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And now we see their evil plan unfurling, they will probably call them an ENDS, the public will be totally unaware of how it all came to be, and in a year or two, the FDA can be the strong arm to squash out the remaining competition, meaning most vapor products. Death by a thousand cuts...

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And now we see their evil plan unfurling, they will probably call them an ENDS, the public will be totally unaware of how it all came to be, and in a year or two, the FDA can be the strong arm to squash out the remaining competition, meaning most vapor products. Death by a thousand cuts...

Rather than "Full Tinfoil", I think this is a wise observation, intelligence guided by experience.
 

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And now we see their evil plan unfurling, they will probably call them an ENDS, the public will be totally unaware of how it all came to be, and in a year or two, the FDA can be the strong arm to squash out the remaining competition, meaning most vapor products. Death by a thousand cuts...

This is exactly how I see things playing out ... Hobby vaping is about to be killed off.
 

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I really really hope that is not the case. But.... :(

That's why I didn't get all "thrilled" by the new FDA stance, I think our president is quite wily and while that can be a useful characteristic in politics, well, you can take anything too far. I am afraid I am more of the "show me" persuasion when it comes to politics, in anything, rather than "tell me." I've already accepted that 99.99999% of government officials are merely telling me what they "think" "I" "want" to "hear."

Also, all these "heads" do report to our leader, and he's pretty anti most things (well except pretty women I guess) that have even the remotest thing to do with addiction, so I wouldn't be shocked if he wiped out tobacco via vaping, and then either put vaping in a stranglehold or tried to eliminate it altogether.

While I don't consider him that successful of a "businessman" he certainly is, for our times anyway, and knows how to wipe out competition both "in public" and "behind closed doors."

I'm afraid I've reached that stage of age where I no longer care who is the "least worst" politician. I refuse to vote for anyone unless I can genuinely hold my head up high at the results. I'd probably write in my local pastor or something, next time, if I even bother.

I just say do what you need to in order to be prepared for whatever. Useful advice under any regime/circumstance. :(

We can all move to Britain, really, worst case... except we can't ALL move there. But I think there will be countries that support vaping, in whatever fashion, and under whatever circumstances and I think Britain will be one of them. They genuinely don't care what other countries think. America likes to think itself the boss of the world, but if you ask me, Britain still remains the leader. I don't care who won WW2, sure America can mobilize itself when necessary, that doesn't make it the "world leader," at least not in my eyes.

I'm kinda betting on Britain/Canada to mop up any HUGE mess this regime manages to put in place, and including freaking.... WW3.

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I really really hope that is not the case. But.... :(

That's why I didn't get all "thrilled" by the new FDA stance, I think our president is quite wily and while that can be a useful characteristic in politics, well, you can take anything too far. I am afraid I am more of the "show me" persuasion when it comes to politics, in anything, rather than "tell me." I've already accepted that 99.99999% of government officials are merely telling me what they "think" "I" "want" to "hear."

Also, all these "heads" do report to our leader, and he's pretty anti most things (well except pretty women I guess) that have even the remotest thing to do with addiction, so I wouldn't be shocked if he wiped out tobacco via vaping, and then either put vaping in a stranglehold or tried to eliminate it altogether.

While I don't consider him that successful of a "businessman" he certainly is, for our times anyway, and knows how to wipe out competition both "in public" and "behind closed doors."

I'm afraid I've reached that stage of age where I no longer care who is the "least worst" politician. I refuse to vote for anyone unless I can genuinely hold my head up high at the results. I'd probably write in my local pastor or something, next time, if I even bother.

I just say do what you need to in order to be prepared for whatever. Useful advice under any regime/circumstance. :(

We can all move to Britain, really, worst case... except we can't ALL move there. But I think there will be countries that support vaping, in whatever fashion, and under whatever circumstances and I think Britain will be one of them. They genuinely don't care what other countries think. America likes to think itself the boss of the world, but if you ask me, Britain still remains the leader. I don't care who won WW2, sure America can mobilize itself when necessary, that doesn't make it the "world leader," at least not in my eyes.

I'm kinda betting on Britain/Canada to mop up any HUGE mess this regime manages to put in place, and including freaking.... WW3.

Anna

don't count on Canada ... Trudeau has already sold out the Canadian people :smokie:
 

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Troudeau and Ms. Ivanka did seem a little fond of each other, yes. I couldn't tell if it is was one way or not, I just remember thinking, "Get some pride, or at least patience, only the president of the US gets to bang someone in the oval office.

To get back on topic, I will be taking apart my faulty radius today to see what's going on, possibly. I mean..... Hopefully.

Anna
 

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Troudeau and Ms. Ivanka did seem a little fond of each other, yes. I couldn't tell if it is was one way or not, I just remember thinking, "Get some pride, or at least patience, only the president of the US gets to bang someone in the oval office.

To get back on topic, I will be taking apart my faulty radius today to see what's going on, possibly. I mean..... Hopefully.

Anna
What about Mr. Bill the repair guy?

What happened to your Radius?
 

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It got a "fatal error" message, that scrolls "Contact for repair." By taking apart, I mean removing the battery looking at the contacts etc., I won't be prying at anything or anything. Should have done it sooner, but I just haven't had it in me. Removed tank and all, just set it aside. Didn't see any leaking. If my rudimentary "reboot" results in the same message, I will email Bill for sure.

Anna
 

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It got a "fatal error" message, that scrolls "Contact for repair." By taking apart, I mean removing the battery looking at the contacts etc., I won't be prying at anything or anything. Should have done it sooner, but I just haven't had it in me. Removed tank and all, just set it aside. Didn't see any leaking. If my rudimentary "reboot" results in the same message, I will email Bill for sure.

Anna
Contacts are prob fine. I'd pull the battery and leave it out for a few minutes, then pop it back in.

Don't ever get rid of any of your LED screen ProVi's ;)
Good Luck Anna.
 

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