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the provari has a 1 year warranty...

Correct.

And option to purchase a second year extension if you desire one at time of purchase.

Lifetime warranty? No. Lifetime support? Yes. You can get a Provari serviced for very reasonable fees after warranty for as long as you own the mod. Typical repair turnaround time is 1 week from being sent into Provape and back to your home.

Post-Warranty Standard Service Repair Costs

Replace Window and screws- $10.00
Replace Circuit Board - $65.00
Upgrade to V2 - $20.00
Replace plastic pushbutton - $5.00
Repairs to the circuit board - $25.00
Cleaning - $20.00
Replace top cap - $15.00
Broken Cartomizer Service - $10.00
Return shipping within the USA - $5.00

Try getting that type of customer support with any Chinese made mod. As a matter of fact, try getting that from ANY manufacturer other than Provape regardless of where its from.
 
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because, frankly, the provari is outdated. And this isn't some hate coming from someone who never tried one. I owned one for 1.5 years. And I sold it off, got myself a zmax, which is, outside build quality aside, a much better device. VW is amazing, battery life is near twice as long, it requires less maintenance to keep running properly (I had to clean my contacts on my provari weekly or it would stop firing once the battery dropped below 3.7 volt. I have never cleaned the contacts in my zmax)

Outdated? I presume because it lacks VW? No, they are frequently resold because they resell at 90% of their original cost, and there is a substantial demand for even used ProVari. How many zmax units are resold anything close to their original purchase price? None.

VW. Well, if you want it, the ProVari is certainly not for you.

The best thing about the provari is the solid outside shell. But look inside, the circuit board is barely mounted. It is as prone to damage from drops as any Chinese VV/VW mod.
now with the dna 20 and kick out there, all the quality clones, and china stepping their build quality game up, the provari needs to catch up

This assertion is laughable. Nobody, not even the biggest haters of ProVari, would argue that their build quality is an issue. Everything about its construction is first rate. From the 510 connection and press fitting that holds the top cap on (easy to repair with a 2X4 and a hammer, I have a blog on this) to the end cap, it is built with pride and built to last. No other mod would suggest such a repair, nor would the mod survive it. I have heard a dozen stories of it being dropped from heights of over 10', run over by cars and trucks, dropped into a river, etc. and the ProVari works just fine after drying or whatever. In all of the stories I have heard, only a lawnmower blade was able to render a ProVari inoperable...

btw, the warranty is no reason to buy a provari. You can get a 3 year warranty on a zmax that includes accidental damage for $17.99. and if you ask, square trade will give you 35% off bringing it to $11.70

The service you get as an owner for life is far more enticing to me than warranty. The ProVari comes with one year warranty with the purchase. Do they have a proven record of service with 99% plus customer satisfaction? No, they do not. Good luck getting that service agreement honored, I know ProVape is a proven company that will stand behind the device.

That doesn't even address my favorite part about the ProVari. Accurate voltage from the first to the last puff of the device that is within 1/2% of what you set it to. Every time. No 33 Hz mod can come close to it.

Sorry, but in my mind, accurate voltage will never get outdated. Dependable, accurate, reliable, backed by the gold standard of service in the industry...ProVari.


EDIT:

From Segelei website:

Warranty and Guarantee:
12 months

Improper operation will void the warranty.
Do not drop Zmax

Link:
http://www.sigelei.com/goods.php?id=258

Got that? Don't drop it, or the warranty is void! Has anyone had a mod for a year and not dropped it once? HA! I drop my ProVarii all the time, and I don't even think about it. I know when I pick it up, it will be just fine. ProVape will fix it for me even in the 1 in a million chance that it is not. That is the sort of peace of mind that comes with ProVari ownership.

Dropping a mod voids the warranty...what a joke.

EDIT II:

Also from the website....

03 NOTES:
1. Clean the thread after using in case of rusting and corrosion.
2. Do not reverse the battery in the tube.
3. Remember to turn off Zmax when not using.
4. Do not use the protected batteries.
5. Had better not put Zmax in your pocket. A hanger is recommended.

Hmmm, looks like they have maintenance requirements there to me. I guess there is only one thread to clean, at least. LOL.

Also, don't carry it in your pocket? What, it cannot take the abuse of being transported in your pocket? LOL (part II) I carry my ProVari in my pockets all the time...I don't worry about that, either.
 
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Everyone is selling their ProVaris, because there's so much excitement about the green/blue version you can buy tomorrow!!
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It's cause they got a new one for Christmas.
Or they realized they have 4, and need $ back to buy juice.
They do sell. Same day. For 80% of list price or more. Wish I could do that with my cars.
 

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because, frankly, the provari is outdated. And this isn't some hate coming from someone who never tried one. I owned one for 1.5 years. And I sold it off, got myself a zmax, which is, outside build quality aside, a much better device. VW is amazing, battery life is near twice as long, it requires less maintenance to keep running properly (I had to clean my contacts on my provari weekly or it would stop firing once the battery dropped below 3.7 volt. I have never cleaned the contacts in my zmax)
The best thing about the provari is the solid outside shell. But look inside, the circuit board is barely mounted. It is as prone to damage from drops as any Chinese VV/VW mod.
now with the dna 20 and kick out there, all the quality clones, and china stepping their build quality game up, the provari needs to catch up

btw, the warranty is no reason to buy a provari. You can get a 3 year warranty on a zmax that includes accidental damage for $17.99. and if you ask, square trade will give you 35% off bringing it to $11.70
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I have yet to buy a provari, but I will one day within the next year. I always have to at least try whatever is considered the best, in anything I am actively interested in. That said, the resale value makes giving one a try a no brainer.. imo.
Don't put it off too long, or you'll hate yourself for it. :D
 

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I should have explained Do and Don't I meant tanks, cartos etc
The ProVari uses a 510 connection. If you want to use eGo threaded stuff on it, buy the eGo adapter from ProVape. They make them themselves out of stainless steel, and are the only ones that are not garbage. Don't try to run sob oHm builds; it won't work.

The ProVari's internal circuitry will keep you from hurting yourself or your ProVari. Throw whatever you want on top. The only time you might run into trouble is if you put an atomizer on it that seals off the top of the ProVari and draws airflow from the bottom. If that rare occurrence happens you will need to get an airflow adapter to use with that atty.

Don't leave your ProVari unattended in public places.

That's all the advice I can give you regarding toppers.

Edit: I guess I can throw in some Do's as well. Most people go for setups that look good on a ProVari, and/or work well. Cartotanks, ProTanks, and (if you are into rebuildables) the Kayfun/Russian 91% setups.
You'll want to get pro rings/beauty rings for your ProVari if you run a Kayfun setup. It will keep the ProVari looking nice and sleek.

A word of warning: You will probably end up spending enough money on accessories for the ProVari, to buy a second ProVari. They are completely unnecessary additions. You will buy them anyways. :D
 
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Mine is still working fine despite being dropped on concrete floors too many times. It barely shows any scratches (you have to look REALLY close to see any at all). It's still under the two year extended warranty, but hasn't required any vendor attention yet. It gives me a smooth fizz if I listen to the atomizer (as opposed to the rattlesnake sound of my Sigelei Zmax V3, which I also like.

I think people sell their old one to buy a new one or sell their second one to buy another mod with VW. I bought the Segelei as a backup. I vaped it for a while and liked it and I still fire it up here and there for a change. I always come back to the Provari because it fits in my pocket well and provides a slightly better and more consistent vape.

There are some great Chinese mods available these days. I don't know why Provape hasn't produced a VV/VW model yet. Go figure. That's what everyone wants. When that happens, the after market offers may just rise a little more.
 

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I hope they come out with VV/VW ProVari's. I pray for it. When it happens, the resale price of current gen V1, V2, and V2.5 will probably go down a lot and I can pick and choose at theft prices from the classifieds.

Make it happen ProVape! I need about ten more ProVari's. :D

...and yeah, I know that's a pipe dream. The price of a used ProVari might drop another $10 if VW happened. :p
 

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I don't see Provape NOT producing a variable voltage/wattage model in the future. When really good sales start on the current crop, watch out for an announcement for the VV/VW models to follow.

With all the VW models appearing on the Chinese market, I don't see how Provape could resist joining in the popularity contest for variability.
 

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I don't see Provape NOT producing a variable voltage/wattage model in the future. When really good sales start on the current crop, watch out for an announcement for the VV/VW models to follow.

With all the VW models appearing on the Chinese market, I don't see how Provape could resist joining in the popularity contest for variability.

Why would Provari NEED to join a popularity contest?

I just got a ZMax Mini... pretty nice, and I'm impressed!

But if I had to choose between 1 Provari and FIVE Zmax, I'd take the Provari. For one thing, I just used the Provari to check the Atomizer ohm and the Battery volts remaining for my ZMax. Yes, the Zmax has those functions, but the Provari is more reliable. And I KNOW the button on the Provari can take that many clicks. 5 minutes out of the box, I don't believe I can push that zmax button as many times as I push the Provari button. I can't even imagine vaping without a Provari actually, I'd be smoking again in 1 day.

Also, I just put the 1.1 ohm Kayfun build from my Provari to the Zmax... and it won't even fire it, it errors with a "Low Load" message. Fires and vapes just fine on my Provari... as high as 4.1 volts. On the Zmax, it won't fire the 1.1 Kayfun at 3.0 volts.

What exactly are people comparing the Provari to anyway? Because I thought the objection was PRICE? If that's not the case, go buy a new $420 DNA20 mod, and leave us frugal people alone:).

**edited to apologize for my tone, but I wasn't directing it at you DaveP... just the general "Provari isn't worth the $$" we hear all the time:p.
 
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I hope they come out with VV/VW ProVari's. I pray for it. When it happens, the resale price of current gen V1, V2, and V2.5 will probably go down a lot and I can pick and choose at theft prices from the classifieds.

Make it happen ProVape! I need about ten more ProVari's. :D

...and yeah, I know that's a pipe dream. The price of a used ProVari might drop another $10 if VW happened. :p

Uh... I think the opposite would happen... EVERYONE would miss their reliable old VV and the aftermarket would go through the roof like some treasured Ming vase or something. But I'd think Provari would go right back to making the VV.... at a much inflated price when they figure out how many people want it. Or someone else would step in to make the 'old' VV Provari. I can't imagine that demand will EVER go away as long as vaping exists.

That's like no longer making tape measures because 'everyone' has a digital/laser tape measure. Why would anyone do that?
 

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Uh... I think the opposite would happen... EVERYONE would miss their reliable old VV and the aftermarket would go through the roof like some treasured Ming vase or something. But I'd think Provari would go right back to making the VV.... at a much inflated price when they figure out how many people want it. Or someone else would step in to make the 'old' VV Provari. I can't imagine that demand will EVER go away as long as vaping exists.

That's like no longer making tape measures because 'everyone' has a digital/laser tape measure. Why would anyone do that?
I can see your point. I pulled out my fancy expensive digital micrometer the other day and the battery was dead. Useless. Dug around in my "sundries" drawer for an old brass German pocket micrometer I kept for nostalgia. To my (not so complete) amazement...it worked.
 
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