PTB Plug Full 510 Cart

[rhoneil]

UPDATE:

Just to let you know, the best way this 'Rho mod' is working for me is not NOT leaving a big hole in the middle. I will still roll it up with the inside tube of a pen but I think I'm going to start using something smaller like a tooth pick. The bigger the hole is in the middle the easier it is to drip into but it also has a greater tendency to leak. Getting e-juice in this material is not difficult, as I have found. Instead of letting the drop fall on to the top I am touching the drop to a corner and letting it seep in. It goes in easy and fast. The only thing you need to worry about is over filling but waiting a split second between 'touch drops' you will see pooling when it gets full.

hope this helps

rho

 

[lrlawson]

Without a doubt this is my favorite PTB mod.. Much thanks to the inventor/inventors.

 

[Dale.s]

One thing ive noticed with this mod thats great, and bad at the same time. You go from the "just filled" throat hit, the to "totally empty" burnt taste in one drag. When you look at the cart due to the liquid soaking to the top so easy, it ALWAYS looks full. Its good practise to add drops every once in a while and not wait for the vapor dropoff, it just dosnt happen!

 

[Sar]

I am using the 510 version of Prodigy which goes through eliquid faster than when used with regular battery, so I normally always top off. What I found is that I am able to top off with 9-10 drops with the Rho Mod without getting any eliquid into my mouth. Anything more than that and I am sure to suck in some liquid. Is that what people mean when they talk about leaking, that the eliquid leaks into the mouth?

Still, 9-10 drops is is about twice as much as I was able to top off with the straw mod, so it is well worth it.

One other thing: I saw the instructions for cleaning the filler. Why do you need to clean it and what happens if you don't clean it?

 

[rhoneil]

I am using the 510 version of Prodigy which goes through eliquid faster than when used with regular battery, so I normally always top off. What I found is that I am able to top off with 9-10 drops with the Rho Mod without getting any eliquid into my mouth. Anything more than that and I am sure to suck in some liquid. Is that what people mean when they talk about leaking, that the eliquid leaks into the mouth?

Still, 9-10 drops is is about twice as much as I was able to top off with the straw mod, so it is well worth it.

One other thing: I saw the instructions for cleaning the filler. Why do you need to clean it and what happens if you don't clean it?

There are some people that clean PTB every day. I dont but I have heard that wicking is better on new or clean PTB. I have about 5-6 carts with this mod and I clean them about once a week.

rho

 

[Dark Angel]

i clean my ptb's every couple days. i vape pretty heavy and seems like after a day or so vape production goes down from getting gunked up. i just rinse then under some warm water and dry them off and they are ready to go like new again

 

[Sar]

Thanks. I'll give cleaning a try after about a week to see if there is any difference.

 

[meir]

I've been using this mod about a week now and it's great. I had some problems with it not springing up and touching the filter to I tried cutting half of it off below the fold on one side and rolling it up so it goes down around the sides and I put a pen spring in the middle, needs some work but feedback would be appreciated.

 

[rhoneil]

Yes, I and others have found that after the cart has been on the atomizer for a little while with this mod, the middle tends to cave a little and cradle, if you will, the atomizer bridge. I dont think this is a bad thing. Well as long as the sides stay where they are creating a funnel type shape. I feel it may be helping in two ways.
One: the sides help keep the middle from falling deeper into the cart. I have tried PTB plugs in the past that only sat on top of the cart. The problem with that and one of the reasons why I started using this mod is because the bridge kept pushing the whole plug deeper into the cart than I wanted. With the 'Rho mod' only the middle is pushed down.
Two: With only the middle pushed down, the other rings have an opportunity to make contact with the atomizer bridge.

This all will only happen if the final roll is loose enough to have the flexibility to shape around the atomizer bridge and, I think, there are frays on the bottom allowing the middle to be pushed down some what independently.

As always, there is no 'one right way' to do it. If it works better for you with a tight roll or if you decide to create a little funnel shape then cut the bottom or whatever GREAT as long as it works. If something does not work, please let us know so we can see what we can do. I am really interested in the spring idea. If you have a pic please share and report how its working out for you. I guess my only concern would be too much pressure to the atomizer bridge. I have put things in my carts that have literally scraped off the material of the atty bridge. But as long as you do not intend on twisting too much or if there is not too much pressure on the bridge I'm all for those in trying it.

I am still using the double folded (etc) mod with great success. I am enjoying the taste of my e-juices so much now that I have ordered about 7 different flavors from Nhaler.com to try.

rho

thanks for the post
vap on!

 

[tiiams]

I have beed using this mod for a week, and I love it i get to vap all the e liquid except very little drop or less, I went though 2 mods in a 12 hr shift 18 drops per. not bad at all.

All my 510 cart have this mod I get no leakage, I think the key is the folds and having a wicking seal at the top but not too tight or too lose.

I also get alot of vapor, a good thing I use more juice cause i vap more, but it is still cheaper and better for me, and everyone around me.

 

[SudokuGal]

Guess what? Cignot is now selling 510 empty carts with PTB!!! Would love to know how they've rolled/folded them.

 

[rhoneil]

Guess what? Cignot is now selling 510 empty carts with PTB!!! Would love to know how they've rolled/folded them.

Kinda makes me wonder how much I would pay for a couple of empty carts with 'rho mods'

 

[DC2]

Not sure if people know this or not, but I read in some thread that nylon tulle is supposedly what the pyramid tea bags are made from, and you can buy tons of it for a few bucks.

 

[rhoneil]

Not sure if people know this or not, but I read in some thread that nylon tulle is supposedly what the pyramid tea bags are made from, and you can buy tons of it for a few bucks.

Yes I started looking for that yesterday. I think it would be especially good for people with thinner liquid consistency. With the ribbon you will be able to put more or less material as needed. May need to take a run to Michaels.

 

[Nestran]

Method for getting more juice to the atty when it is getting low, I shake the ecig, similar to packing a pack of analogs but without impacting into anything. 3 or 4 shakes gets you a few more hits.

I only do this if I am getting ready to change flavors or find myself without juice nearby. Otherwise I just top it.

Rock-N-Rho !!

Nestran

 

[callousparade]

dunno if this is why, but i've been rockin the same atty for 5 weeks now using this mod
not the slightest change in vapor or throat hit
going for 8 weeks, good goal, very attainable... hah

 

[rhoneil]

dunno if this is why, but i've been rockin the same atty for 5 weeks now using this mod
not the slightest change in vapor or throat hit
going for 8 weeks, good goal, very attainable... hah

I switch back and forth between 4-5 attys. So its hard to tell how long they last. Plus, I clean them periodically. Here's hoping they will last me (all together) 4-6 months or more. One thing I have noticed is that (for great taste, vapor and throat hit) its good to either make new ones or simply clean them once in a while. The last one I cleaned I did not even unroll it. Just pulled out, rinsed in hot water paper towel dry, put it back in and filled. Brings back everything.

Another thing I have noticed after reviewing one of my old videos is that, for me, this mod works best when the outside roll is slightly taller than the cart. In one of my experiments I ripped the material off my atty bridge. I was messing around with it figuring that I will just use it to drip. I drilled a hole in one of my carts to drip without having to take the cart off but I wanted to make sure that the liquid went right into the side of the bridge. Long story short (too late) I have a tiny metal rod (from network cable) that runs from the bottom of the cart to the side of the atty bridge. In making this 'rod' i realized how little space there is between the top of the cart and the bottom of the atty. Now knowing this I realize just how much this mod is surrounding the whole atty bridge and if I make the mod just a little taller than the cart I am pretty much filling the atty with PTB. Because we have the spiral design the outside stays tall while the inside rolls collapse to the pressure of the bridge.

I know this mod is not for everyone. I wish the rolls I make were consistent since we know that its best when its not too tight and not too loose. But If it is a roll that I thing may leak I just put less juice. Still, I'd rather have the choice between 20 and 17 drops knowing that I am going to use most of it rather than the usual 10-12 or even less and using half.

thoughts?

rho

 

[Abyss]

Well, I did the mod 2 days ago. And, holy smokin' Mary, is this da [shizzle]!

Great vapor, even better taste, more pronounced. Lasts alot more and is even nicer to look at.

BUT...

Well I cannot get it consistent either. I did 4 single folded, rolled, frayed PTBs, and 2 double folded. I think other than a little harder draw on the double folded, there isn't any difference.

Also for no apparent reason, randomly any of those carts will flood the atomizer big time! I don't know why - it just happens. I always manage to top off with the same 8-9 drops, and that's it. Why does it flood, is a mystery to me.

I thing I would suggest is: make the fold uneven - smaller on the end that is going to be in the center when rolled. That way you can compensate on the atty pushing it back.

Rho, any tips on the flooding? Do I leave a "straw" in the senter?

 

[rhoneil]

Well, I did the mod 2 days ago. And, holy smokin' Mary, is this da [shizzle]!

Great vapor, even better taste, more pronounced. Lasts alot more and is even nicer to look at.

BUT...

Well I cannot get it consistent either. I did 4 single folded, rolled, frayed PTBs, and 2 double folded. I think other than a little harder draw on the double folded, there isn't any difference.

Also for no apparent reason, randomly any of those carts will flood the atomizer big time! I don't know why - it just happens. I always manage to top off with the same 8-9 drops, and that's it. Why does it flood, is a mystery to me.

I thing I would suggest is: make the fold uneven - smaller on the end that is going to be in the center when rolled. That way you can compensate on the atty pushing it back.

Rho, any tips on the flooding? Do I leave a "straw" in the senter?

To me, "flooding" the atty means I no longer get the crackling sound and get more of a coffee maker sound that sometimes leads to no sound and no vapor. This has only happened to me if I put way too much juice (full cart AND 4-5 drops in the atty). The only time I did that was when I was cleaning the atty and didnt know how much to put back in it to get it working again.

[side note: to fix this, I usually just isolate the atty and blow into the bridge side removing the liquid out the side that goes to the battery. Make sure you catch the liquid into a napkin or something (could get messy.) I do this until I no longer get a gurgling sound while blowing. Then I can put a full cart with the rho mod and it works fine.]

In my opinion, the best way to avoid flooding in this case (where it does not matter how much juice you put in, it still floods) is using the double fold and not leaving a big hole in the middle. I know its nice to have when topping off so you dont get so much bubbles but I found that even with the "straw" (hole) left in the middle you still get bubbles, just not as soon. What I do now is a touch drop. I get a drop on the end of the dropper then touch the tall-outside roll of the rhoPTB mod. This way I can still see how many drops I put in and because the middle part of the mod is lower you can see when it starts filling.

i hope this helps and let me know if it does not or if you have any other questions

rho

 

[Nestran]

If I experience flooding, I just hold it with the cart down for the next few hits. this is what I normally do every time I top off anyhow. After a few hits I start to hold it battery down. Then, if I'm not near juice and getting dry, I do the "pack the analog" movement (just the movement, don't actually impact anything) to shake some juice down to the atty.

Nestran