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That sounds like something I'd like to know. Where do you get prorings, please?
EDIT: I found the thread. So much to learn...
Guess how many people are happy with carto tanks. Then guess how many people are happy with vivi novas. Then guess how many people are happy with Reos. Then guess how many people are happy with bottom coil clearomizers. Then guess how many people are happy with rebuildables on their regulated mods. Thennnn guess how many people refuse to use anything but hybrids and genesis devices. Personality, experience, exposure. When so much in vaping exists, there is so much to try. When you blow out of plume from a carto tank, a vivi nova, a kanger T3, are you satisfied with the amount of vapor you see in front of you? At home? Out in front of friends? Some people want to see the absolute MOST vapor they can possibly see, some people are happy replicating smoke from a cigarette, right? There are people here that are happy to not be smoking, and there are people here that have passed that out and they are now hobbying. There are people that crave this, or need that. People that like the status symbol, people that want to appease their inner collector. The MAJORITY of vapers are vaping LR premade coils at 3.7 and 4.2 volts and they are perfectly happy with that. To optimize everything about vaping, those people who have been at this for years, who crave bigger plumes and better throat hit, are prefering the unregulated mechanical mods at "super low" ohms. This is epecially true because there are more high quality (and collectable) mechanical mods coming out right now than there are luxurious quality high wattage regulated mods. But, even the reviewers of e-cigs still say they enjoy using everything from 300 dollar hybrids to the new Innokin SVD with their new I-clearos. SO, there is just a lot of diversity in vaping and people like the full spectrum and full experiences in whats available. Not to forget that buying these things strokes the eGo for a split second.
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That sounds like something I'd like to know. Where do you get prorings, please?
EDIT: I found the thread. So much to learn...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/euro-suppliers/360395-atmistique-mods-accessories-more.html You might want to check this out as well. The Hippo is more for people who use cartos and everything else (that can use adjustable air control).
Not to say it won't work with an RBA, but it won't offer any special benefit either, aside from the cosmetic appeal of a flat cap.
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Not necessarily...
Think of in these terms...
If you want to build an electrical circuit it won't take long before you discover that you need to include a resistor or few... So you decide to go shopping for resistors.
You get to the electronics store or website and you discover that resistors, in addition to having a stated resistance, have wattage rating. The teeny tiny resistors may be 1/8 watt the big beefy ones that look like bricks with two wires may be several watts...
Bear in mind that the teeny tiny resistor and the big beefy resistor offer the same resistance. They just have very different wattage ratings.
So what the hell does the wattage rating have to do with anything??? Well... It tells you how much power can flow through the resistor before it heats up to a point of possible failure. The big resistor can take on a LOT more power before before it begins to heat up.
So... How the hell does that translate to e cig atomizers??? Well, that's easy. An atomizer is a resistor. It's a resistor that we WANT to get hot.
So back to the teeny tiny/big bulky resistor analogy... The thin 34 to 36 awg wire that's in your cartos would be the teeny tiny resistor. The ultra thick 28 & 26 awg wire that folks are using in their RBAs is the big beefy resistor.
It takes A LOT more power (watts) to heat 28awg wire than it does to heat 34 awg wire, for a given resistance. Since a mechanical device can't control the voltage it has to rely on amperage to heat the thick wire coils.
If you'd like to test for yourself, go get two new carto... Both of the same resistance (ohms)... One should be a single coil and the other a dualcoil... Fill them both...
Now bear in mind that a dual (lets say 2 ohms) is actually 2 4 ohm coils being run in parallel. So the dual coil will have 4x the wire as the single coil and therefore 4x the "wattage rating"... (note... multiple thin wires is no different than a single thick wire)
Start with the single coil and dial in the voltage to a point where you .... it. Now trade it out for the dual coil (without making any adjustments) and give it a vape...
So... Odds are, the great vape you're getting from your "thin wire" cartos isn't too far off from the great vape others are getting from 28awg in an RBA... You're just using a lot less power in the process.
I tried it , beyond the massive plumes of vapor i saw nothing special in it. really.
then my OCD kicked in and i find myself taking out and metering my batteries every half hour to make sure i dont over drain them.
so i made myself try it without worrying about it i got massive vapor for a few drags, then the battery settled in and things were ok for a while, then slowly i watched as each drag became just a bit less vapor every time i took a hit.
so i see massive vapor and changing batteries more often,personally i dont change juices alot or do crazy flavors so the benefit of this may have been lost to me as my vapor didnt taste any different. there was just more of it and bigger clouds are something im not impressed with for a while now.
but im the last person to put something down if everyone else likes it.
i prefer a nice thick consistent vape for 12 hours, and every fluctuation in the vapor on a mod had me pulling the top off the atty.
on a side note i find the limited useability and other features i dont care for on the zap the main reason i dont use mine.
i think my DID and cobra kick it compared to the zaps wide open draw.
as for the classies i think many people buy it from the hype and pedigree and just dont like it.
then my OCD kicked in and i find myself taking out and metering my batteries every half hour to make sure i dont over drain them.
so i made myself try it without worrying about it i got massive vapor for a few drags, then the battery settled in and things were ok for a while, then slowly i watched as each drag became just a bit less vapor every time i took a hit.
so i see massive vapor and changing batteries more often,personally i dont change juices alot or do crazy flavors so the benefit of this may have been lost to me as my vapor didnt taste any different. there was just more of it and bigger clouds are something im not impressed with for a while now.
but im the last person to put something down if everyone else likes it.
i prefer a nice thick consistent vape for 12 hours, and every fluctuation in the vapor on a mod had me pulling the top off the atty.
on a side note i find the limited useability and other features i dont care for on the zap the main reason i dont use mine.
i think my DID and cobra kick it compared to the zaps wide open draw.
as for the classies i think many people buy it from the hype and pedigree and just dont like it.
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I tried a mech/rba, it was ok. Switched to my ProZAP and with a 2Ω coil at 5.2v I'm getting 13.5w. Plenty good for me, blowing vapor just as dense and tastes just as good. And batteries last 2x as long. And don't have to fiddle with a kick that only goes to 10w if I want to keep it consistent through the whole battery.
I think the whole mech/rba is overrated and a lot of obsession with them is ocd, push 20 watts just because you can. When in reality it isn't needed.
I think the whole mech/rba is overrated and a lot of obsession with them is ocd, push 20 watts just because you can. When in reality it isn't needed.
Whatever floats one's boat. Another marvelous aspect of vaping is that there's something in it for everybody. We can find what we like and simply run with it. And apparently, as a community, we are doing exactly that.
Now let's (USA folks) just hope that (darn) Uncle Sam of ours keeps his dirty, stinkin' mitts out of our business.
Build it, fill it, tip it or drip it; what-EVER you prefer. The world is your cartomizer - so enjoy it while it lasts.
Now let's (USA folks) just hope that (darn) Uncle Sam of ours keeps his dirty, stinkin' mitts out of our business.
Build it, fill it, tip it or drip it; what-EVER you prefer. The world is your cartomizer - so enjoy it while it lasts.
I dont think anyone truly believes its needed to vape...
But like a junkie can never get enough, some hobbyists,
will refuse to vape at a lower wattage once they try X watts.
To vape, all you need is a 2 ohm coil and 3.7 volts. that pretty much replicates a cigarette.
If its not satisfying your throat, you up your nicotine. If its not enough vapor, you up your VG.
Back in the day, the majority were perfectly happy with regular resistance at 3.7v
But like a junkie can never get enough, some hobbyists,
will refuse to vape at a lower wattage once they try X watts.
To vape, all you need is a 2 ohm coil and 3.7 volts. that pretty much replicates a cigarette.
If its not satisfying your throat, you up your nicotine. If its not enough vapor, you up your VG.
Back in the day, the majority were perfectly happy with regular resistance at 3.7v
It is not just stronger it is BETTER. I am all about saving money too. Yes I have some high end stuff but a chee with aga works great at 1 ohm. I dont care what anyone says. When I can vape at 8mg and have a better flavor you bet I will. Btw nic is a very powerful vasoconstrictor.we should all try to lighten the load as time goes by.
"Better" is simply a matter of personal preference. As for cutting back on the Nic... I couldn't agree more. Just bear in mind that cutting the Nic concentration of your juice in half does nothing for you if your consuming twice as much juice...
As for vaping a 1 ohm coil on a mechanical... I'm sure it is great... But I don't imagine everyone is going to enjoy starting their vape at 17.6 watts (4.2v fresh battery) and riding it down to 10.9 watts (3.3v dead battery).
Of course, the numbers above reflect a "perfect circuit" with no additional resistance from the device, mechanical connectors or the internal resistance of the battery itself. In reality, the numbers at both ends would be lower at both ends would be lower that what I stated above.
I like using all of them. Each of my mods provides a different experience depending on what I put on them. I love them all.
Please don't take what I said above as me putting down mechanical devices or the people who prefer them. My point I was trying to make is that there can be multiple paths that lead to the same destination... "Your own personal, perfect vape".
You'll notice that I never stated that regulated vaping is "better" than mechanical... But I suppose I did make a pretty one sided argument...
The fact is that both types of vaping have their pros and cons... It simply boils down to personal preference... Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't
I 100% agree with what MaDeuce just said...
You'll notice that I never stated that regulated vaping is "better" than mechanical... But I suppose I did make a pretty one sided argument...
The fact is that both types of vaping have their pros and cons... It simply boils down to personal preference... Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't
I 100% agree with what MaDeuce just said...
I love my AGA-T RBA and Phoenix. Night and day different between RBA and carto. But I love my carto too, they go onto ego twist, it's much more portable than APVs with RBA.
I'm just now beginning to finally master the mesh rbas. I've got way too much tied up in provaris and highend rbas to start experimenting with slr and mech right now. My sweet spot is 1.3ohms on the zap and did at 3.7v. My provari/zap is perfect for me. I am curious though and would like to try one in person but I'm also afraid I'd like it too much and I just can't buy anything else any time soon!
When I got my first taste of a mesh rba I went crazy buying 3 highends. I actually dreamed I was wrapping coils the other night! I used to have a life before rbas lol. I think I'll stick with what I've got for the time being.
I too wondered about all the classy sales. I think that maybe the zap is a little too accessible now.
When I got my first taste of a mesh rba I went crazy buying 3 highends. I actually dreamed I was wrapping coils the other night! I used to have a life before rbas lol. I think I'll stick with what I've got for the time being.
I too wondered about all the classy sales. I think that maybe the zap is a little too accessible now.
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I had a Provari and other VV devices , and they are great devices in their own right. I discovered LR vaping and tried a mech mod and to me at least it was a world of difference...much better flavor, more vape...since then all I have now are mech mods and that is all I will buy, I just love them and am obsessed with them
I've tried them both, EA mod both kicked and not with a ZAU with coils from 0.8Ω - 1.1Ω, and in the end I prefer my Provari/ZAP at ~1.3Ω and 4.4v, puts me under the 3.5 amp limit and pushing 14.8 watts. Just as good vtf as a mech to me and a lot more protection than just the battery.
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