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I only use the optimistic emoji to convey positive support for someone who seems to be in a tough spot, or a rough place, that I can empathize with...
Me to, and sometimes just to acknowledge a post when nothing else seems to fit. I will no longer use it with one of my favorite members, though.
 

stols001

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Aww heck I was having a bad day. And SOMEWHAT kidding. Optimistic me all you want, I am now in The Hate for like, my REAL family the husband and the kid are arguing and I feel SO BAD for the kid, but he's also being a canoe of IDK Young Man Idiot .... and doing dumb stuff and the husband is being a cranky OLD man, dude, and ALSO a complete twit and he won't be mature at ALL and I was on the phone with him this morning (last night, l hung up on him in Walmart cuz it was LATE I had to EAT and I was not prepared to eat a frozen tub of green beans and the yelling was just....) so I called him this morning and like, I hate him SO MUCH sometimes.

I get he has PTSD but the yelling is going to have to stop. I didn't get to bed until like 11:30 last night and as I was trying to get my point across (I don't care about the stupid argument, just don't YELL at me all the time when I am discussing it with you because you are supposed to be a grown ... adult. YEP.)

I was also a grown adult when he got all PTSD at me he asked me what I thought, and I said, "Honestly? You have had PTSD for a long time, and I understand it is really hard, and that you hate that my family hates you, but seriously you are RUDE and UNKIND and if you acted NICER perhaps things would be BETTER. Having had a mental illness and had to combat it, and while I appreciate your help, I have to be honest. At this point there are times I believe you use it as an excuse, and also, use it to be manipulative, and while that may or may not be true, I most of the time feel somewhat sorry for you, but there is also... a distaste that I feel when you start conflating "ALL the world's a stage and all the actors merely players OUT to get Mr. Anna," that starts to occur when I think "MAN UP ALL THE OTHER MEN DO IT."

Then, I realized I was sleep deprived, that I was exhausted, that talking to the husband at work while googling "Fastest divorce in Arizona" was like, probably not the best idea, so I came home.

I was late to Walmart because the boy called all ablither and told me some of the dumb stuff the husband did like mention the dog ran away where we had SEVERAL stern conversations about like "DO not tell the kid, it's fine now, etc. and whatever." MAYBE it was not my best decision of all TIME, but it was the decision that was DECIDED upon.

The husband was all like, "I didn't want to lie to the kid." And I was like, "Well then you should not have lied to ME about not telling him and that you were okay with that, etc." This led to a discussion of him saying that I said he lied all the time and I said that in the past, he had lied frequently. He was like, "You are always saying I lied in marriage counseling."
To which I responded, "You did lie in marriage counseling. In fact, you lied so blatantly and horrifically I would get up in anger and stomp out into the garden the marriage counselor had and like smoke a cigarette so I did not kill something, and the whole time you'd be like, "See, she's the problem." To the marriage counselor." To which he denied lying and I was like "DUDE, if you want to pull out all your financial records and review the dates of your Western Union Transactions and we all know what THOSE were about, and the date of the marriage counseling copays we can do that, but I would prefer NOT to." Then he was like, "I believe that was around the time of a med change and I was like "Nice try. It wasn't actually. There are also records of that too."

Then I realized I was just in no state to deal with other people's problems and came home. There is no one to counsel in Douglas anyway, they are all getting blind drunk it's independence day. Even schools are closed.

In any case, well, I thought about being blind drunk a bit which prompted me to look up AA meetings in Douglas finally which is cool. They have a lunch one 3 minutes away from my work. And an evening one. So, I will GO. But, not TODAY. Some day when I actually don't feel like passing out would be the most fun thing I could do. Etc.

If I get unmarried, I am NEVER getting married again. Oh, I will have LOTS of sex, but tie my FATE and FUTURE to another human being? OH HELL NO, not AGAIN. I'm doing GOOD right now, ain't no one gonna mess with that ANYMORE. Not this lifetime.

The thing is I really love the husband. I wish I could hate him as much as some of my family members, but I can't. Life would be easier if I could. I don't think it's some codependent thing either, I've been on my own before, I could do it again. I just genuinely love him, which is... IDK it feels like fate, kismet, whatever. I don't think I'm an abused spouse, but I am DONE with the yelling. That is a symptom that I am already making a behavioral plan to EXTINGUISH it has gone on far too long. He's not going to know what hit him.

Anna
 

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If I get unmarried, I am NEVER getting married again. Oh, I will have LOTS of sex, but tie my FATE and FUTURE to another human being? OH HELL NO, not AGAIN. I'm doing GOOD right now, ain't no one gonna mess with that ANYMORE. Not this lifetime.
I said and did the same. TWENTY (20) YEARS after my divorce, I married Jackie.
Good luck, rock on, and God bless
 

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Aww heck I was having a bad day. And SOMEWHAT kidding. Optimistic me all you want, I am now in The Hate for like, my REAL family the husband and the kid are arguing and I feel SO BAD for the kid, but he's also being a canoe of IDK Young Man Idiot .... and doing dumb stuff and the husband is being a cranky OLD man, dude, and ALSO a complete twit and he won't be mature at ALL and I was on the phone with him this morning (last night, l hung up on him in Walmart cuz it was LATE I had to EAT and I was not prepared to eat a frozen tub of green beans and the yelling was just....) so I called him this morning and like, I hate him SO MUCH sometimes.

I get he has PTSD but the yelling is going to have to stop. I didn't get to bed until like 11:30 last night and as I was trying to get my point across (I don't care about the stupid argument, just don't YELL at me all the time when I am discussing it with you because you are supposed to be a grown ... adult. YEP.)

I was also a grown adult when he got all PTSD at me he asked me what I thought, and I said, "Honestly? You have had PTSD for a long time, and I understand it is really hard, and that you hate that my family hates you, but seriously you are RUDE and UNKIND and if you acted NICER perhaps things would be BETTER. Having had a mental illness and had to combat it, and while I appreciate your help, I have to be honest. At this point there are times I believe you use it as an excuse, and also, use it to be manipulative, and while that may or may not be true, I most of the time feel somewhat sorry for you, but there is also... a distaste that I feel when you start conflating "ALL the world's a stage and all the actors merely players OUT to get Mr. Anna," that starts to occur when I think "MAN UP ALL THE OTHER MEN DO IT."

Then, I realized I was sleep deprived, that I was exhausted, that talking to the husband at work while googling "Fastest divorce in Arizona" was like, probably not the best idea, so I came home.

I was late to Walmart because the boy called all ablither and told me some of the dumb stuff the husband did like mention the dog ran away where we had SEVERAL stern conversations about like "DO not tell the kid, it's fine now, etc. and whatever." MAYBE it was not my best decision of all TIME, but it was the decision that was DECIDED upon.

The husband was all like, "I didn't want to lie to the kid." And I was like, "Well then you should not have lied to ME about not telling him and that you were okay with that, etc." This led to a discussion of him saying that I said he lied all the time and I said that in the past, he had lied frequently. He was like, "You are always saying I lied in marriage counseling."
To which I responded, "You did lie in marriage counseling. In fact, you lied so blatantly and horrifically I would get up in anger and stomp out into the garden the marriage counselor had and like smoke a cigarette so I did not kill something, and the whole time you'd be like, "See, she's the problem." To the marriage counselor." To which he denied lying and I was like "DUDE, if you want to pull out all your financial records and review the dates of your Western Union Transactions and we all know what THOSE were about, and the date of the marriage counseling copays we can do that, but I would prefer NOT to." Then he was like, "I believe that was around the time of a med change and I was like "Nice try. It wasn't actually. There are also records of that too."

Then I realized I was just in no state to deal with other people's problems and came home. There is no one to counsel in Douglas anyway, they are all getting blind drunk it's independence day. Even schools are closed.

In any case, well, I thought about being blind drunk a bit which prompted me to look up AA meetings in Douglas finally which is cool. They have a lunch one 3 minutes away from my work. And an evening one. So, I will GO. But, not TODAY. Some day when I actually don't feel like passing out would be the most fun thing I could do. Etc.

If I get unmarried, I am NEVER getting married again. Oh, I will have LOTS of sex, but tie my FATE and FUTURE to another human being? OH HELL NO, not AGAIN. I'm doing GOOD right now, ain't no one gonna mess with that ANYMORE. Not this lifetime.

The thing is I really love the husband. I wish I could hate him as much as some of my family members, but I can't. Life would be easier if I could. I don't think it's some codependent thing either, I've been on my own before, I could do it again. I just genuinely love him, which is... IDK it feels like fate, kismet, whatever. I don't think I'm an abused spouse, but I am DONE with the yelling. That is a symptom that I am already making a behavioral plan to EXTINGUISH it has gone on far too long. He's not going to know what hit him.

Anna
Please for the love of all that is holy tell me what you do to get him to shut up and stop yelling. Just what in the world is it that they think they accomplish? Hang in there...
 

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I’m lying down here (yes, it’s my day off) ABing a Dani Box 21700 and a p3 with 18650 installed and the vape off the p3 is better.

I can’t figure this out.

Is the signal that much fatter on the ProVari?

Somebody hit the optimistic eMudge.

I must be fooling myself.
 

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I’m lying down here (yes, it’s my day off) ABing a Dani Box 21700 and a p3 with 18650 installed and the vape off the p3 is better.

I can’t figure this out.

Is the signal that much fatter on the ProVari?

Somebody hit the optimistic eMudge.

I must be fooling myself.

It matters not. If you like it better, than you like it better. We vapers tend to get overly scientific about things, and sometimes Occam's Razor rules.

ENJOY IT, JWB! :vapor:
 

stols001

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Please for the love of all that is holy tell me what you do to get him to shut up and stop yelling.

I have decided that extinguishing the behavior will work best. This will require a place for me to go (possibly with a bag, although I will ADMIT I have no desire to stay at the Motel 6 just outside of Douglas.... that's a lie actually I am DEEPLY interested in who and what will be there but since a gun seems like a bad idea, I may require some mace....) I am going to start with 30 minute increments. Then go up from there. There will be no outgoing phone calls after a yelling episode he is going to have to ah, "deswell" himself, and call ME. When he asks why I have not called, I will sweetly state, "I'm sorry, I was waiting for you to become a human being again and since you are NOT apparently doing it on your own, I am ACCELERATING the time frame so how are you honey?"

I'm afraid he's in the unfortunate position that if things go south, his life gets worse. Mine doesn't.

I think part of the problem is like, right now, we are both stressed out. But the yelling, it's gotten to be too much. He's going to have to man up. I refuse to be yelled at ANY more. I get paid to be yelled at all day sometimes, I am NOT coming home to it.

I mean I will thank him and reward him for not yelling and I get he hurts all over, but if he can NOT yell at the 7-11 clerk, he can NOT yell at me.

Extinguishing a behavior with a kid is super easy, you got the POWAH, but with an adult it's more annoying. However, the time has come. I have two goals: die happy in Douglas and b) not get yelled at for having thoughts, feelings and the desire to discuss them with my life partner which appears to need some FOCUSED inattention before he gets here for reals.

He was doing well; he is decompensating. It will stop. Otherwise, I'm getting a divorce. In the short term it will hurt worse, but I am DONE after today. I refuse to live like this. It's too.... STUPID.

Anna
 

stols001

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God if only the fake reality were actually TRUE.

Actually, you know I don't think so. Even if cigarettes gave me HEALTH POINTS like in whatever that horrible criminal video game about cars was they still like, stink! They kill your tastebuds.

I have a thought. Could we really just rename vaping SMOKING? COULD IT BE THAT EASY?

They're dumb we just need to talk about all the delicious Marlboros we are sucking down.

Anna
 
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