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I saw a Rip Tripper video from 2013 wherein he demonstrates how he preps a porous ceramic wick with a single sting of unbleached cheesecloth before coiling.

Basically you could say, he wraps the ceramic with cotton I suppose. The desired advantage is that there is no wick/coil "break in" required. No hot spots. Wire doesn't have to be as tight against the ceramic, so no "heat wrap" required. Ceramic/cotton has a cleaner taste than oxidized stainless mesh.

Disadvantages I see are, well, it's cotton which may not last longer than any other cotton wicking and necessitate a more frequent coil/wick build as it may gunk up or burn away. And it will burn away if dry fired I would imagine. And if it does burn away, you're left with the same problem some encounter when using porous ceramic coils ... hot spots because the wire isn't tight enough against the ceramic.

I'm sure I've overlooked some advantages and disadvantages or maybe guessing some things wrong as I've never tried this method. Has any sane person in the real world actually tried this method and found it to be "tried and true"?

 

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1968 ... for your $4.50, would you have gone Saturday or Sunday? If I'd gone both dayz I prolly wouldn't have made it to work Monday LOL.

I'm thinking Sunday but would have had to be careful, or I prolly wouldn't have made it to work on Monday HA !!! I needed that $1.40 or $1.60 an hour minimum wage job. Gas was about 32 cents a gallon and a pack of smokes was about 50 cents. I could live large on an average weekend for $20 and hang with my girl and friends but was always up for a road trip and Saturday was always a real good time. Just think I like the Sunday line up best.

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: popcorn thingy :

I saw a Rip Tripper video from 2013 wherein he demonstrates how he preps a porous ceramic wick with a single sting of unbleached cheesecloth before coiling.

Basically you could say, he wraps the ceramic with cotton I suppose. The desired advantage is that there is no wick/coil "break in" required. No hot spots. Wire doesn't have to be as tight against the ceramic, so no "heat wrap" required. Ceramic/cotton has a cleaner taste than oxidized stainless mesh.

Disadvantages I see are, well, it's cotton which may not last longer than any other cotton wicking and necessitate a more frequent coil/wick build as it may gunk up or burn away. And it will burn away if dry fired I would imagine. And if it does burn away, you're left with the same problem some encounter when using porous ceramic coils ... hot spots because the wire isn't tight enough against the ceramic.

I'm sure I've overlooked some advantages and disadvantages or maybe guessing some things wrong as I've never tried this method. Has any sane person in the real world actually tried this method and found it to be "tried and true"?


I wouldn't even attempt it personally, maybe once just to try it but it would defeat the whole reason I like the Gennie builds I use, ease of maintenance. I think the cotton would gunk up pretty quickly, and require a tear down and rebuild. No way to clean and dry burn it. That's why I went with a cotton build in my atties, just pull the wick, dry burn, add a new wick and keep on vapin'. The coils last for months at a time, where I might replace the wick after a day or two, or even every couple hours depending on what I'm running through the tank.
 

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Stopped by the local brick and mortar vape shop today. I only seem to get by there every several months or so. Asked about some 28ga. Kanthal. They don't have much wire to begin with and the only 28ga. they had was stainless. Picked up a box of 1.8ohm Nautilus coils just to toss a little business their way. The shop owner passed away suddenly last November and he wasn't even 40 years old. His wife and friends run the shop now.

I'd spoken with the owner some time last year about Provari. He had an older one "laying around somewhere" but wasn't a dealer. Today I asked his wife if she had any Provari laying around back there in the office anywhere? She brightened a bit, sweetly smiled and said she did have one back there and was hanging onto it ... it had belonged to her husband. She apologized for not having the Kanthal and I explained that was fine. I have some that will be here in the mail soon.

Most of the mods and atomizers they have are one's I've never even heard of. Chinese mostly and flashy. Many looked interesting ... but I wasn't interested. I think most of their business is in flavored juices ... and I vape unflavored. They just seem to cater to whole group of vapers I'm not really a part of. A younger crowd looking for clouds and some older who are happy with the eGo and other pen styles they've used all along and will likely never switch. Not sure where you'd say I really fit in. It is what it is I guess. At least they do have Nautilus coils ... if the "post office" ever runs out of them.

So what are vape shops around you like?
 

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So what are vape shops around you like?

The vape shop here, there is only one in town and it's newer, just opened last fall.. (But we are a town of less than a thousand residents, so there is that)

Girl who owns it is in her mid 20's, when my son came to visit and we visited the shop he was in.. something.. lol.. she's cute. All the kids who work there are in their early twenties.

None of them have heard of Provape, or Provari mods, they don't know what a nautilus mini is either. They haven't a clue what a Kayfun is either, nor a Kabuki.

I have done my part to educate them, and showed them what they look like, and told them what they are for.. lol..

They don't carry 28 gauge kanthal (or any other 28 gauge resistance wire) but they carry a 26 gauge Kanthal for me for emergencies. 1 package, I'm the only one in town who uses it. The kids who build use 24 gauge.

They carry ego type batteries and kanger t3s types of stuff for those who are quitting smoking, and aliens and wismec reuleaux etc etc type mods with BB tanks and griffins and goons for the vapers.. nothing in between.

It's sad.. we do buy hubbies juice there.. it's all we buy there unless I run out of cotton or kanthal..
 

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I wouldn't even attempt it personally, maybe once just to try it but it would defeat the whole reason I like the Gennie builds I use, ease of maintenance. I think the cotton would gunk up pretty quickly, and require a tear down and rebuild. No way to clean and dry burn it. That's why I went with a cotton build in my atties, just pull the wick, dry burn, add a new wick and keep on vapin'. The coils last for months at a time, where I might replace the wick after a day or two, or even every couple hours depending on what I'm running through the tank.

That's why I started to use cotton string in my Gennie. Would put about a foot of it in the tank pull it up through the coil. When it got gunked up at the coil I would lightly scrub the coil with one of the toothbrush type toothpicks and just pull fresh string through the coil up out of the tank, snip off the dirty part. Like you said the setup would last a month or more. and no real rewicking. Took about two minutes to do.
 

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    1968 ... for your $4.50, would you have gone Saturday or Sunday? If I'd gone both dayz I prolly wouldn't have made it to work Monday LOL.

    I'm thinking Sunday but would have had to be careful, or I prolly wouldn't have made it to work on Monday HA !!! I needed that $1.40 or $1.60 an hour minimum wage job. Gas was about 32 cents a gallon and a pack of smokes was about 50 cents. I could live large on an average weekend for $20 and hang with my girl and friends but was always up for a road trip and Saturday was always a real good time. Just think I like the Sunday line up best.

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    Nice, and ty. Always looking for Blue Ball all these years and here they Were called blue cheer. Sonny and cher, lol
     

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    1968 ... for your $4.50, would you have gone Saturday or Sunday? If I'd gone both dayz I prolly wouldn't have made it to work Monday LOL.

    I'm thinking Sunday but would have had to be careful, or I prolly wouldn't have made it to work on Monday HA !!! I needed that $1.40 or $1.60 an hour minimum wage job. Gas was about 32 cents a gallon and a pack of smokes was about 50 cents. I could live large on an average weekend for $20 and hang with my girl and friends but was always up for a road trip and Saturday was always a real good time. Just think I like the Sunday line up best.

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    I like most of those bands, there are a few I never heard of, unfortunately I was only 7 and was most likely playing with my GI Joe's. :D

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    Honestly in 1968, I hadn't heard of those west coast bands and wouldn't until 1970 and later.

    Gotta remember, there weren't many FM stations. Heck, nobody I knew even had FM in their car or truck. We had FM on the radio at home but all they played was classical music. FM wasn't a thing until the mid 70's. Didn't have any kind of tape player in vehicles either. ... AM was all we had and all AM played was top 40's ... until we discovered Beaker Street with Clyde Clifford out of Little Rock Arkansas. Late at night we'd drive to the tallest hill in the county and on a good night, Beaker Street would come in crystal clear.

    1968 ... WBAM radio put on their summer show. "The Big Bam" AM out of Montgomery Alabama ... the only station played on my car radio all day every day ... put on their summer show. I saw Herman's Hermits, Lou Christie and one or two other's I can't remember. We had a good time ... but not a "west coast" good time.
     

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    1968 ... for your $4.50, would you have gone Saturday or Sunday? If I'd gone both dayz I prolly wouldn't have made it to work Monday LOL.

    I'm thinking Sunday but would have had to be careful, or I prolly wouldn't have made it to work on Monday HA !!! I needed that $1.40 or $1.60 an hour minimum wage job. Gas was about 32 cents a gallon and a pack of smokes was about 50 cents. I could live large on an average weekend for $20 and hang with my girl and friends but was always up for a road trip and Saturday was always a real good time. Just think I like the Sunday line up best.

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    That was the year I was born. When this concert was occurring, I was not yet breathing air.. that wouldn't occur for another 3 months..

    Anyway.. if I was alive and liked the music, I would have gone Saturday, for steppenwolf.. I've heard of them.. never saw them in concert though. I did see iron butterfly when I was in my early 20's, most people didn't know they were still alive then.
     

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