To maintain accuracy you would need to add flavoring and probably do more math and end up overthinking it. Add as much of the existing flavoring as you dilute which is probably no more than a percent or two. Best to just take the time and experiment. I would add the pie ingredients and allow to steep a few days and re-test flavoring. If the banana cream seems lacking add .25-.50%. Up it slowly-testing each time until you reach desired taste. The amount of reduction in nic is so small you probably won't even realize its missing.Judging by the Optimistic ratings, I will assume no such calculator exists?
How do people modify their existing mixes? Or am I just thinking way too far outside the box? Which is entirely possible
You make 20ml, vape 1.5ml of that but feel the flavoring needs to be adjusted. How do you go about performing such task with a level of accuracy? Or you just change your mind with a recipe but wish to incorporate what you already made into something new. Example: I made a Banana Cream, but after sampling a bit of it I feel it would do better as a Banana Cream Pie. I wish to maintain my percentages but add the needed flavours to create the “pie” part.
Ok….working on a Excel calculator!
Let us know how it turns out.
I went ahead and ordered the other four flavors I wanted from bcf. I figured I may as well take advantage of the sale.
INW Biscuit, INW Shisha Vanilla, FLV Milk & Honey and TFA Dulce de Leche on order from BCV.
Thanks for the code, Fran. And the recipe !
Thanks for the code, Fran. And the recipe !
I didn't think anyone would be interested in some single flavor Hangsen tobacco mixes. Guess I should have asked. BTW Brett (Pawpa) makes some outstanding tobacco extracts.Wish I had known this, I have someone who only wants tobacco........
eta I meant to quote Fran originally, not sure how pawpaw's message got on instead there so redid post.
I think you're starting to slip down the rabbit hole,BrettINW Biscuit, INW Shisha Vanilla, FLV Milk & Honey and TFA Dulce de Leche on order from BCV.
Thanks for the code, Fran. And the recipe !
TFA Dulce de Leche?INW Biscuit, INW Shisha Vanilla, FLV Milk & Honey and TFA Dulce de Leche on order from BCV.
Thanks for the code, Fran. And the recipe !
I dug out an old Bill's Magic Vapor recipe. Milkshake base, have everything but that. But Bill loved to add flavors, his base is 26% alone, so I'll probably try to half each ingredient. All TFA, cut recipe in half ;
VBIC - 5%, Marshmallow - 2 1/2%, French Vanilla Deluxe - 2%, Sweetner - 1%, Dulce de Leche - 1%, Koolada - 0.5%.
I'll substitute the FV Deluxe with FV Creme, and probably add a little less Koolada.
Baut it's just another step down the rabbit hole, right ?
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Judging by the Optimistic ratings, I will assume no such calculator exists?
How do people modify their existing mixes? Or am I just thinking way too far outside the box? Which is entirely possible
You make 20ml, vape 1.5ml of that but feel the flavoring needs to be adjusted. How do you go about performing such task with a level of accuracy? Or you just change your mind with a recipe but wish to incorporate what you already made into something new. Example: I made a Banana Cream, but after sampling a bit of it I feel it would do better as a Banana Cream Pie. I wish to maintain my percentages but add the needed flavours to create the “pie” part.
Ok….working on a Excel calculator!
I'm new at DIY and was hoping someone was going to provide you a link that I could steal quietly.
I ran into a somewhat similar issue myself, wanted to cut PG level, keep ratio of one flavor, and add another flavor. I just did ratios in my head and ballparked that bad boy... I just have to remember to make notes on how I came about this concoction with all the unnecessary steps included. All the while hoping I make the same mathematical errors to achieve the same results. Fingers crossed it's a dud.
Yes he was a high flavor mixer because he would make his recipes for commercial vendors to make and sell the ejuice. Most of us using his mixes usually do reduce the % quite a bit.
The easiest way would be make a recipe with the new % and ingredients and compare with what you have already mixed(in other words let the calculator do the math parts). Both old and new recipes have to be same volume. Now compare each ingredient and figure the difference between the 2 recipes. That should help you without too much guessing on the mixers end of it.
Hint-- the volume of the bottle is the key.
I think there may be a paid calculator that does this.....but who wants to shell out more money when the solution is simple.....see my last post.
The nicotine isn’t so much of a concern, but it’s knowing the final percentage and how much you have deviated away from what you originally made. Plus there is knowing how much you have added for future reference. If I have 20ml of a completed mix, how do you add 5% of extra flavour while maintaining the percentage of the existing mix?
Quickly whipped this up using an existing calculator that I was working on in Excel (the left side). If I make adjustments to VG%, Flavour %, Nic and Volume, all the values will adjust accordingly. On the Modified side, we can see in order to maintain our original percentages the amount needs to be increased from 20ml to 34ml based on the added 8% of flavouring. This is reflected in green (ml) with it’s corresponding needed weight in the cell to the right. The added flavouring is in blue. Work in progress so please let me know if anyone spots an error or 2.
I'm going to give that a go with TFA caramel or Original Caramel in place of the Dulce de Leche. I'll do a small batch, though, just to be sure it's not too sweet for me.
As is often the case, there are more than one way to solve a problem. He asked about a calculator so since I think the one I use can do it, why not check with the expert (IDJoel)?
FWIW - the calculator is free. Personally, I love it and have been growing into it more over time. Yes, it took a bit to get my inventory in but even with a basic set up and not using all the features it's easy to track/sort my recipes. I started using more features over time, but you don't need to at the outset. I'm now putting the storage box location the flavor in to find them faster when I go to mix (I needed that as my stock of flavors has grown), reorder alerts and more. ELR and others are good other options for the inventory and recipes. The calculator has some nice tools to play with. Even if you don't use it for inventory/recipes, the tools come in handy sometimes.
I keep it open while I read this thread. I enter recipes into the calculator as I go along so I don't lose them and add missing flavors to my shopping list. Whatever works for you or anyone else is all good too.
That is a awful lot of pie flavoring if you asked me. I cannot imagine more that maybe 2% based on the volume of the bottle but you are increasing overall volume by 14 ml. That is almost half of a 30 ml recipe. Def not what I thought you wanted to do so maybe I mis-read what it was you actually wanted to accomplish.
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