Provari - initial thoughts vs Ego

[Oktyabr]

The Zmax doesn't vape the same, it uses PWM.

And 33 Hz PWM sucks once you've vaped a Provari.

The Provari also uses PWM.

How could 33 times a second suck at anything? Further dampened by the laws of thermodynamics I bet you couldn't tell the difference between a glowing coil at 33.3 Hz PWM and the same coil glowing on top of a pure voltage mech. This urban legend is just a pet peeve of mine, nothing personal.

 

[eratikmind]

I too have a ZMax Telescope and 2 ProVari Minis and the sigelei I must say is almost as good as the proVari. It vapes the same, is durable enough and half the price.

I absolutely agree, without question.

- Andy

 

[eratikmind]

Biggest load of rubbish I have read!

You can't tell the difference between a proVari and a ZMax in my experience.

And a proVari is not a Rolls Royce! If you want a Rolls then get a GG or Caravela!

Not likely, as they are 2 totally different platforms. However, you already knew that.

With regard to a mech, I chose a Super T Precise ELA.



- Andy

 

[Chimney34]

Glad that you are enjoying your new Provari!

 

[Red_Bird]

The Provari also uses PWM.

How could 33 times a second suck at anything? Further dampened by the laws of thermodynamics I bet you couldn't tell the difference between a glowing coil at 33.3 Hz PWM and the same coil glowing on top of a pure voltage mech. This urban legend is just a pet peeve of mine, nothing personal.

The Provari's Accuset technology incorporates a capacitor, and on an oscilloscope its a flat line direct current.

I'm learning today who has a clue and who does not.

 

[UberDuper]

The question isn't how an oscilloscope responds to 33Hz vs 800Hz pulses. It's how the heating coil does. That's a far more complex thing to measure.

 

[Red_Bird]

If we all agreed on something it would be a very boring world, would it not?

I tend to give credibility to those that own every piece of hardware they are talking about.

If they don't own it? I don't listen at all.

 

[BuzzKilla]

I tend to give credibility to those that own every piece of hardware they are talking about.
If they don't own it? I don't listen at all.

ECF would be a very quiet place, if everyone followed that logic.... lol

refering to GG & Caravela ranting...

 

[eratikmind]

The Provari's Accuset technology incorporates a capacitor, and on an oscilloscope its a flat line direct current.

I'm learning today who has a clue and who does not.

I was not aware of that, prior to purchasing my first provari. Ummm . . . Yay!

- Andy

 

[Tommy Aces]

IMO, a more apples-to-apples comparison would be a Vamo to a Provari... Though I've never owned, or even handled, a Provari (just way out of my price league) I've got 4 Vamos (one each for self and loving Spouse (though she says not so loving for much longer unless I can soon rein in my vaping hobby) plus a back-up each) and I've found the Vamos to all be rock-solid in every respect you've given points to the Provari vs the eGo... Just saying...

I think the OP was comparing the ProVari to Egos based on his/her experience, because that's all he has to compare it to. I would agree that a Vamo or other VV mod would be "more comparable", but it doesn't mean it compares any better. I own 4 VAMOS (not because I love them, but because I felt the need for backups due to quality/longevity concerns) and 2 SVDs.

If you're looking for a comparison of the Vamo vs ProVari, here it is; There isn't much of a comparison. I'm not saying that you can't get a great vape from the VAMO, or that it isn't a good value. However, on every single comparison that the OP made, the ProVari is head and shoulders above the Vamo, SVD, or any other "China 33.3htz" mod, even value/price. If I had just bought a ProVari as my first VV mod, I would have maybe....maybe, picked up 1 VAMO and/or SVD.

I was on a mod shopping spree because I was using quantity to compensate for quality. I should have been doing just the opposite. I bought a 2nd Vari, not for a backup, but because I wanted one. For the same $$$ as those 6 mods that I no longer use, my 2 ProVaris would have been bought and paid for and I'd have a heck of a lot less stuff hanging around, collecting dust.

I'd recommend that anyone looking at a VV mod to at least consider the ProVari. I'm not saying its for everyone, but at least in my case, it would have saved me some money and I would have felt satisfied a lot sooner.

 

[eratikmind]

ECF would be a very quiet place, if everyone followed that logic.... lol

refering to GG & Caravela ranting...

Oh, believe me, I have wanted a Caravela. However, even with all of the BUZZZZZZZZZ, I could find enough merits to substantiate the wait and cost.

- Andy

 

[Oktyabr]

The Provari's Accuset technology incorporates a capacitor, and on an oscilloscope its a flat line direct current.

I'm learning today who has a clue and who does not.

Yeah, me too.

"Does the ProVari use PWM? (pulse-width modulation)

Yes, the ProVari is using PWM technology."

From the provape page: Frequently Asked Questions



I'm still curious how 33 Hz PWM "sucks", as you so eloquently put it? Does the coil on such a device pulse like a strobe light or something? The same battery and coil, moved from a 33 Hz device to any other (including the Provari), all else equal, should vape identically at the same voltage.

 

[motox]

The Provari also uses PWM.

How could 33 times a second suck at anything? Further dampened by the laws of thermodynamics I bet you couldn't tell the difference between a glowing coil at 33.3 Hz PWM and the same coil glowing on top of a pure voltage mech. This urban legend is just a pet peeve of mine, nothing personal.

Doncha know that the Provari gives a smoother, creamier (yes, that has actually been posted here) and more phantasmagorical vape than any 33 hZ could EVER give! Heck, unicorns fly 'round my backyard when I use my Provari!

/sarcasm OFF - its one of my pet peeves too. Unless I'm just not a sophisticated vaper, I honestly cannot tell the difference if I move my tank from my Provari v2 to my Provari v2.5 to my Provari Mini or to my zMax. It's a battery holder for gosh sake

 

[Tommy Aces]

Doncha know that the Provari gives a smoother, creamier (yes, that has actually been posted here) and more phantasmagorical vape than any 33 hZ could EVER give! Heck, unicorns fly 'round my backyard when I use my Provari!

/sarcasm OFF - its one of my pet peeves too. Unless I'm just not a sophisticated vaper, I honestly cannot tell the difference if I move my tank from my Provari v2 to my Provari v2.5 to my Provari Mini or to my zMax. It's a battery holder for gosh sake

I really just wanted to let this one slide.

It's easy for anyone to cherry-pick idiotic quotes ("creamier") in attempting to make a poing about "fanboism" (is that a word?). However, just because you don't see a difference in the vape you get from a device doesn't mean that others may not. It's not a reflection on your Vaping "sophistication". We all have different flavor profiles and like different juices, so don't try to portray someone that says they can detect a difference between a device alternating between firing at 0v and 6v and one that fires at say between 4.45 and 4.55v at a 4.5v setting, as some kind of "Vaping Elitist".

Riddle me this all.... If nobody could detect a difference between a $5-10 chip, like the 33.3htz China Chip (which has the added feature of VW), and the chip/capacitor that is in the ProVari, why wouldn't ProVape try to save some $$$ in production and just use the 33.3htz chip and be able to market VW as well?

 

[Aikhme]

which of these 4 do you yourself own?

I already told you I own a Sigelei, 2 proVari Minis and a GGTS!

 

[Aikhme]

The Provari also uses PWM.

How could 33 times a second suck at anything? Further dampened by the laws of thermodynamics I bet you couldn't tell the difference between a glowing coil at 33.3 Hz PWM and the same coil glowing on top of a pure voltage mech. This urban legend is just a pet peeve of mine, nothing personal.

Absolutely!

There is no difference any person can detect and the temperature of the coil is relatively constant, just a different delivery of heat to the coil.

 

[Aikhme]

Yeah, me too.

"Does the ProVari use PWM? (pulse-width modulation)

Yes, the ProVari is using PWM technology."

From the provape page: Frequently Asked Questions



I'm still curious how 33 Hz PWM "sucks", as you so eloquently put it? Does the coil on such a device pulse like a strobe light or something? The same battery and coil, moved from a 33 Hz device to any other (including the Provari), all else equal, should vape identically at the same voltage.

It is a just a pulse of 6.0V bursts or thereabouts depending on the power setting in order to achieve the right temperature to the coil which relatively remains the same and theoretically means that this device will consequently vape the same.

 

[Dvx67]

I have a vamo and a provari. There isn't much to compare between them. The vamo is a great device for the price but that's the best I can say for it. In the real world where I live, the provari blows it out of the water so high that I already have another one on the way. This isn't just about prestige, I couldn't care less. It's about performance. While the vamo is "good" the provari is exceptional. The main difference for me is the quality of the vape. With the provari I get little to no cracking and popping with my devices. I get a smooth, consistent vape and nothing else. The vamo cracks, pops, and "rattlesnakes" through each vape. There really is no comparison when it comes down to performance. As far as build quality there is also no comparison.

I recommend the vamo as a good step up from ego style batteries but it is nowhere near the same league as the provari.

The only complaint I have with the provari is the price. But they really have no competition so it's a personal choice as to whether or not its worth it.

 

[Jeff Mccollum]

i second that i love my provari so much i bought it a z atty pro

 

[donna328]

I have a few ego's and than I bought a provari, I thought I would still use my ego's for work and leave my provari at home, well that never happened. I find a provari a whole different experience and now when I try to use a ego it seems broke. I'm not saying that a vamo isn't as good but I've never tried one yet.