Dolphins screwed up. Should have taken Herbert instead of Tua. I mean how on earth does someone watch the two of them workout and decide--"Let's take the guy who is always injured since high school!!"?
No, not you. I have beaten my spouse-- connect 4, monopoly, Rummy 500, and even that board game called Life. She was ...... when I told her I married Regina King in the game. We had a car full of kids too.
26 years, undefeated at Monopoly. Our youngest daughter finally beat me last year.
I still can't believe I can still fool them into thinking there are more than 2 blank tiles in Scrabble. If they just flipped them over and saw the letter on the other side my win streak would probably end.
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I'm so reluctant to step into this...but, why not.With respect...
Now you are conveniently trying to move the goalposts to include any hair-brained "alternative thing" for any disease. If someone claimed they were cured of a disease by eating a dog turd, or drinking the bleach, anyone with three functional brain cells would laugh.
This whole bunch of BS here was started by one person only, Borno, with his false claims about COVID-19 treatments. His claim for ivermectin as a treatment has been debunked by the men and women of science. I provided links which clearly supported that in my replies to his posts.
I, and several others here, noted that your choice was to single me out rather than call out the one who was spreading known false information. It is pretty weird that you, and two others, have done this to me on other occasions in this thread. Very strange indeed.
It has not escaped my attention, and many millions of others, that there is a group of people who only choose to subscribe to any actual proven science is when it suits their specific colored flag. Those in the USA who chose to politicize C-19 are well known around the world.
Now that you are attempting to move the goalposts to include "Covid, or cancer, or other diseases" are you referring to COVID-19 or "all of the above" in that statement?
If you recall the topic of discussion was specifically about COVID-19. If this is to be discussed at all then it should be kept to C-19. Don't move the goalposts.
The fact that you, and a few others, are missing is the greatest majority of professionals who work with viruses globally, virologists, are in agreement of "proper" treatments for C-19. And that certainly does include the approved vaccines. Which if taken by the dwindling minority this whole mess would have been very well under control by now in the USA. That is the scientific Fact as known and understood by the professionals (versus the backseat drivers).
No one person "here" tried to make any such determination. To make any attempt to say otherwise is utter and complete nonsense.
You, and those with similar beliefs, have offered zero proof to support your "claims". I offered widely recognized scientific data, with links, which debunked the senseless claim made here. That irritated you and a few others.
I would love to know exactly who these "highly qualified doctors and scientists" are that you are claiming don't agree on "proper" C-19 treatments. Just saying that on your part is a highly generalized statement.
Yes, the men and women of science, continuously make adjustments as they learn and then make new recommendations as time goes by. But, in the here and now of today, they are widely in agreement in their recommendations for proper C-19 treatment. Yes, there are outliers in the scientific community, however they are in a very small, but vocal, minority.
First, there is a difference between "treatment" and prevention. A vaccine is not a treatment. If it works, it is a prevention, not a treatment. JC was speaking about treatments.
Second, as you astutely pointed out, scientists "make adjustments".
But, those "adjustments" can include completely reversing widely held scientific positions. i can point you to theories of gravity (Newton vs Einstein) or evolution (Lamarck vs Darwin) and there are many others.
Anyone who has studied the history of science knows there is no such thing as "settled" science. I'm more than willing to debate the history of science with you.
Third, the "wide agreement" you spoke of is to a large extent a result of debate being stifled by the CDC/FDA for reasons unclear to me. Real physicians (meaning credentialed MDs) are increasingly reluctant to say much, because the medical establishment has made it clear that they can be unlicensed if they are public about anything except vaxes and thus lose their careers. I'll point you to the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (all MDs). Might make interesting reading for you. These MDs, in the thousands, do accept that there are treatments, not just vaccines.
Fourth, since you correctly appreciate the value of data, consider Israel. Where in the month of July (which is the last month's data i can find) five times the number of fully vaxed people tested positive versus the unvaxed.
I could go on, but I'm not sure it'll make any difference.
I do wish you well.
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I am of the belief that COVID has thrown a wrench in how things are normally done. We are coming up on 1 year in this battle.. 713K deaths kind of put a rush on bringing something to the table that slows the deadly progression down, some.
I assume things sometimes. If everyone was on board, got vaccinated, and quit complaining about wearing masks we'd be closer to a more positive outcome than we are seeing.
I am extremely pessimistic... and it has more to do with our populous than science. Here locally in the news recently an 8 year old boy had an appendicitis. It ruptured after 6 days and he nearly died. Why? He could not get a bed they were all taken by COVID patients.. In my very simplistic way of looking at things this is where we are failing.
Btw, I am not arguing with you. Just sharing thoughts...
I am up tonight for tornado watch... The sirens nearby have went off.. Our youngest just woke up scared. The next 45 minutes are concerning.
No I didn't. I don't tend to do that because I don't fancy ingesting concentrated artificial flavoring. Maybe there's no difference in that as compared to vaping it but I still have an aversion to it.
Maybe the spider monkey is climbing up the wrong tree
You may be interested in debating the history of science but you won’t do it in this thread. Once again, take it outside.
Hoping all is well.
We are okay. I almost got lucky last night....I think the whole alpha male on protection mode was a turn on for the wife.
Very glad to hear thatWe are okay. I almost got lucky last night....I think the whole alpha male on protection mode was a turn on for the wife.
but………almost?Very glad to hear that
It was me, not her...
Getting old sucks, jus saying... (sorry Unc, stole your line).
Good morning. Well, not really. I woke in the middle of the night with chills and then this morning was sweating. I don’t have a fever but think my cold may have turned into a sinus infection. I called in sick and am going to call my doctor as soon as they open.
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