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What the heck NASA doing with those huge rockets and our money?

SEND THOSE STEALING BASTIGES SOME 9Vs!!!! :evil:
Funny how we the people indirectly funded the launching of a car into interplanetary space :blink: o_O A world gone mad...
 

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So is there a good way to store them for the long-term?

Being a Moochette myself, I'm in the process of really taking a better look, and better care and feeding of all my batteries.

Long term storage 'should' be at 40-70% of full capacity. If your batts are in rotation, and will be used 'soon', then charging them up 'full' capacity is fine (4.1v rather than 4.2v will extend the life of the battery 'a lot').

So, in accordance with Dr. M., I'm charging up to about 3.8 or 3.9ish volts for what might be my long term storage. Then, the recommendation is to charge those to full (4.1v, in this case) right before using them.

Monsieur Moocho says that batts like to be somewhere in the middle, and do NOT like the extremes.

Gotta love these 'terms'. :facepalm:
 

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Being a Moochette myself, I'm in the process of really taking a better look, and better care and feeding of all my batteries.

Long term storage 'should' be at 40-70% of full capacity. If your batts are in rotation, and will be used 'soon', then charging them up 'full' capacity is fine (4.1v rather than 4.2v will extend the life of the battery 'a lot').

So, in accordance with Dr. M., I'm charging up to about 3.8 or 3.9ish volts for what might be my long term storage. Then, the recommendation is to charge those to full (4.1v, in this case) right before using them.

Monsieur Moocho says that batts like to be somewhere in the middle, and do NOT like the extremes.

Gotta love these 'terms'. :facepalm:

And that maybe why the XTAR Dragon never charges to full. The display says the batteries are charged to 100%, but they're not. Put the freshly charged batteries into any other charger that reads in volts and they'll be at 4.1.

So those going into storage I'm charging on the Dragon to "full," then taking out X volts with an Opus BT to get around to your 3.9.

I'm learning.
 

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Yep, that was "Glantz's study findings" rewritten to make them even dumber. I know it's hard to go dumber than Glantz.... But it's CNN.

I can't watch CNN anymore, I really hate their "androgynous" Head Reporters (all of them, but most of all the dude with the snowy white hair, and Rachel whatever her name is). I just cringe any time I look at them.

So well done, CNN, you topped Glantz, and you are really high in contention for a Darwin award (IMO) only in this case, it's more like a "Hitler" award... How many people can you kill off by inciting fear and loathing into the E-cig world. Gah. :(

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Funny how we the people indirectly funded the launching of a car into interplanetary space :blink: o_O A world gone mad...
I don’t want to go off topic, but a comment about being a senior citizen. It took me 8 months to realize ENAUD is DUANE spelled backwards. Jeez.....
 

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I don’t want to go off topic, but a comment about being a senior citizen. It took me 8 months to realize ENAUD is DUANE spelled backwards. Jeez.....

Don't feel bad, Red - I think it was a few years, AND Kat pointing it out to me...

:blush:

Quite creative, that ENAUD, and I love it. :thumbs:
 

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the hammer might be getting ready to drop... however, I'm not sure if this is actually true, I read it on CNN :blink:

E-cigarettes: Where do we stand? - CNN

That piece is so inaccurate as to beg the question: at what point does misinformation become actionable?

I foresee a time, in the future, when this sort of informational malpractice will inform lawsuits as it becomes clear that ecigarettes are, in practice as well as fact, orders of magnitude less dangerous than tobacco use, if not entirely safe.

This is (another) case of journalists not doing their job, when it comes to reporting on ecigarettes.

One can sympathize.

It's so much easier to just accept that info dump from Glantz et al, than to mess up your weekend getaway following up with some actual research.

Journalistic malpractice of the highest order, to go along with the medical and legislative malpractice witnessed over the years.
 
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This is (another) case of journalists not doing their job, when it comes to reporting on ecigarettes.
I believe it goes beyond journalists simply not doing their job. I believe they have agendas and report accordingly. Generally speaking, the media is more dishonest and evil than our politicians.
 

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The media is really a TOOL of our politicians. Long gone are the days when journalists actually did stuff to "out" dishonest practices in politics or anywhere. I mean, Richard Nixon.... He's unlucky to have lived in the days he did, and etc. I am also of the belief that around that time, politics became QUITE aware of how powerful a tool the media can be. I am also of the belief that one party has done better "infiltrating" than another. I get "liberal" news from my kid, and "Conservative" news from the husband.

I also use other search engines than google (although I sometimes use google) and the "results stack" can be quite interesting. Diversity is the only way to go, that and holding up the lies and "interests" of both sides, and sort of wading through the result.

Me? I listen to music. So much less argumentative. LOL.

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Tell-Lie-Vision= a constant bombardment of propaganda...

Propaganda in the United States - Wikipedia

Propaganda in the United States is spread by both government and media entities. Propaganda is information, ideas, or rumors deliberately spread widely to influence opinions. It's used in advertising, radio, newspaper, posters, books, television, and other media.

Ad Council[edit]
The Ad Council, an American non-profit organization that distributes public service announcements on behalf of various private and federal government agency sponsors, has been labeled as "little more than a domestic propaganda arm of the federal government" given the Ad Council's historically close collaboration with the President of the United States and the federal government.[14]


Psychological operations[edit]
Further information: Psychological Operations (United States) and Psychological warfare
The US military defines psychological operations, or PSYOP, as:

planned operations to convey selected information and indicators to foreign audiences to influence the emotions, motives, objective reasoning, and ultimately the behavior of foreign governments, organizations, groups, and individuals.[16]

Some argue that the Smith-Mundt Act, adopted in 1948, explicitly forbids information and psychological operations aimed at the US public.[17] However, Emma L Briant points out that this is a common confusion - The Smith-Mundt Act only ever applied to the State Department, not the Department of Defense and military PSYOP, which are governed by Article 10 of the US Code.[18] Rumsfeld's Roadmap to Propaganda - Secret Pentagon "roadmap" calls for "boundaries" between "information operations" abroad and at home but provides no actual limits as long as the US does not "target" Americans by National Security Archive,


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the hammer might be getting ready to drop... however, I'm not sure if this is actually true, I read it on CNN :blink:

E-cigarettes: Where do we stand? - CNN
I just had to read the entire article, they did not disappoint my expectations. Interesting timeline piece focusing on all or most of the negative press regarding ecigs, with a healthy dose of Glantz sprinkled on top. Well done CNN, way to keep the average Joe disinformed and ready to go along with whatever is needed to protect the children!
 

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That piece is so inaccurate as to beg the question: at what point does misinformation become actionable?

I foresee a time, in the future, when this sort of informational malpractice will inform lawsuits as it becomes clear that ecigarettes are, in practice as well as fact, orders of magnitude less dangerous than tobacco use, if not entirely safe.

This is (another) case of journalists not doing their job, when it comes to reporting on ecigarettes.

One can sympathize.

It's so much easier to just accept that info dump from Glantz et al, than to mess up your weekend getaway following up with some actual research.

Journalistic malpractice of the highest order, to go along with the medical and legislative malpractice witnessed over the years.

I have no doubt that the national media is under severe pressure and more than a few outlets have already been compromised. But I think the real issue is our society's woeful plunge into accepting just about anything.

In large city outlets (and also my locals) I see errors and grammar that would have been instant grounds for terminations back when the media still had standards. I blame the journalism schools who are using fuzzy headed professors to "teach" precious snowflakes. Note that I defiantly remain a political independent so both sides get equal blame right now.

The largest newspaper near me was once owned by the person the Pulitzer Prize is named after. During the height of wall street greed, it was bought in a hostile takeover by a company that did weekly throwaways in Iowa. The debt load was so high, a constant but subtle campaign replaced the better paid journalists with fresh grads who apparently can't write a paragraph without errors.

The decline in national news is partly our fault. Ratings make it clear that people like to watch attractive people, and that decimates the talent pool. Can anyone imagine Walter Cronkite, Huntley, or Brinkley even getting a major market job at this point?

From the standpoint of geezerness, it wasn't always like it is today. A huge amount of effort went into vetting stories and the main focus for a broadcaster is that their personal opinions were not evident. And it wasn't that long ago that an opinion poll placed Walter Cronkite as the most trusted/respected person in the USA.
 

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