Provari - initial thoughts vs Ego

[Oktyabr]

Hey, whatever keeps you off the stinkies!

I actually prefer pure mechanicals and fat, juicy SLR coils now... but like I said: Try what I did. Take the *same* battery and *same* atty, put them in your provari, set it for 4.0 volts (or whatever), have a friend who doesn't vape listen to it. Now put that battery and atty in a different VV mod and repeat... Or use a mechanical and hope you can figure out how to set the provari to the same voltage... then repeat. If I had a free beer for everyone that couldn't *hear* the difference that I've tried this on I wouldn't have time to be typing this right now.

I am NOT trying to come down on Provari! They have the best warranty in the business and that never comes cheap. They build an excellent metal tube with a switch in it... but it's STILL not a magical flying unicorn. As a life long union member I feel a bit guilty every time I buy anything that *isn't* American made (like Provari). Even though I will probably never find reason to buy one I *still* have recommended others skip the vamo, zmax, etc. and buy one anyway, on a case by case basis. However there is no thermodynamic reason why the same coil, at the same voltage (everything else being equal, like corrosion, juice on the 510 connector, voltage drop in the circuit, etc.) should perform any differently at the chinese 33.3 Hz version of averaged PWM or Provari's *filtered* version of the same thing. It's a battery in a tube with a circuit that attempts to modulate the voltage to the coil to provide even heat and thus, an even vaping experience.

If you love your Provari and it keeps you off of cigarettes then that's money well spent.

 

[UberDuper]

Could be something to the 800Hz electronics. Could be psychological. Doesn't much matter to me. I just placed my order for a provari mini and it had very little to do with the electronics. I would have bought it with 33Hz electronics if that's what it had.

It looks good, has a reputation for being a very well built and durable device and is well serviced by the manufacturer. I expect it to last for years of daily trouble free use.

 

[Tommy Aces]

I have a vamo and a provari. There isn't much to compare between them. The vamo is a great device for the price but that's the best I can say for it. In the real world where I live, the provari blows it out of the water so high that I already have another one on the way. This isn't just about prestige, I couldn't care less. It's about performance. While the vamo is "good" the provari is exceptional. The main difference for me is the quality of the vape. With the provari I get little to no cracking and popping with my devices. I get a smooth, consistent vape and nothing else. The vamo cracks, pops, and "rattlesnakes" through each vape. There really is no comparison when it comes down to performance. As far as build quality there is also no comparison.

I recommend the vamo as a good step up from ego style batteries but it is nowhere near the same league as the provari.

The only complaint I have with the provari is the price. But they really have no competition so it's a personal choice as to whether or not its worth it.

THIS!

I've said it before, but I don't get the spitting of juice in my mouth from the ProVari as I often did from the Vamo or SVD.

 

[eratikmind]

Doncha know that the Provari gives a smoother, creamier (yes, that has actually been posted here) and more phantasmagorical vape than any 33 hZ could EVER give! Heck, unicorns fly 'round my backyard when I use my Provari!

/sarcasm OFF - its one of my pet peeves too. Unless I'm just not a sophisticated vaper, I honestly cannot tell the difference if I move my tank from my Provari v2 to my Provari v2.5 to my Provari Mini or to my zMax. It's a battery holder for gosh sake

That's very unfortunate. You purchased 3 provaris and do not see the difference between them and a $50 PV with regard to basis of design nor execution of build.

When did you realize that? I trust that you would figured it out after the first one. In any event, lesson learned.


- Andy . . . Don't let the Ciggieman getcha . . . Vape'em.

 

[motox]

That's very unfortunate. You purchased 3 provaris and do not see the difference between them and a $50 PV with regard to basis of design nor execution of build.

When did you realize that? I trust that you would figured it out after the first one. In any event, lesson learned.


- Andy . . . Don't let the Ciggieman getcha . . . Vape'em.

Andy, thanks for taking the time to respond. If you re-read my post, I was focusing on the absolutely ridiculous notion that the frequency of PWM has a noticeable impact on vape quality. Focusing on build quality, I agree that my ProVari's are better built than my vmax, my zmax v2, my vamo, etc.. The zMax v3 (telescoping) is getting a lot closer to that superior level of build quality however.

I still plan to do a "Pepsi Challenge" scenario with some of my local vaping buddies. Affix blindfolds, use the same tank setup and have them take a toot on the Provari and the zMax at same voltages. Perhaps I'm just not picking up on the "superior creaminess" of the ProVari vape, but I don't think so. With equivalent voltages, I see no difference in the quality of the vape. Build quality alone, yes - the ProVari is built like a rock. But with the added flexibiity of VW and the convenience of the telescoping design, there's a lot to love about the zMax.

Can you imagine what will be available to us in a year or two? Competition is improving functionality and quality across the board with many rapidly deployed revisions to the big commercial mods. Even Provape made an improvement and changed the etching on the tube of the 2.5 Provari - plus it comes in colors!

I bet the blue one is more flavorful than the v2.0 silver

 

[eratikmind]

Hey, motox, you are quite welcome, as that is how I am learning.

Perhaps, to the detriment of my own vaping experience the advantage of taste between a Sigelei Zmax and a provari is lost to me. Perhaps, it's the performance of the cartomizers, RBAs, RDAs, etc., which I have been using.

I had purchased my 2nd provari mini at the same time as the Zmax. For the monies, I was quite pleased with build and performance of the latter. For the extra premium, I would expect nothing less from ProVape with regard to the quality build of the provari. Truth be told, upon receiving my first mini, it had exceeded my expectations.

ETA: Sorry, was interrupted, as I was out and about.

Where was I? In any event, new Vapers, today, have much to be pleased with, as compared to those whom started a few years back. There are so many excellent choices.

Innovation by leaps and bounds and competition will benefit all of us.


- Andy . . . Don't let the Ciggieman getcha . . . Vape'em.