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eddiea

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I would like to write an open letter....

To all parents who bring their small children into fine dining establishments and cafes, and allow them to run all over the place screaming like banshees, then subjecting every patron in the place to ear-piercing tantrums and snot bubbles when they're made to sit in their seats and eat a meal. Your inability to effectively parent is interfering with my dining experience.

To the people who's religion or personal code of ethics prohibits the use of deodorant, your body odor is interfering with the aroma of my freshly brewed espresso shot. As you may or may not know, the true art of drinking espresso is to invoke all senses. It's a very spiritual experience, and having the scent of armpit up my nose just ruins it for me.

To the gentlemen in bars who fart with reckless abandon, thinking the loud music will obfuscate their ... orchestra, I may not have heard it, but I smelled it, and the noxious fumes curdled the cream in my White Russian.

To people on airplanes who....oh hell, there's just not enough space on here to write that one....

I don't have a huge sense of entitlement, an axe to grind, a point to prove or a bra to burn, therefore I will never subject you to my chocolate mint vapor in confined places, but wouldn't it be nice if everyone in the world was that considerate?

Well said I must say!
 

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As a former smoker, I still disliked smelling other people's smoke nor did I like people smelling like smoke. Although the smell of cigarettes no longer exists with vaping, I treat vaping as if I were smoking a cigarette by being considerate of others around me, and I would expect others to do the same as well. Vape on.
 

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Respectful vaping is, how you say, easy schmeasy.

Well, I would say easy, not easy schmeasy. My mom passed away recently and we went to the funeral home to make the arrangements. While my sister and dad went into talk to the funeral director, I went in to look at caskets in what I thought was the selection room. I thought it would be funny if I hopped in, closed the lid and then scared by sister by popping out when she and my dad came to check it out. When I closed the lid it locked but I didn't think much of it because despite being a coffin, it was really really comfy so it wasn't a bad place to take a short nap. I woke up to the rolling of the coffin thinking it had only been a few minutes but it was actually 3 hours later. The only light I had was the light of my DNA 30 so I started puffing thinking "This is it! I'm gonna scare the crap out of her!" She's one of those fainters who soils themselves easily so we all get a kick out of, well, scaring her and making her faint and soil herself. So I started taking mega hits on my quad coil 30 watt set up and it's so dense in this coffin I can barely even see the LED's on my mod when all of a sudden the casket opens , I sat up in the fog like a spring and said "Welcome to the undead!" I hear screams, then a couple of thuds and people running around in a panic. When the fog cleared I see this old lady and this old priest laying on the floor, both soiling themselves and I realize I'm in a funeral service, not the show room. Turns out the funeral home grabbed the wrong casket and wheeled me into a service by mistake. I hopped out of the casket and snuck away while the funeral home staff hit the old lady and priest with a portable defibrillator. It was in the local paper the next week! I told my dad and sister about it on the way home and they thought I was a jerk but I know my mom would have laughed. She thought I was funny.
 
I try to follow laws as they are applicable to smoking, as to try and preserve vaping in it's current minimally restricted nature. Once [if] laws are passed to further restrict it [vaping], I will not be too worried as I already follow them for the most part-

Except vaping in the bathroom on a plane flight recently; I just had to do it. But I took the couple hits into my lungs and held them there and barely exhaled anything.

I don't go around blowing vapor in peoples faces and in groups of non or ex-smokers I try to blow my clouds away from them out of respect for other human beings/friends/acquaintances.

I vape in my apartment and my roommates (I have mentioned this before, in other threads, but repeat here cause it applies), one a non-smoker and the other an ex-smoker, both don't give two hoots about the vaping. Funny enough, the NON-smoker actually likes the smell of my vapor and encourages me vaping indoors as it leaves a pleasant aroma.

----- Though this is where it gets me with people in public who bicker about the smell or the cloud- I think they are just doing it to complain about something. But whatever. People will do that in society, and I will choose to accept it, and respect them. I guess I am just lucky to have cool room mates.
 

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I'm still getting used to not being able to smoke in the restaurants I frequent and other places that I used to smoke at. I don't like it but I have adapted to what it is. I really like sitting at the table smoking before and after my meals (in the smoking sections of course) but I have to abid by the law as do all of us. Of course nothing is keeping me from stepping outside to smoke, smoking in my vehicle, or smoking in my home.

I suppose if I was a non smoker or non vapor I might not like others smoking or vaping around me. That's called common sense and having abit of respect for others space. Now, it may be true that there's no written law about vaping yet however many places have put restrictions on vaping in their establishments. Some places like bars even have signs reading vapers are welcome and some may want you to step outside. I don't see a need to force my vaping on others or to take it out and vape at the mall or Walmart, or the grocery store just because I think I can or wait until someone kicks me out, or asks me to stop. If your out and unsure what the proper etiquette is stop yourself for a minute, use your head, and ask the manager or owner of the place if they allow it. We live in a society, everything isn't about you or what you want, try thinking of others.

Chances are with the way things are going if you can't smoke at a certain place you probably can't vape either and if your not sure then ask. It's not a difficult concept and will make everyone's' life eaiser.

If your like the other poster who's just out to piss people off by sticking it their face every chance you get because you think you have some right to vape everywhere then perhaps you'll understand that if they ban all public vaping your probably the reason why.
 
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sub4me

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i have decided that i am going to make it my personal crusade against non-smokers to
annoy them as much as i can for as long as i can.

when the FDA hands the e-cig industry over to BT and we are all out in the rain with our
brethren still smokers i will have many fond memories to look back on while being looked
down on again as another inferior sub set of humanity.
:D
regards
mike

A perfect example of disrespect.
 

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I'm one of those people who was fortunate enough to live thru more civilized times when you could smoke in the mall, in restaurants, in the office, on airplanes... Those places were taken away from us by hysterical whiners just like the author of the article in the OP. At the same time we've been demonized, insulted, and disrespected and now we're expected to pretend that's ok and accept our own marginalization as "courtesy" to the same hysterical whiners that caused it. Absurd!

I must disagree with some of what you posted. It was not civilized to smoke in the places that you mentioned. Although I agree with the rest of your post. Smokng in enclosed places is hazerdous to others around you. Not to mention the nasty film smoking leaves over every surface and the lingering stale smell that is almost impossible to get rid of.

My problem with the article that OP posted is the following~ "it smells like a synthetic blend of sugar-free butterscotch candies and diacetyl"

I think that the diacetyl issue has been addressed and handled by reputable companies.
Also was there ever proof that is was harmful via second hand vape? I really do not recall.
So that little sentence was ignorant and showed the bias of the writer. Personally I do not need ettiquette lessons from some stuck up ill informed writer. If that lecture needed to be given then it probably needs to be given in a different venue than time magazines site.
 

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While I somewhat agree with the underlying sentiment of the article, I don't want vapor clouds in my face while I'm eating either, I disagree with the method involved here. This society has become so passive aggressive that people have forgotten that you can talk to other people. If the person next to you is blowing clouds and it bothers you, ask them, politely, to stop.

I was at Walmart tonight, and at some of the registers they have double registers, so two lines are going through a fairly tight space. Well, a woman's cart was blocking the space so people couldn't get to the other register. I saw one person go all the way around the registers to get to the cashier, and then the next person picked their stuff out of their cart and carried it past the blocked space(leaving their cart in the aisle), then FINALLY someone asked the woman to move her cart, which she did.

We don't need rules and regulations to respect each other. If you're a vaper, be respectful in your vaping, and if you're out and about and something bothers you, speak up.

I agree with your post. It is ridiculous that people can no longer politely interact with others.
I am not that shy. I am not afraid to talk to other people.

I have to agree witth CdnDiva as well. I cannot stand screaming bratty children in restaurants.
Or the grocery store.
 

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I agree with your post. It is ridiculous that people can no longer politely interact with others.
I am not that shy. I am not afraid to talk to other people.

I have to agree witth CdnDiva as well. I cannot stand screaming bratty children in restaurants.
Or the grocery store.

Well, I have a toddler... she's not bratty, but she does scream in public at times. If I'm at a restaurant I'll take her outside or into the bathroom if she gets out of hand, because that's the polite thing to do.
 

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Well, I have a toddler... she's not bratty, but she does scream in public at times. If I'm at a restaurant I'll take her outside or into the bathroom if she gets out of hand, because that's the polite thing to do.

Yes! That is what one should do! Hubby and I have 4 children. One who is severly autistic and even he learned to behave in public.
Anyways back on topic!

I do think that vapors, smokers and parents should all try to be considerate to others.
 

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I will stop (stealth) vaping in public on the day when every cell phone user, without exception, stops talking at extreme volume in crowded public places, in conversations about highly personal issues that should NOT be shared with strangers ... :confused: :mad:

Until that day comes, I will continue to do what any rational person would, and that is to distance myself, if possible, from the offender ... :2cool:

Its a rare human being who will respond positively to behavioral advice from a stranger. Mother Theresa, perhaps, but no one that I've ever met ... :laugh:
 

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Problem is we now live in a society were some think are entitled.

Vapers are also entitled to the same consideration I see advocated here for non-vapers. Instead we get demonized, marginalized, and controlled. They don't ask courteously we stop vaping. They demand it and wag their fingers, make threats and insults. Thus they deserve no courtesy in return. When they stop the disgusted contempt they show vapers, I'll consider extending them similar courtesy. Until then I refuse to be marginalized by prejudice and will continue to defy unjust rules.
 

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Vapers are also entitled to the same consideration I see advocated here for non-vapers. Instead we get demonized, marginalized, and controlled. They don't ask courteously we stop vaping. They demand it and wag their fingers, make threats and insults. Thus they deserve no courtesy in return. When they stop the disgusted contempt they show vapers, I'll consider extending them similar courtesy. Until then I refuse to be marginalized by prejudice and will continue to defy unjust rules.

Wow... Sounds like you have Run Into some Hard Core Individuals.
 

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Vapers are also entitled to the same consideration I see advocated here for non-vapers. Instead we get demonized, marginalized, and controlled. They don't ask courteously we stop vaping. They demand it and wag their fingers, make threats and insults. Thus they deserve no courtesy in return. When they stop the disgusted contempt they show vapers, I'll consider extending them similar courtesy. Until then I refuse to be marginalized by prejudice and will continue to defy unjust rules.

I've seen many people vaping in public places where their not supposed to be vaping however I've never seen the extreme behavior in your post. Most people just ignore them. The only time I saw any action taken was when some dumb teen along with his friends were in the restaurant blowing giant plumes next to a family and the waitress told them they couldn't vape there. He then started ranting about its not smoking and just vapor and kept doing it. They were then told to leave. They did leave but one kept up the rude behavior of blowing giant plumes all the way out the door.

This is not the image of vaping I want anything to do with however it is happening and it's not good for us.
 
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I was at my favorite restaurant enjoying a vape with my Americano coffee between courses and someone loudly complained to the waiter that I was smoking. I was 3-4 tables away in a large, well-ventilated space. The waiter explained to the complainer that vaping is not smoking and is allowed. The complainer wasn't satisfied, so asked to see a manager, who explained to the complainer that vaping is allowed, even though we were in the non smoking section. The non smoking section is the inside of the restaurant, as opposed to the terrace, which allows smoking. As it was hot out, I sat inside. The manager apologized to me for the trouble...
 

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I've seen many people vaping in public places where their not supposed to be vaping however I've never seen the extreme behavior in your post. Most people just ignore them. The only time I saw any action taken was when some dumb teen along with his friends were in the restaurant blowing giant plumes next to a family and the waitress told them they couldn't vape there. He then started ranting about its not smoking and just vapor and kept doing it. They were then told to leave. They did leave but one kept up the rude behavior of blowing giant plumes all the way out the door.

This is not the image of vaping I want anything to do with however it is happening and it's not good for us
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That's Ironic.

Because I saw the Complete Opposite about two weeks ago.

I had just been seated with a Friend for a Late Lunch at a Non-Chain Restaurant. Across the room was a pair of Middle Aged Women who's waiter was picking up their Plates.

After the Waiter left, one of them pulled what looked like a Vamo/Clearo out of Her purse and casually took a hit off it. She took a couple of more as they talked and waited for their check. She Wasn't Blowing huge clouds. Or trying to Hide it. Just taking some hits off a Clearo.

As they were talking, the Manager walked up to their table and said "I'm Sorry. But you must not have seen the sign that said there is No e-Cigarette use in the Dinning Room. If you would like, you can move to the Patio?"

The one who was Vaping just smiled and said something like, "No, that won't be necessary." And she put her Vamo back in her purse. The Manager said something else that I couldn't hear. But they Both Laughed. And the Manager walked away Smiling.

The Waiter came and gave them their Check. They argued over who was going to pay. The Vaper finally won and put some cash in the Tray. The Water Took it, brought the Change, and the Vaper said that the change was for him. He did do that Thank You when a Waiter gets a Big Tip. The two sat and Talked for about 10 more minutes. Got Up, and left.

No Drama. No Scene. Just Two people having Lunch.
 
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