Public Vapeing

[motorcity57]

I agree with everything this person says about public vapeing
An Open Letter to the Person Smoking Their E-Cigarette Indoors
I would like to hear your view?

 

[Smann245]

Vapeing inside public places is just begging for laws against it to be passed. Then we can only hope the laws stop there. I vape and it pisses me off when I see others doing it in walmart or wherever. Keep giving non vapers the finger and the politicians will give you theirs.

 

[AzPlumber]

I agree be respectful of others especially in a restaurant. Just as the article pointed out, I like to eat without smelling perfume from wait staff or other customers or other offensive odors. I'm sure the smell of vaping interferes with others trying to enjoy their meal.

 

[skoony]

i have decided that i am going to make it my personal crusade against non-smokers to
annoy them as much as i can for as long as i can.

when the FDA hands the e-cig industry over to BT and we are all out in the rain with our
brethren still smokers i will have many fond memories to look back on while being looked
down on again as another inferior sub set of humanity.

regards
mike

 

[eratikmind]

Not having read the attached link, I have always vaped, as I have smoked. I abide by all of the existing and current smoking regulations.

 

[ItTechy]

I read the article, and it's a simple rule:

Respect others space!

I don't want cigarette smoke wafting into my face any more than I want to smell raspberry cinnamon-grape danish or some other concocted gross smelling odor!

While I feel it a personal freedom to vape, as I did smoke, I do not want to offend others in close quarters.

There is no need to be obnoxious, or to force anything....

If I vape indoors, it is where it is accepted.

If I go out to eat, or for that matter in any public place I tend to not want to draw attention to myself by blowing clouds of vapor, as people do not know the difference.

Eventually there will be enough ordinances and laws regarding it!

Like I have said in many posts, unless we vote out the maroons running this country they will ultimately ruin this country while we all sit by!

 

[ItTechy]

i have decided that i am going to make it my personal crusade against non-smokers to
annoy them as much as i can for as long as i can.

when the FDA hands the e-cig industry over to BT and we are all out in the rain with our
brethren still smokers i will have many fond memories to look back on while being looked
down on again as another inferior sub set of humanity.

regards
mike

The only thing we can "hope" for is that there are enough well informed, and educated people that work together to keep vaping from the many regulations that could affect it.

Nicotine is not a product of tobacco, it is a by-product, and can be manufactured synthetically, thus removing tobacco completely from the picture, but it will take well educated, well informed people to keep it from becoming a highly regulated industry (vaping) or at least the e-liquids for vaping.

Again, as I have said countless times, exercise your rights though whom you vote into office, and keep in office!

 

[DrMA]

Utter garbage! Poor freelance writer can't enjoy his coffee because of the faint and fleeting bubblegum flavor wafting over from the vaper nearby. What a bunch of whiny hogwash! What's next? We're gonna start whining that we can't enjoy our restaurant meal because of the fat or ugly person at the next table?

Please! Living in society means we're constantly exposed to minor harmless annoyances from others and it's our duty and the courteous thing to do to move past it and realize that many things we do might annoy others. And others might write a whiny open letter about us wearing sandals with socks or brown shoes with black suit pants and they'd be laughed at as well.

 

[Davey59]

Ya know, there are behaviors, activities I find offensive and disgusting, bad bad smells, sounds and just things I don't want to look at or even hear about.

Not being a complaining whiney little girl and having a deep rooted love for freedom I have NO desire to attempt to bend people to my will, I just live and let live.

 

[Jman8]

Dear Ms. Lower,

I really dislike your attitude and wish to issue a challenge that I'm genuinely interested in putting into action whenever you are game.

You say this water vapor smells terrible. Like how fog smells terrible? Anyway, my challenge would be to have me stand 8 feet behind you in a place of your choosing and I will vape (or not vape) a flavor of my choosing. My position claims you will never ever be able to detect the smell, and hence I strongly believe you are basing your perception of terrible smell on looks alone, or in reality, not on smell at all.

To say vaping indoors around people in enclosed spaces is like eating garlic before boarding a 10 hour flight, is IMO equal to saying all persons who speak or even whisper in public spaces are akin to walking into a local library with a megaphone. Therefore, everyone stop talking in public, because it is rude.

Vaping indoors is, in reality, like literally everything else humans do when out in public. All of what humans do in public could potentially annoy another person, could lead to strange physiological reactions in a small few, and can be done with intent to annoy or be rude. Most vapers, like myself, I believe will vape in public with respect and consideration for those around us. A few vapers will not.

I agree that you are not being completely unreasonable. Just mostly unreasonable, and am glad to instigate my challenge whenever you desire.

Respectfully,
Jman

 

[Smann245]

The only thing we can "hope" for is that there are enough well informed, and educated people that work together to keep vaping from the many regulations that could affect it.

Again, as I have said countless times, exercise your rights though whom you vote into office, and keep in office!

Yeah, good luck. Look at the laws and regulations enacted over the last 100 years and tell me how much money you want to bet on logic and facts prevailing. And on Election Day your voting options have already been determined. We're at risk enough already. Vapeing where smoking is prohibited is a poor and selfish decision.

 

[Smann245]

For the record, the author of the linked article is a whinny little {Moderated} that can {Moderated}. It's still dumb to skyline yourself.

 

[Papa_Lazarou]

To be fair, the article was posted in the etiquette section. In that regard, it's about being "nice", not about human rights, and I would tend to agree that blowing vapor at strangers in a confined indoor space could be construed as rude.

She's also not suggesting that vaping should be regulated, only that we should take care.

The fact that she seems to denounce all vapor as smelling obnoxious (and therefore, all vapers as being obnoxious) is heavy handed, though, and to take a shot at "ridiculous holsters" simply undermines her position. She didn't feel the need to add that the garlic eating offender was wearing silly pants, for instance.

What I think is interesting, is that at least some of us are picking up a veiled threat in the piece. The tl;dr of the letter is: don't vape near me, you look ridiculous and your days are prolly numbered.

 

[Jcdew67]

I hate the smell of coffee, I shouldn't have to smell it while trying to eat,does this mean you should stop drinking coffee because you are disrespecting someone? I hate the smell of stinky perfume or cologne, does that mean you should leave or not wear any since it offends a customer? There are lots of smells and someone is always going to dislike it. As for respect,it is a two way street. I don't like a person just standing in the middle of a shopping isle when I go through trying to shop either or being so loud but I get over it.
As long as a vaper isn't blowing it right into someone's space then that is respect by the vaper.

 

[DoubleEwe]

Whilst I do not want to be sitting in a restaurant and have different smelling vapour wafting over as I dine, I have to say that there are far worse things which mar the dining experience.

If the wafts of smelly vapour are the reason to ban either the perpetrator or the e-cigarettes themselves, then they should also equip each seat in the restaurant with microphones. The microphones allow 'trumpers' to be identified and also be ejected from the establishment, as they are a far more noxious polluter of the restaurant atmosphere and far more likely to put me off my food.
'Trumps' also linger for longer than vapour does and only comes in unsavory 'flavours'.

Other 'smell producers' should also bear the brunt of the anti-vaping laws, such as those with constant BO, bad breath, old people (musty smell), babies with soiled diapers...

 

[stevegmu]

Equating vaping to anything else is silly and pointless. We live in a society which has demonized smoking; thus making things which look like smoking also taboo. Had vaping begun before smokers became pariahs to the majority of the general population, things would be different. As it is, don't expect to be able to vape in public where smoking is not allowed.

 

[Davey59]

Equating vaping to anything else is silly and pointless. We live in a society which has demonized smoking; thus making things which look like smoking also taboo. Had vaping begun before smokers became pariahs to the majority of the general population, things would be different. As it is, don't expect to be able to vape in public where smoking is not allowed.

Though pragmatic it does not diminish the ignorant whiny pantywaist busy body attitude one iota.

Not sure about a comparison being silly, might not do any good because you can't beat intelligence into an idiot but that is the fault of the idiot, not the other way around.

 

[Jman8]

The tl;dr of the letter is: don't vape near me, you look ridiculous and your days are prolly numbered.

I understand the last point, but disagree with it. If you vape in public with respect and consideration, you'll be able to do it forever. If it was against the law, the law would be easy to get around in both my opinion and experience. And is the sort of law that, IMO, demands being violated. I realize that sort of comment could open a can of worms, but is a discussion that is always interesting on a vaping forum.

 

[Papa_Lazarou]

I understand the last point, but disagree with it. If you vape in public with respect and consideration, you'll be able to do it forever. If it was against the law, the law would be easy to get around in both my opinion and experience. And is the sort of law that, IMO, demands being violated. I realize that sort of comment could open a can of worms, but is a discussion that is always interesting on a vaping forum.

If you disagree with it, you're disagreeing with her, not me, for the record.

My point was just that her writing things like "you need all the good will you can get" seemed to imply that we're on a kind of social (and perhaps legal) probation.

 

[stevegmu]

Though pragmatic it does not diminish the ignorant whiny pantywaist busy body attitude one iota.

Not sure about a comparison being silly, might not do any good because you can't beat intelligence into an idiot but that is the fault of the idiot, not the other way around.

Justifying one thing based on another never works.