QUESTION: What do you use to vaporize your liquid??? I can't find a fit for me yet.

[MikeB]

The plastic taste from the Nova is well documented. The coil and legs going to connector are the same wire. The legs get hot just like the coil but they are dry and touching the seals in the connector (thats where burnt plastic taste comes from). If you make your own coil with non-resistance wire for the legs they won't get hot and problem is solved. The coils are made the same as you'd do with the Odysseus or Penelope. I have 2 Odys and 1 Pene. I use the Odys on new Provari, they are same diameter and shorter than the Pene. They seem really pricey at first but trust me, they are worth every cent. They are built solid and will last forever. You can make the coil exactly how you like it. There is a flow control for the juice so you can dial it in depending on wattage and juice PG/VG ratio. No dry hits, no flooding and no leaks. Just fill it, pop it on your mod, set the voltage and enjoy. I usually build a new coil once a week. I could probably go longer but I like fiddling and that the only chance I get now. These hit so hard I'm going with lower nic levels on next juice order. If you didn't watch the Ody video linked earlier here it is again:
REVIEW OF THE ODYSSEUS REPAIRABLE ATOMISER - YouTube

Just watched the vid. I love Scot's vids, always detailed. Anyway it was very informative, and honestly the process doesn't look that difficult. I'm sure it takes a bit of practice, but I'd be willing to bet it becomes second nature. I love that it has juice flow control and air flow control. Talk about tuning in your vape... that's amazing. I'm really going to have to think about it. I wonder if my wife will let me spend even more $$ on this new habit. lol.

Still, I'd like to know, in your opinion how do you think it compares to dripping?

 

[MikeB]

there is a surge tank
310Vapers.com | The Surge Tank v1.2 - Tanks - Accessories | e-Cigarette, eGo, 3VO, cartomizers, atomizers, batteries
which turns any mod into a bottom feeder, it's pretty bulky and you can see what it looks like on a provari in this video
REVIEW OF THE SURGE TANK FOR ELECTRONIC CIGARETTES - YouTube

it's kinda bulky and a little ugly imo, but aesthetics aside it's beautiful in function.

or you can get into the world of rebuildable tanks/attys with a vivi nova.

... don't know how I missed this post. Thanks for the info and another option. It seems very intriguing. I'll check out the vid and let you know what I think.

So you think it compares to dripping?

 

[unloaded]

I think the Ody is better than dripping. With dripping you can get the perfect hit, some like the first hit after adding drops while others like that last hit before its time to add drops. Whichever you prefer you are aiming at a moving target. With the liquid control you can set it how you like it and get the same results until the tank needs refilled. You can adjust the draw but not on the fly. It depends on how long the have the center pin exposed and you do that while putting the whole thing together. It might take a couple tries to find exactly where you want it but once you figure it out its easily reapeatable.

Scott had the V1 Ody in his video the new V2 is slightly different. The V2 has ceramic channel going down one side rather than both. This is where the positive wire runs to center post. The other side has metal channel, the negative wire lays in here, under the wick, making contact. You don't need to have the negative wire under the locking ring. The Penelope is setup the same as the V2 just taller and thinner. The Odys are all out of stock, you'll only be able to get one from Classifieds. You can pre-order the Penelope from COV. They should ship first part of next week. I haven't tried my Penelope yet, but they all say it hits harder than the Ody. The price seems high until you get it. Once you try it you'll realize you got the deal of the year. I've got some of the Vivi Nova's too and I can tell you they aren't 95% of an Ody, even after all of the tweaking.

GG Penelope - Tank Mod Only

 

[iamtumus]

... don't know how I missed this post. Thanks for the info and another option. It seems very intriguing. I'll check out the vid and let you know what I think.

So you think it compares to dripping?

absolutely, my housemate has one and it's like adding a reo onto any mod.
high quality aluminum and bottom feeding. put any 510/306 atty on it and it is dripping, just easier.

 

[MikeB]

I think the Ody is better than dripping. With dripping you can get the perfect hit, some like the first hit after adding drops while others like that last hit before its time to add drops. Whichever you prefer you are aiming at a moving target. With the liquid control you can set it how you like it and get the same results until the tank needs refilled. You can adjust the draw but not on the fly. It depends on how long the have the center pin exposed and you do that while putting the whole thing together. It might take a couple tries to find exactly where you want it but once you figure it out its easily reapeatable.

Scott had the V1 Ody in his video the new V2 is slightly different. The V2 has ceramic channel going down one side rather than both. This is where the positive wire runs to center post. The other side has metal channel, the negative wire lays in here, under the wick, making contact. You don't need to have the negative wire under the locking ring. The Penelope is setup the same as the V2 just taller and thinner. The Odys are all out of stock, you'll only be able to get one from Classifieds. You can pre-order the Penelope from COV. They should ship first part of next week. I haven't tried my Penelope yet, but they all say it hits harder than the Ody. The price seems high until you get it. Once you try it you'll realize you got the deal of the year. I've got some of the Vivi Nova's too and I can tell you they aren't 95% of an Ody, even after all of the tweaking.

GG Penelope - Tank Mod Only

Awesome! That's covers pretty much everything. I have to admit, I'm seriously considering one of these. One last thing, how long do the coils last before you have to rebuild? Also, what do you do about a backup? Say the coil dies for some odd reason while you are at work... do you carry spare parts to make another or do you just carry some Boges as a quick backup? (that's the thing I've discovered about switching to egics recently. I find I think about these things. With analogues I knew that every gas station everywhere had me covered, but not so with these ecigs... got to plan ahead)

 

[MikeB]

absolutely, my housemate has one and it's like adding a reo onto any mod.
high quality aluminum and bottom feeding. put any 510/306 atty on it and it is dripping, just easier.

Thanks!!! If I can use a 306, I'll be happy. It does look a bit wonky, so I might reserve it for home use, lol, and use a Penelope at work, but it is very intriguing. Awesome suggestion. Thanks a bunch.

 

[BuGlen]

AlmityPunx / genelman,
I have tried the Vivi and the CE2s and as Unloaded described, I just can't help but taste the plastic. Otherwise it's a great vape, I just wish they'd rework it with different wiring (like Unloaded suggested) or different wicks if that's the issue and fix them. They'd be perfect then. ... I haven't tried the CE3s or CE4s(stardusts), but I can't help but think they'll taste the same since the construction materials of the attys look identical and I have the same experience on both the Vivi and CE2s. I seem to be very sensitive to taste, and there are only a handful of juices I like (and I have a tackle box full).

Do you agree with my assessment, or do you still think the CE3s & 4s are worth a try?

If you weren't thrilled with the ViVi Nova, I'm pretty sure you won't like the CE4+ clearos either. Once I get through the ones I have I probably won't be getting any more.

The CE3s on the other hand (bottom coil design, aka the Phoenix) vape great with really good flavor and the only downsides are the limited juice capacity and the filling. However, if you carry a few of these with you already filled with your favorite juices, then it's not much of an issue.

Another affordable option you might want to try is the Kanger T2 clearo at Discount Vapers. I just got one this week, and it's been working great. Nice clean taste with no plastic or rubber hints in the flavor and very good vapor production at around 4.1V. It has replaceable heads at less than $2 a piece and the construction appears to be solid.

 

[iamtumus]

Thanks!!! If I can use a 306, I'll be happy. It does look a bit wonky, so I might reserve it for home use, lol, and use a Penelope at work, but it is very intriguing. Awesome suggestion. Thanks a bunch.

yeah my house mate uses it on an ego.
his combination is ugly as hell but an ego bottom feeder is fantastic.

 

[unloaded]

I haven't had a coil pop on me so I'm not sure how long they last. I usually change them on the weekend when I have time. Mainly do it because I'm used to fiddling with my gear, kind of a hobby. Now that I don't have a need to fiddle I make new coils just for something to do. I've got a LavaTube at home and one in my toolbox at work if I need backups. I carry an eGo case with me that has batts, the Ody i'm not using, two juice bottles and 510 atty and carto. Haven't needed backup but I'd go bonkers after a few hours not being able to vape.

 

[MikeB]

...Haven't needed backup but I'd go bonkers after a few hours not being able to vape.

LOL.. I know the feeling. I just got a Cartomator Tank two days ago and figured I was "set" the next day for work, so I brought no backup stuff. I got nothing but dry hits all day and couldn't get it to start wicking. By the time I got home I was definitely going bonkers... NEVER going to go without backups again.

Anyway, thanks for all the info. It really helps. I think I'll pick up the Pene if I can talk the wife into it.

 

[MikeB]

Hey, I've been looking and I can't find a forum here at the ECF dedicated to rebildable/repairable attys like the Ody, Pene, DID, etc...

If I start a thread can I just put it in "General E Smoking"? .... I've had a lot of threads moved.

 

[classwife]

here ya go

Rebuildable Atomizer Systems

 

[TBinAZ]

... i hear good things but for me ive already dropped more money than i did smoking (ya i got a lil overboard with juices and mods) so i cant justify dropping that kind of cash on another system that will offer 95% as good for $75 less...

i may have to try one of those 305 attys though... never had much luck with dripping.

Ya know, is there really a 'price' on saving your life? Just sayin'

I'm a 'gear junkie' and am proud to be. Price is no object. Only desk space, and confusion are the hurdles... which tends to envelop me at times.

 

[Ezkill]

I have to admit, I'm seriously considering one of these. One last thing, how long do the coils last before you have to rebuild?

I've not had one pop yet so they last a good long time. I mean yea I'm sure at some point they go out but I've always changed them before one has a chance to go. If you change them once a week sort of thing you shouldn't have any reliability issues at all. I keep more Penelope's and Odysseus's as a backup though. You always need a backup even if it's some cheap carto's that you can pre-fill and throw in a drawer for emergencies.

Again the up front cost of a Penelope is not cheap and remember to take your 10% discount as well. There is a code below the order link for 10 percent off. However once you order your resistance wire and no resistance wire from whatever source and realize you are able to rebuild it for a lifetime with the 12 dollars you just spent, it's really not that bad.

 

[TBinAZ]

I've not had one pop yet so they last a good long time. I mean yea I'm sure at some point they go out but I've always changed them before one has a chance to go. If you change them once a week sort of thing you shouldn't have any reliability issues at all. I keep more Penelope's and Odysseus's as a backup though. You always need a backup even if it's some cheap carto's that you can pre-fill and throw in a drawer for emergencies.

Again the up front cost of a Penelope is not cheap and remember to take your 10% discount as well. There is a code below the order link for 10 percent off. However once you order your resistance wire and no resistance wire from whatever source and realize you are able to rebuild it for a lifetime with the 12 dollars you just spent, it's really not that bad.

I'm still mulling the rebuild supplies. Can you post some links to your go-to?

 

[MikeB]

here ya go

Rebuildable Atomizer Systems

Thanks a bunch!

 

[MikeB]

I'm still mulling the rebuild supplies. Can you post some links to your go-to?

Seconded. I'd also like to know this.

And what about the pre-built "Ready Wires" they offer for a dollar? Just one dollar a week doesn't seem like too much... if they are in stock, which they aren't at the moment.

 

[Ezkill]

30 GWA No resistance .999 silver wire .. you can find it on Amazon or Ebay.
32 or 34 GWA Kanthal or Nichrome wire can be found on Amazon or Ebay. I use 34 but i like a higher resistance coil. Use 34 if you want around 2.5-3.0 ohms, use 32 for 1.5-2.5 ohms kind of thing. This is personal preference.

Both of these items are just dollars for huge quantities. The pre-made wires are great but not often in stock. The wick is generally available but they come with 3 feet which will last you a long time. You can buy it from CoV when it's available again just put yourself on notify me. In a pinch you can use a lot of different stuff for wick so you will never be short. There is a giant thread on this board about wick materials and were to get them.

 

[MikeB]

30 GWA No resistance .999 silver wire .. you can find it on Amazon or Ebay.
32 or 34 GWA Kanthal or Nichrome wire can be found on Amazon or Ebay. I use 34 but i like a higher resistance coil. Use 34 if you want around 2.5-3.0 ohms, use 32 for 1.5-2.5 ohms kind of thing. This is personal preference.

Both of these items are just dollars for huge quantities. The pre-made wires are great but not often in stock. The wick is generally available but they come with 3 feet which will last you a long time. You can buy it from CoV when it's available again just put yourself on notify me. In a pinch you can use a lot of different stuff for wick so you will never be short. There is a giant thread on this board about wick materials and were to get them.

Thanks!! That sounds very, uh... economical! (sounds better than "cheap" lol)

 

[TBinAZ]

Seconded. I'd also like to know this.

And what about the pre-built "Ready Wires" they offer for a dollar? Just one dollar a week doesn't seem like too much... if they are in stock, which they aren't at the moment.

Here ya go. Rebuildable Atomizer Coils