ProVarinati Diner & Saloon and Beyond

[Hobbs]

I just noticed your 2.5 has the P3 conversion, was it done by Zen? If so, and you can see an oring sandwiched between the board and top cap, you should be good to go with that end cap Zen and I did a trade, and the gold mini he sent my way had a P3 end cap installed on it, he explained to me why that was OK...

Awesome ENAUD !!! Thanks for the heads up. I'll have to check it out. I selected the P3 conversion top as an option when I ordered the 2.5 from ProVape. Probably done there. It shipped from there. But who knows ya know.

EDIT: I see regular 2.5 glue at the top of the board and touching the P3 conversion cap. I can't discern an o-ring and there's not one passing through the glue that I can tell. But the board is glued in there dang good. No harm done.

 

[ENAUD]

Awesome ENAUD !!! Thanks for the heads up. I'll have to check it out. I selected the P3 conversion top as an option when I ordered the 2.5 from ProVape. Probably done there. It shipped from there. But who knows ya know.

Then yours is glued in just like the rest...Mike changed things up a bit when he started palying around with the conversions, I would treat that one like any other 2.5...small springs only.

 

[ENAUD]

@Hobbs, yeah, Mike Morgan, AKA Zen, at House of Hybrids got authorization to do the conversions from ProVape before they were offering this as an add on. Shortly after they gave him the OK and he started doing this service, ProVape started offering it as an option as they were beginning to dump product at greatly reduced prices...the rest is history. Zens early conversions he used the glue dots, then he came upon the idea of sandwiching an oring in there to hold the board in place, the friction fit of the top cap holds the whole assembly together. If'n I ever get around to needing to swap boards into a favorite tube, like say, my mini Ti, I'll probaby figure out what size oring will do the trick and go that route with reassembly. Hope it never comes to that, but I have formulated a plan just in case

 

[Hobbs]

Great history and knowledge to know. Thank you for sharing ENAUD. I once emailed Mike about purchasing one of his tools (two plates with the threaded rods) I saw him do a vid on last year, wherein he removed the top cap of a 2.5 ... of course he never answered my email on that one LOL.

This is the worker bee end cap that lives on that 2.5 and is back on there now. I like the way it looks on the 2.5 too. The 4 directions kind of compliment the planet looking (to me) lines in the 2.5. I can live with it

 

[ENAUD]

Great history and knowledge to know. Thank you for sharing ENAUD. I once emailed Mike about purchasing one of his tools (two plates with the threaded rods) I saw him do a vid on last year, wherein he removed the top cap of a 2.5 ... of course he never answered my email on that one LOL.

This is the worker bee end cap that lives on that 2.5 and is back on there now. I like the way it looks on the 2.5 too. The 4 directions kind of compliment the planet looking (to me) lines in the 2.5. I can live with it

I do very much like the compase point end caps the pirate ones aren't too shabby either. I worked out that some threaded rod, a few nuts and washers, some aircraft grade birch plywood, and a SS ego/510 ProVari adaptor could be cobbled together to replicate mikes dissasembly device, if'n you follow my drift, you too could probably cobble one together oh, almost forgot, one of them flared bases so you can stand up your Provari without tipping it easily would also help, or just bolting an end cap to one of the pieces of plywood. In theory, it should work as smooth as silk...yet to test my theory, but have pent some time pondering the endeavor. I do have one dead 2.5 to play with now though, time and interest permitting...

 

[Hobbs]

Before a 20 year military career in which I repaired electronics down to the component level, I was a draftsman for a couple of years, and then a machinist (worked up to supervisor) for almost 10 years. I just couldn't be stuck inside day in and day out, had itchy feet and wanted to see the world. I could cobble something together. Don't think it will ever come to that though. I've made pretty sure it wouldn't LOL. But the whole time I was cobbling, I'd be wishing I still had access to the equipment I once did for sure. Heck, I even went so far as to scourer the Internet to find P3 thread specs in hopes of finding something off the shelf to make a jig like Mike has. No need to now I guess DOH !!! Even if the ProVape glue becomes brittle and falls apart, that board isn't budging for a "super" long time ... nor are the boards in my minis.

 

[ENAUD]

Before a 20 year military career in which I repaired electronics down to the component level, I was a draftsman for a couple of years, and then a machinist (worked up to supervisor) for almost 10 years. I just couldn't be stuck inside day in and day out, had itchy feet and wanted to see the world. I could cobble something together. Don't think it will ever come to that though. I've made pretty sure it wouldn't LOL. But the whole time I was cobbling, I'd be wishing I still had access to the equipment I once did for sure. Heck, I even went so far as to scourer the Internet to find P3 thread specs in hopes of finding something off the shelf to make a jig like Mike has. No need to now I guess DOH !!! Even if the ProVape glue becomes brittle and falls apart, that board isn't budging for a "super" long time ... nor are the boards in my minis.

I kind of want to see how the board makes its contact with the tube, I'm guessing maybe a spring loaded gold plated contact in one edge, don't really have any reason as to why I suspect this, other than the old Kicks, that i have tucked away in a box somewhere. I saw a vid where a guy built a really cool box mod with a ProVari chip set, but he never went into detail as to how he wired it up. I had dreams of trying my hand at doing such a mod, and maybe once I can crack open the dead 2.5 I'll have a better idea on how to proceed.

Selling the old place we were in and moving put the kaibosh on a lot of my little projects, and the honey doo list currently has a hold as well...

Edit: BTW you don't need P3 specs, the 510 specs are readily available, and there are/were taps and dies available a while back for them...

 

[Hobbs]

Excellent point about the 510 !!! Been a good while since I looked closely at the jig and I very well could be remembering it wrong. At the end of the day, I just said the heck with it and went a MUCH less prudent route that I may some day regret. Only time will tell but I think these things will outlast me. I'll always have backup regardless of whatever happens to one or two of 'em.

 

[ENAUD]

Excellent point about the 510 !!! Been a good while since I looked closely at the jig and I very well could be remembering it wrong. At the end of the day, I just said the heck with it and went a MUCH less prudent route that I may some day regret. Only time will tell but I think these things will outlast me. I'll always have backup regardless of whatever happens to one or two 'em.

L...O...L I've got... well... a few extras, just in case

 

[Hobbs]

I'd looked at vid after vid of guys with screwdrivers and ballpeen hammers and I just remember looking at Zen's vid and thinking that's genius !!! Heck I had to look at it twice to wrap my head around exactly how the jig was put together and worked. And it's so simple it's genius. The guy is a genius !!!

 

[coldgin96]

LOL.
Gin is a goodhearted soul (at least I think so, LOL) with an unfortunate squirrel problem which is inexplicably neverending. I'm still convinced it's a pheremone thing.

I actually just shot him today with a air gun out of a black walnut tree. Jackie came running out of the garage screaming and when I went out to kill them all, I had my pick from three. He was the unlucky one. I have rat traps with peanut butter, glue traps and a live trap with peanut butter and apples. Patience...

 

[Bronze]

I actually just shot him today with a air gun out of a black walnut tree. Jackie came running out of the garage screaming and when I went out to kill them all, I had my pick from three. He was the unlucky one. I have rat traps with peanut butter, glue traps and a live trap with peanut butter and apples. Patience...

I live in the woods made mostly of oak trees. You can imagine the squirrel population I have here. Neighbor got tired of them so he spent a day sitting on his deck picking them off with a 22. Killed 16 of them. Next day I look over and see as many squirrels as there is any other day.

 

[CMD-Ky]

I live in the woods made mostly of oak trees. You can imagine the squirrel population I have here. Neighbor got tired of them so he spent a day sitting on his deck picking them off with a 22. Killed 16 of them. Next day I look over and see as many squirrels as there is any other day.

I have given up on ridding myself of squirrels (two and four legged). I do put a pile of moth balls under our automobiles, I feel like I have done something productive. We have oak and hickory trees and sometimes think that half of the world's squirrel population lives with me.

 

[AstroTurf]

I live in the woods made mostly of oak trees. You can imagine the squirrel population I have here. Neighbor got tired of them so he spent a day sitting on his deck picking them off with a 22. Killed 16 of them. Next day I look over and see as many squirrels as there is any other day.

 

[Bronze]

I have given up on ridding myself of squirrels (two and four legged). I do put a pile of moth balls under our automobiles, I feel like I have done something productive. We have oak and hickory trees and sometimes think that half of the world's squirrel population lives with me.

We have a lot of copperheads around here. Moth balls are effective at keeping them out. Squirrels go on my roof and chew up the dormer eaves. They are pesty little creatures.

 

[CMD-Ky]

We have a lot of copperheads around here. Moth balls are effective at keeping them out. Squirrels go on my roof and chew up the dormer eaves. They are pesty little creatures.

I do shoot copperheads.

 

[Bea-FL]

Great history and knowledge to know. Thank you for sharing ENAUD. I once emailed Mike about purchasing one of his tools (two plates with the threaded rods) I saw him do a vid on last year, wherein he removed the top cap of a 2.5 ... of course he never answered my email on that one LOL.

This is the worker bee end cap that lives on that 2.5 and is back on there now. I like the way it looks on the 2.5 too. The 4 directions kind of compliment the planet looking (to me) lines in the 2.5. I can live with it

I love that end cap. It's my favorite…but I don't have one.

I kind of want to see how the board makes its contact with the tube, I'm guessing maybe a spring loaded gold plated contact in one edge, don't really have any reason as to why I suspect this, other than the old Kicks, that i have tucked away in a box somewhere. I saw a vid where a guy built a really cool box mod with a ProVari chip set, but he never went into detail as to how he wired it up. I had dreams of trying my hand at doing such a mod, and maybe once I can crack open the dead 2.5 I'll have a better idea on how to proceed.

Selling the old place we were in and moving put the kaibosh on a lot of my little projects, and the honey doo list currently has a hold as well...

Edit: BTW you don't need P3 specs, the 510 specs are readily available, and there are/were taps and dies available a while back for them...

I hear you and Hobbs talking about boards and chips coming lose. Is that a real concern or just being cautious and planning for what ifs?

I have enough Provaris to last me for the rest of my life if they each last four years, plus a few extra for backups. I think I'm ok?

I live in the woods made mostly of oak trees. You can imagine the squirrel population I have here. Neighbor got tired of them so he spent a day sitting on his deck picking them off with a 22. Killed 16 of them. Next day I look over and see as many squirrels as there is any other day.

Yup I luve in the woods too so tons of squirrels. That's why I had to build a cage to grow my veggies.

That neighbor of yours is unaware of the habitat principle which goes like this: if there is a habitat suitable for a particular species of animal and it is vacated by that animal, another one of the species will quickly move in. In human terms imagine someone moves out of a house…in a nice neighborhood and at the right price it doesn't stay empty for long. So all your neighbor did was opened up habitat for other squirrels.

The only way to evict without others moving in is to change the habitat or move away. In this case and because squirrels are arboreal it would be to cut down all the trees. I don't seriously advocate doing that but I spent the first half of my adult life working at the Education Dept of a zoo where part of my job was to snswer people's questions about how to get rid of ..........

I get irritated with people like your neighbor…We move in to their habitat but we want them to go away

Ok, off my soapbox now

 

[CMD-Ky]

I rigged an electrified fence around my garden. It didn't have enough juice to do mortal damage but it did discourage the squirrels mightily. By the end of summer, the battery will last a long time.

I love that end cap. It's my favorite…but I don't have one.


I hear you and Hobbs talking about boards and chips coming lose. Is that a real concern or just being cautious and planning for what ifs?

I have enough Provaris to last me for the rest of my life if they each last four years, plus a few extra for backups. I think I'm ok?


Yup I luve in the woods too so tons of squirrels. That's why I had to build a cage to grow my veggies.

That neighbor of yours is unaware of the habitat principle which goes like this: if there is a habitat suitable for a particular species of animal and it is vacated by that animal, another one of the species will quickly move in. In human terms imagine someone moves out of a house…in a nice neighborhood and at the right price it doesn't stay empty for long. So all your neighbor did was opened up habitat for other squirrels.

The only way to evict without others moving in is to change the habitat or move away. In this case and because squirrels are arboreal it would be to cut down all the trees. I don't seriously advocate doing that but I spent the first half of my adult life working at the Education Dept of a zoo where part of my job was to snswer people's questions about how to get rid of ..........

I get irritated with people like your neighbor…We move in to their habitat but we want them to go away

Ok, off my soapbox now

 

[Pinggolfer]

Neighbor got tired of them so he spent a day sitting on his deck picking them off with a 22. Killed 16 of them. Next day I look over and see as many squirrels as there is any other day.

Neighbor or was that you Mr Crockett?

 

[Bronze]

I love that end cap. It's my favorite…but I don't have one.


I hear you and Hobbs talking about boards and chips coming lose. Is that a real concern or just being cautious and planning for what ifs?

I have enough Provaris to last me for the rest of my life if they each last four years, plus a few extra for backups. I think I'm ok?


Yup I luve in the woods too so tons of squirrels. That's why I had to build a cage to grow my veggies.

That neighbor of yours is unaware of the habitat principle which goes like this: if there is a habitat suitable for a particular species of animal and it is vacated by that animal, another one of the species will quickly move in. In human terms imagine someone moves out of a house…in a nice neighborhood and at the right price it doesn't stay empty for long. So all your neighbor did was opened up habitat for other squirrels.

The only way to evict without others moving in is to change the habitat or move away. In this case and because squirrels are arboreal it would be to cut down all the trees. I don't seriously advocate doing that but I spent the first half of my adult life working at the Education Dept of a zoo where part of my job was to snswer people's questions about how to get rid of ..........

I get irritated with people like your neighbor…We move in to their habitat but we want them to go away

Ok, off my soapbox now

Well, that is absolutely right. You can kill an animal but it takes very little time to replace them. I have killed snakes slithering around the house before but generally try to capture them and release them back in the woods for this very reason. I kill it and it will be replaced in short order. Besides, snakes keep the rodent population down.