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In 20 years a ProVari will go for $1,000.00 on eBay, while a Vamo will be as vaguely remembered as a Mr. T Jewelry Set.
Hey I had the Mr. T jewelery set, except mine also came with a feather clip on earring.In 20 years a ProVari will go for $1,000.00 on eBay, while a Vamo will be as vaguely remembered as a Mr. T Jewelry Set.
I love that he's holding a kitten
That is so wonderfully weird.
I love kittens!!!!
they are really really good with teriyaki sauce
Great throat hit too with a 1.7Ω carto (as long as you don't mind a few vape balls).
Great throat hit too with a 1.7Ω carto (as long as you don't mind a few vape balls).
You have not smelled my cat's breath. Sweet on the outside, rotten within.
Well put Fizzpop.... To your point, it's just simple algebra. I never bought into the whole VW thing. If two values are known, one can logically determine the third. My Provari displays both volts & ohms, so...
Here is the formula to determine watts: (Voltage X Voltage) divided by resistance
Let's walk thru this together... If I have my Provari set on 4 volts and my unit reads 2 ohms resistance, here's how I calculate my watts. 4X4=16. 16 divided by 2 ohms=8 Watts.
Change watts by changing resistance- Lets say that I still have my Provari set on 4 volts, but now I'm running at 1 ohm: 4X4=16. 16 divided by one =16 watts
Change watts by changing volts- Lets say I change my volts to three, sticking with our original 2 ohm resistance: 3X3=9. 9 divided by 2= 4.5 watts
I used exaggerated numbers for illustration purposes... With a Provari, the easiest thing to control- once your atomizer/cartomizer is installed, is the volts. Go up or down on volts and you will be going up or down on watts too
Great throat hit too with a 1.7Ω carto (as long as you don't mind a few vape balls).
Needs a Trippy Tip! If that's the first thing we think of when looking at this photo, then ya know we've been vaping too much!
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IF I'm not too late...
In my personal opinion, if you are just starting out, don't spend 200 bucks on a Mod until you are sure about your future in vaping.
You can get just as much out of a device that is much less money.
Get yourself a iTaste MVP; it's my new favorite. And a good and inexpensive tank to start off with is the iTaste iClear30. The performance is stellar and I promise you will not be disappointed. It will do pretty much everything the Provari will and the battery will last you at about 2 days per charge on top of it (heavy use). It is a fixed unit, there is no removable battery to deal with.
Check fasttech website. They have a kit that has the MVP and the iClear30 together that saves a little money too. It will take a couple weeks to get it since it comes from China, but you won't likely find a better deal anywhere else.
I can also recommend their e-juice called "American Blend"; it's a tobacco sort of flavor if there is such a thing. You'll probably want to start out with 12 or 18mg liquid.
If you find that you like vaping, then by all means, spring for a Provari if that's your goal. I have 2 of them and they are very nice units. The MVP will make an awesome backup later if that is the route you choose. Fact of the matter is, I now use the MVP more than my Provari's... turns out, the shape of the MVP is a lot more convenient in my opinion even though it may seem like a goofy looking thing at first sight. It's much smaller that it appears in the photos. It's much smaller than a regular pack of cigarettes or about the same length and thickness as a Provari Mini. Here's a picture of one in my hand ==>
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On the fasttech website, do a search for 1390901. That is their SKU number for the kit you would want. The liquid is either 1297002 (18mg) or 1297106 (12mg). They also have it in 24mg and zero if that's what you fancy.
If you like real sweet chocolates and coffee flavors, their Tiramisu gets really good reviews. I personally also like their Mango flavor, but Mango is typically a really muted (not so strong) flavor.
Their juice is cheap enough where you can get a bunch of flavors to try if you want.
Anyway, that's just my take on it. You'll get a pretty powerful variable voltage unit with digital readout, long battery life, a really good tank, a charger, trim ring and great vapor for 45 bucks with free shipping. The only downside is the battery isn't replaceable. I would assume it's like most batteries and you'll get about 300 charge cycles out of it which would be roughly 1 1/2 years before it dies out on you. I haven't had one long enough to wear out a battery yet.
Oh yea, and if you feel compelled, you can even plug your cell phone into it to charge your phone in a pinch.
mvp reminds me of an ego in a box form that also has the ability to be used as a powerbank (charging phones, ipads, mp3 pls) than a provari (or a backup for a provari). it cant check ohms or let u know how much juice (power) is left except when the button turns yellow/red.
one detail u forgot to mention. by the time he gets his brand new mvp cheap from ft like i did, 2-3 weeks will have gone by. I bet by then he'll have a provari already setup and ready to go.
so yeah if u want a powerbank that vapes as well as a simplistic VV device (eGo) then get an mvp from fasttech for the "neato" value.
If you want a provari and mony is no object, buy a brand spankin new one at provape. If you want a provari and want to save a little money, buy a Blem provari (clearence section of provape). If you want the most inexpensive provari then get a used one from the classys. All three options give you a fully functional trustworthy device with the same customer support/repairs from provape.
Why would anyone order juice from honk kong or wherever ft is? Seriously? Rule of thumb, never buy juice from the same place you buy your hardware. order ur juice from places who's sole purpose in life is to make juice..
ETA: here are some of my non-provari's (mvp, svd, eroll) and i wouldn't trade a provari for any of them, or all of them for that matter..
RHP
one detail u forgot to mention. by the time he gets his brand new mvp cheap from ft like i did, 2-3 weeks will have gone by. I bet by then he'll have a provari already setup and ready to go.
so yeah if u want a powerbank that vapes as well as a simplistic VV device (eGo) then get an mvp from fasttech for the "neato" value.
If you want a provari and mony is no object, buy a brand spankin new one at provape. If you want a provari and want to save a little money, buy a Blem provari (clearence section of provape). If you want the most inexpensive provari then get a used one from the classys. All three options give you a fully functional trustworthy device with the same customer support/repairs from provape.
Why would anyone order juice from honk kong or wherever ft is? Seriously? Rule of thumb, never buy juice from the same place you buy your hardware. order ur juice from places who's sole purpose in life is to make juice..
ETA: here are some of my non-provari's (mvp, svd, eroll) and i wouldn't trade a provari for any of them, or all of them for that matter..
RHP
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mvp reminds me of an ego in a box form that also has the ability to be used as a powerbank (charging phones, ipads, mp3 pls) than a provari (or a backup for a provari). it cant check ohms or let u know how much juice (power) is left except when the button turns yellow/red.
one detail u forgot to mention. by the time he gets his brand new mvp cheap from ft like i did, 2-3 weeks will have gone by. I bet by then he'll have a provari already setup and ready to go.
so yeah if u want a powerbank that vapes as well as a simplistic VV device (eGo) then get an mvp from fasttech for the "neato" value.
If you want a provari and mony is no object, buy a brand spankin new one at provape. If you want a provari and want to save a little money, buy a Blem provari (clearence section of provape). If you want the most inexpensive provari then get a used one from the classys. All three options give you a fully functional trustworthy device with the same customer support/repairs from provape.
Why would anyone order juice from honk kong or wherever ft is? Seriously? Rule of thumb, never buy juice from the same place you buy your hardware. order ur juice from places who's sole purpose in life is to make juice..
ETA: here are some of my non-provari's (mvp, svd, eroll) and i wouldn't trade a provari for any of them, or all of them for that matter..
RHP
- I did in fact mention that it COULD take about 2 weeks. However, mine was in my mailbox in 8 days. It can go either way. It's rare, but I've even heard of a couple examples of it taking almost a month, but those included customs issues and that doesn't happen very often.
- I realize you can't get a readout on resistance from an MVP, but after vaping for some time I have come to realize this is completely unnecessary for a beginner wanting to test the waters. You can check a device and then set your battery for the recommended voltage, but then you end up turning it up until it tastes right anyway. On a Provari, I might look at the resistance of a device out of curiosity... but then I set it at 3.6 volts and start turning it up .1 or .2 volts at a time until it tastes right so until someone starts re-coiling their own heads (at which point you really should have a VO meter anyway), knowing the resistance is a complete novelty feature just like the puff counter on an MVP.
- I don't know anyone who can vape an MVP dead in a day, not even close. A battery voltage indicator is not necessary. Put it on the charger at the end of the day and it will never be dead when you are using it. The light goes yellow when you only have a couple hundred puffs left. Not sure what else someone would need to be frank about it.
- Liqua (Which is what I recommended) is a reputable brand name of liquid. Blanket statements like "never buy liquid from the same vendor" are what make little sense to me. I try to make recommendations to new people that are reasonable and make sense. MANY e-liquids that are "made in the USA" are purchased by the gallon jug from Chinese vendors and then placed in small bottles and marked up an astronomical amount; the consumer never knows in most cases. Yes, there are exceptions... Johnson Creek is a popular one that come to mind. That being said, I wouldn't consider it unreasonable at all for someone to be hesitant about buying liquids direct from China. That's a personal choice to make, but again... that is why I recommended Liqua brand as something to try out. Liqua is of a high enough quality that some companies are selling fake Liqua branded products (FastTech sells genuine Liqua). People don't clone products without reason, they do it because the product has a good reputation among consumers. Honestly, my favorite vendor liquid was always RY4 from Apollo, right here in the USA. But I must admit, I really don't know where the heck it came from, but I consumed it anyway. If we were 100% honest, we would state that only DIY folks like myself know exactly where their liquids come from. Even then, I mostly don't know the origins of the ingredients I buy.
- For the record: I have had more problems with my perfectly made, USA originated, nothing compares or will work for you Provari than I have any of my other Mods. In fact, I am having to ship my Mini back for the second time in 4 weeks because the famous "military grade" circuitry has failed again. Point being, they aren't perfect and are prone to issues just like any other device, just maybe at a lower frequency.
- Although Provape has great customer service, I've gotten better AND faster service buying a Chinese ZMax from Varitube. I could rant for a while about how good Varitube has treated me( not to mean that there is anything at all wrong with customer service at Provape).
- I didn't recommend and MVP because it was "neato" and could charge an ipod, that's was an "oh yea, also" point and it's actually handy as you might know. I recommended it because he is new and he might (like many people do) decide after a week that he absolutely hates vaping and will be stuck with a 200 dollar paperweight, an expensive charger and a bunch of expensive IMR batteries. I also recommended it because it puts off vapor every single bit as good as my Provari's and will not fail to impress a beginner. All that said, it's not necessarily assumed to be a backup. I actually prefer the MVP to the Provari I've owned for 10 months. All that is nothing more than subjective personal opinion. My humble admission is that my 45 dollar MVP works just as well as the Provari that cost me 200... and I like it better. That is not subjective or opinion, it is a fact.
I completely understand how someone can be a Provari fan. Even though I've had problems with mine, I also understand that is a rare exception. The MVP is also a very high quality device, feels very good in the hand, puts out a lot of power and will deliver vapor every bit as good as a Provari will. It is far from simply an Ego in a square box. I think it is our responsibility to relay not just accurate, but complete information to others, most especially new vapers, and be honest about what is fact and what is simply our opinion. I've had a Provari for 10 months. It was my first device based on what folks like you said. THEN I discovered on my own that there were quite a few devices out there that perform every bit as well and almost every single one of them cost a LOT less money (and that doesn't always equate to cheap). I wish people had pointed this out to me when I was starting. It's our responsibility to tell the whole truth; and that is that the Provari isn't some unmatched or magical device that will make their vaping experience second to none, that simply is not true. There are lots of devices out there that can do the same job. Some of them are junk, most of them are not. The MVP is one of the high quality devices that will serve anyone well... for 45 bucks.
mvp reminds me of an ego in a box form that also has the ability to be used as a powerbank (charging phones, ipads, mp3 pls) than a provari (or a backup for a provari). it cant check ohms or let u know how much juice (power) is left except when the button turns yellow/red.
one detail u forgot to mention. by the time he gets his brand new mvp cheap from ft like i did, 2-3 weeks will have gone by. I bet by then he'll have a provari already setup and ready to go.
so yeah if u want a powerbank that vapes as well as a simplistic VV device (eGo) then get an mvp from fasttech for the "neato" value.
If you want a provari and mony is no object, buy a brand spankin new one at provape. If you want a provari and want to save a little money, buy a Blem provari (clearence section of provape). If you want the most inexpensive provari then get a used one from the classys. All three options give you a fully functional trustworthy device with the same customer support/repairs from provape.
Why would anyone order juice from honk kong or wherever ft is? Seriously? Rule of thumb, never buy juice from the same place you buy your hardware. order ur juice from places who's sole purpose in life is to make juice..
ETA: here are some of my non-provari's (mvp, svd, eroll) and i wouldn't trade a provari for any of them, or all of them for that matter..
RHP
I would never buy an APV without an Ohm meter. The argument that you don't need an Ohm meter is silly. Since practically every device on the market above a Twist/Spinner does have an Ohm meter, the near lone exception being the MVP (of all the current popular models), clearly the market has spoken and you do need an Ohm meter. The fact that the MVP 2 will have an Ohm meter just shows that Innokin knows it as well. I can vape with an MVP. Love the way it feels in the hand, and the battery life is great. However, an internal battery is eventually going to fail and is not currently replaceable, rendering, at some point, the MVP an expensive paper weight. Love the usb micro charger. I would much rather have a couple of iTaste 3.0's for the price of the MPV. Innokin put variable wattage and Ohm meters in these devices. For this exact same reason, the 134 won't reach it's full potential. No Ohm meter, no battery check (ok colored lights), no display, $100+. Why is the Vamo by far the most popular entry level APV? It has all of these features. The MVP is a lot more than a Twist/Spinner, but not by a long shot.
I got my Porvari Friday if I would have gotten one months ago I would have saved money on a lot of ego batterys
Watts = how much of the amps guy has gotten passed the resistance
I love That LMAO!!!!
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