bad as it was first made out to be, but there are some researchers looking at the topic and finding some problems for asthmatics, lower birthrates for women esp. living near well-drilling areas, and overall sinus problems, migraines, and fatigue. (UPI Fracking and Health). PA decided to push on anyway, other states are refusing it. As far as blowing the tops off mountains, we got to experience that firsthand when we went to West Virginia. I'm not always sure living in the "city" is worse.... Pick your poison I guess.
In Tucson, it's "don't drink the water." Seriously, it's probably near as bad as Flint, Michigan. Yes, you can set up expensive filtration systems and my husband did that for us and my kid, since he could build and connect himself, we probaby saved $1 k total from both systems.... But othewise, you should be drinking bottled water. It's the leeching from all the minerals, as well as high levels of chlorine and other particulate matter. And, we have to change the filters more often than one might somewhere else.... Yes, everyplace is a risk, I guess it's pick your poison (including vaping) and minimize risks as you can. I am fully prepared to not live forever, I just.... If I can NOT die of COPD, even if it's a heart attack two days from now, or a car accident (Tucson's a high risk area for that, too) I'll die happily, knowing I didn't cart around an oxygen tank for years. I vape (now) because I like it, but as far as getting off cigarettes? I can't be grateful enough. EVERYONE in my family thought I would fail. Every. Single. Person. That's how devoted a smoker I was.
So yes, everything has an impact but maybe we should focus less on dying now, and just.... who says it? Vape On.
Unless you don't want to.
Anna
In Tucson, it's "don't drink the water." Seriously, it's probably near as bad as Flint, Michigan. Yes, you can set up expensive filtration systems and my husband did that for us and my kid, since he could build and connect himself, we probaby saved $1 k total from both systems.... But othewise, you should be drinking bottled water. It's the leeching from all the minerals, as well as high levels of chlorine and other particulate matter. And, we have to change the filters more often than one might somewhere else.... Yes, everyplace is a risk, I guess it's pick your poison (including vaping) and minimize risks as you can. I am fully prepared to not live forever, I just.... If I can NOT die of COPD, even if it's a heart attack two days from now, or a car accident (Tucson's a high risk area for that, too) I'll die happily, knowing I didn't cart around an oxygen tank for years. I vape (now) because I like it, but as far as getting off cigarettes? I can't be grateful enough. EVERYONE in my family thought I would fail. Every. Single. Person. That's how devoted a smoker I was.
So yes, everything has an impact but maybe we should focus less on dying now, and just.... who says it? Vape On.
Unless you don't want to.Anna
Lol.
You are kidding right?
Have you been to LA recently?
The air is brown.
Huge smokestacks belching black soot and flames line the interstate.
Rampant industrial air pollutuon on a massive scale.
The solution?
Tax car owners and restrict emissions on cars.
While waiting perpetually for studies that show vaping's relative safety in absolute terms, one can be a smoker, non-smoker or a vaper. As I can't be a non-smoker without eventually smoking, being a vaper is the safest choice for me. My improved overall health and drastically improved blood oxygen over the last six years is the best confirmation I can get.
Life expectancy:
China 76.1 years
USA 79.3 years
Cuba 79.1 years
You see, media of a "free world" is prone to great exaggerations if not lies, whether it is a tale about air pollution or a tale about supremacy of US healthcare. Or tales about vaping.
Well, not only the "free world" seems to be prone to exaggeration as there are numerous sources in China that address the issue and potential solutions. Maybe a few articles from China Daily might dissuade that opinion Air Pollution Control or maybe China Dialogue Pressure builds to fight smog in Western China | China Dialogue
As to the supremacy of US healthcare, I was unaware this thread was meandering in that direction. As to media of a "free world" I guess it all depends on how motivated an individual is to take the time to obtain information from a variety of sources, and not simply rely on a single cable channel.
I mainly watch ION (Blue Bloods reruns) and USA (NCIS reruns). Are those OK?
My only sources of news are Wall Street Journal (primary) and Investor's Business Daily (secondary). Oh! Sorry, and ECF.
I know WSJ is doing something well because both (extreme) sides refer to them as the Wall Street Urinal. I'll keep on reading 'em until something changes.
I stopped watching cable news years ago. If someone went to the men's room, it was"breaking news". WSJ is a good source, and you're right, they go after both sides. FT is another especially on international and European stuff. I will go online and do a roundabout from the three cable folks (easier to close a tab than change the channel), and the NY Times and the Post do show the opposing sides, and then figure I might be halfway to the truth.
If you really want to have fun and watch a game of ping pong, hit up the Drudge Report followed by The Huffington Post. That's always a hoot.
If you really want to have fun and watch a game of ping pong, hit up the Drudge Report followed by The Huffington Post. That's always a hoot.
You know, I gave up on the media when the NYT (I think it was) published how DJT was braindead due to the meds he was taking....as described by his doctor. Which was hastily retracted. I can't BELIEVE that story was real, though given a quick look at the doc, maybe it was. Either way, I can't believe DJT didn't fire him. That was it for me. Sometimes, I prefer media from OUTSIDE the United States. At this point, I'm kinda in despair. The dems always go nuts when they lose, they are taking it to epic proportions, but I can't say I enjoy conservative talk radio much either (I get to listen by proxy, my husband's into it.) Remember when it was Observe and report? Remember when the media was incredibly awesome and would do legit sting operations (Richard Nixon, I am talking to you.) I totally wanted to be a journalist as a kid... until I grew up..
Media on the TV does nothing but yell at each other and argue, and that would be every.single.station. I really enjoy the BBC and some other outlets, but "media" here is getting rather... unkempt.
Anna
I wish Anonymous would take over the media, they did the greatest job of ALL TIME taking out my favorite cult ever, Scientology. I thought they were going to be around a little longer, of course I'm happy it's not. But, I miss cultwatching (maybe I'm a horrible human being, it's just such an interesting sociology phenomenon to study.)
Media on the TV does nothing but yell at each other and argue, and that would be every.single.station. I really enjoy the BBC and some other outlets, but "media" here is getting rather... unkempt.
Anna
I wish Anonymous would take over the media, they did the greatest job of ALL TIME taking out my favorite cult ever, Scientology. I thought they were going to be around a little longer, of course I'm happy it's not. But, I miss cultwatching (maybe I'm a horrible human being, it's just such an interesting sociology phenomenon to study.)
Although you point out, have you seen photos of his doctor? The one who wrote that letter stating "the healthiest President ever"? Besides, he's obviously not brain dead, a dead brain could never come up with the tweets he posts it would be too embarrassed to
That's funny because my Sunday "entertainment" is often The Daily News and NY Post. I love reading the same stories in both of them. It's my "break" day.
And the sports sections, of course.
^ Understatement of the Century Award ^
I had no IDEEEEEEEEEEEA that FastTech also carries news reports! Wow, thanks, Eskie!
(wait...... sumbody say Scientology was dead??? Best not tell Leah.
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I had no IDEEEEEEEEEEEA that FastTech also carries news reports! Wow, thanks, Eskie!
(wait...... sumbody say Scientology was dead??? Best not tell Leah.
Of course they do! You can spend days gathering nuggets of news off those forums.
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