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jwbnyc

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Dear Concerned Citizen,

Thank you for taking the time to contact me regarding the ban I have ordered on flavored nicotine vaping products. I truly appreciate hearing from Michiganders from across the state and the opportunity to respond.

On Wednesday, September 11, the Trump administration announced that they were following in Michigan's footsteps to ban flavored e-cigarettes. I'm glad this administration is doing the right thing to protect our kids and our overall public health. This is a bold step that will keep our kids healthy and safe from the harmful effects of vaping. I'm proud that Michigan has been a leader on this issue, and I'm ready to continue working to protect our kids and our public health.

State agencies may develop and implement emergency rules whenever there is an emergency that endangers public health, safety, or welfare. (MCL 24.248.) After Michigan's Chief Medical Executive Dr. Joneigh Khaldun, confirmed that youth vaping constitutes a public health emergency, I ordered the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services (MDHHS) to issue emergency rules to ban the sale of flavored nicotine vaping products in retail stores and online and ban misleading marketing of vaping products, including the use of terms like "clean," "safe," and "healthy" that perpetuate beliefs that these products are harmless. I have also ordered the Michigan Department of Transportation to enforce an existing statute to prohibit the advertisement of vapor products on billboards. These bold steps will finally put an end to these irresponsible and deceptive practices and protect Michiganders' public health.

We have seen an explosive increase in the number of Michigan kids exposed to vaping products. From 2017 to 2018, e-cigarette use spiked 78% among high school students and 48% among middle school students. These products can contain harmful chemicals that put our kids' health at risk. As governor and a parent, my number one priority is keeping our kids safe. Right now, companies are selling vaping products that use candy flavors to hook children on nicotine and using misleading claims to promote the belief that these products are safe. Nearly 90% of smokers start using nicotine before the age of 18 and 81% of youth e-cigarette users start with a flavored product. This makes the substantial surge of youth using flavored nicotine vape products a preventable public health crisis.

MDHHS will be taking a number of actions to make sure people understand how to comply. There is a website with additional information, which you can find at www.michigan.gov/ecigarettes <MDHHS e-cigarette Information> . Also, the MDHHS tobacco section has created a retailers' packet that includes FAQ's about compliance with the emergency rules. Along with local health departments, they plan to conduct regional meetings with retailers to answer questions about the emergency rules.

In June of this year, I made it known that recent legislation put forth by the legislature did not go far enough to protect Michigan's kids from nicotine addiction. I was clear that the marketing, packaging, and taste of e-cigarettes amounted to a bait-and-switch engineered to create new nicotine addicts. Our kids deserve leaders who are going to fight to protect them, and it's my responsibility to ensure that these dangerous marketing tactics are put to an end.

Again, thank you for taking the time to write. On January 1, 2019, I took an oath to serve the state of Michigan, and I am committed to building bridges from state government to real Michiganders. Please do not hesitate to contact my office at (517) 335-7858, should you have any questions or concerns.

Sincerely,
Gretchen Whitmer
Governor of Michigan
(517) 335-7858


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DPLongo22

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all of which I forgot I even had

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stols001

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Somehow, Michigan was not high on my list of places to go, let alone Detroit.

To be fair, I guess a lot of folks feel that way about Baltimore, heck, even I probably would not choose to go back, etc.

I also have no desire to visit Arkansas either. We drove very briefly through Iowa on our honeymoon. It was taxing. Internet was not a thing then. We listened to a program on mosquito larvae and it was rather edifying. Did you know that larvae can survive 3-5 years of DROUGHT?

I know everything has its purpose and everything but like, I often wonder what would happen if mosquitos went extinct and I am SORT OF willing to find out.

Did you know there is a ski slope in Iowa? Yeah, me neither. It looked SHORT.

Ooops what I meant to say (Hi @Bronze !) was that I, too have a Lost Vape. Well no, not a Lost Vape in that sense (I do have 2 mirages, and like, I am SO glad I replaced them with three ML Class vapes, they are The Greatest, so STURDY) but I have lost a setup. A rather beloved setup. It's here in this house-- somewhere, and I have been looking but so far, no luck.

This has not happened to me in 3 plus years of vaping? I can't decide if it's a sign I have too many setups or perhaps you know, early onset Alzheimer's.

I kind of wish I had lost it at work, man, that is a lot less acreage to plough, as it were. Plus, my vapes never leave my purse while on premises.

Anna
 

stols001

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Yeah, I don't remember learning to walk.

I do remember learning to bike, though. My parents taught my older brother to bike by putting him on one then shoving him down a hill. A hill with TREES on it. By the bottom he could ride a bike

They took me too that same hill, and tried to do the same thing. I think by the bottom like, I needed a trip to the pediatrician and some "anti PTSD" pills (which I did not get.)

They did the same think skiing but like snow is a lot softer. It wasn't quite as traumatizing.

Oddly enough I turned into SUPER biker I would bike hundreds of miles in a week. I had way to MUCH energy back then. I wish I had it back. I am doing yoga today. I am also calling my doc and going to tell her I want an endocrinologist referral. I remember feeling freaking normal like I wasn't going to pass OUT all the time. I'm done with this Synthroid crud. It's like.... It's like what I imagine Walter White's stuff to the stuff out here by me which is of extremely poor quality and no one should ever consume.

I mean, they do consume it, but they like, don't want to.

THIS IS WHAT I DON'T GET. So, my thyroid was suppressed and there is (APPARENTLY not everyone believes it) a SLIGHT possibility that I might get a touch of osteoporosis (I am NEVER getting osteoporosis I am STURDY man) or that I might have a heart attack or something. Like really small chance, way in the future.

Why am *I* not allowed to go, "Okay, I will take that chance, thank you very much." I mean it's MY being. I'd rather be like NORMAL now, and then if I have a heart attack in the future well, we'll.... SEE what happens. My mom used to always cheer me up when I was like having fears that I would wind up untreated, homeless, and pushing a shopping cart full of cats around (EVERY seriously mentally ill person has that fear, BTW) in my old age after the husband is like gone, she would say, "Oh honey, your siblings love you, your son loves you, they wouldn't let that happen."

It used to be vaguely comforting, only based on my sibling and family behavior, as far as I'm concerned, none of them would NOTICE. So a heart attack might mean an insurance pay out for the kid instead of a horrible BURDEN.

Yeah, I can get natural thyroid hormone it's not even a real drug. You can get it many places. It's not even a crime.

Maybe I just need to like, find a new doc, not let them have records and stay away from the whole TSH test which is fairly MEANINGLESS.

Yes, I could go see some super specialist who BELIEVES in natural thyroid and like, get him to run a billion tests out of pocket that prove I am fine... OR, I could just take my meds and never mention my thyroid to a medical professional AGAIN.

Tempting. I could also, of course, just get my pdoc to prescribe it to me because he's like "all that matters is that your T4 is not too high" and mine is actually LOW.

Biking down that hill was a LOT more hazardous, let me tell you.

Anna
 

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