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[FranC]

Don't be shy, ask her for the recipe.....

Your wish is my command...LOL. It's pretty simple. @MikeADore

Roasted Pecan Cookie
WF Roasted Pecan 3%
FA Cookie 1%
INW Biscuit .75%
FA Fresh Cream 1%

 

[FranC]

Good morning shiny folks. Yesterday went great, busy but good. I continue to feel better. Kinda glad all my flavoring is in Tucson though because all this flavor talk. LOL wouldn't mind a few extra hours in the day, but man, I do have to SLEEP.

Feeling pretty good and competent and all that, though.

Anna

That's wonderful news

 

[FranC]

Actually the Wonder Flavor Roasted Pecans and Cream can be a stand alone flavor. I will have to look at my notes to see at what % I mixed it with but I don't think it was very much. Maybe @FranC can answer it quick? So right there is most of the recipe anyway. LOL

Just something for you to ponder, if ya want.


Roasted Pecans & Cream-WF


eta I mixed mine as a standalone at 5% but it got a little heavy after a couple of months, so maybe at 4% would be better? It does need a steep of about 2 weeks.

It's too sweet for me as a single flavor so I tend to mix it with less sweet stuff.

 

[hittman]

I was thinking (dangerous, I know)... has anyone ever made their own one shots? I was thinking to conserve space, put the % of flavors for a 30 or 60 ml in a 10 ml bottle with base to steep, then add to the bigger bottle of just base when it’s ready. Or would super concentrated flavors in so little base effect the steeping?

I did that for some time except I didn't add the base. I just mixed all of the flavors in a 10ml bottle and then added it at whatever percentage I wanted of flavor total.

 

[FranC]

Updating “The List” is starting to look like a part time job . I always “think” I’ve about gotten everything I need... tell me the truth, that’s a mirage, isn’t it

Total mirage

 

[PJReid]

I like green/herby flavors. How are their prices?

Shisha Rosemary

I have ordered from them a time or two and can say that I hate the INW bottles they use. Other than that, they are pretty much like every other place on shipping. They run sales on holidays but I never really find enough there I want to make it worthwhile unless I need nic, PG, VG, etc. I will probably get some of the rosemary because I am interested to try it.

 

[FranC]

I was thinking (dangerous, I know)... has anyone ever made their own one shots? I was thinking to conserve space, put the % of flavors for a 30 or 60 ml in a 10 ml bottle with base to steep, then add to the bigger bottle of just base when it’s ready. Or would super concentrated flavors in so little base effect the steeping?

I'd be afraid it would confuse me...........

 

[NotSoMini]

This is what is known in the mixing world as a 'stone'. It is done all the time. I don't think it needs a base to steep, at least from what I read it only needs the flavors.



eta. Of course you can steep if saving time is also what you want. It worked well for my tests with the HA Italian Cream.

I fall into the confused category.

I always thought a One Shot included all the flavors required in a recipe sans nic, PG and VG. With a Stone, I will use a custard as an example, it has all the flavors for the custard only — not sure when the Nic, PG and VG is added but I think when the final ejuice is mixed. You can then take the Custard Stone and add others flavors. For example you want a Strawberry Custard so you would use a portion of the Custard Stone and add the Strawberry or whatever other flavors at the time you mix the final ejuice.

As far as steeping I am even more confused about this. I have a couple of recipes that I mix on a regular basis so I want to make One Shots. Is this one Shot steeping on its own or does the steeping process begin when I had the nic, PG and VG? With the One Shot or Stone, does the flavors start to fade before mixing the final juice?

Thanks for your help.

 

[FranC]

The closest I come to premixing anything nowadays is a couple 10% dilutions. I used to premix my cheesecake bases but I like to change them up sometimes so that didn't work great for me and I just don't bother with premixing anymore.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

I'd be afraid it would confuse me...........

Stones are much simplier than what we did with the HA IC. In the HA IC we were wanting a 1ml to equal a % such in our case 1.5%
Stones on the other hand use the % in your recipe to fill a bottle.
eq.
Roasted Pecan Cookie
WF Roasted Pecan 3%
FA Cookie 1%
INW Biscuit .75%
FA Fresh Cream 1%

To figure out the stone ingredients you would use the total % of all your ingredients, then make that % into a decimal. You would then divide each % in the recipe by that decimal to figure out the new % to be used in the stone.

eq.
Total % of FranC's Roasted Pecan Cookie is 5.75%.
Moving the decimal 2 places to the left =.0575
The take the % of the individual ingredient and divide by the total decimal.
3.0/0.0575 = 52.17%
1.0/0.0575 = 17.39%
.75/0.0575 = 13.04%
1.0/0.0575 = 17.39%

You can round up or down depending on preference/ease of mixing. I realize the total only comes to 99.99% but that is because of the math/decimals and how far out you wish to take them. The minute difference is not going to be noticeable via taste.

You can use this mixture @ 10% or whatever % you like. If you want to keep the exact % in your mix then use the total of the original recipe which is 5.75%.

Let me know what you think..... I hope you find this way not as complicated as the other.

 

[FranC]

Stones are much simplier than what we did with the HA IC. In the HA IC we were wanting a 1ml to equal a % such in our case 1.5%
Stones on the other hand use the % in your recipe to fill a bottle.
eq.
Roasted Pecan Cookie
WF Roasted Pecan 3%
FA Cookie 1%
INW Biscuit .75%
FA Fresh Cream 1%

To figure out the stone ingredients you would use the total % of all your ingredients, then make that % into a decimal. You would then divide each % in the recipe by that decimal to figure out the new % to be used in the stone.

eq.
Total % of FranC's Roasted Pecan Cookie is 5.75%.
Moving the decimal 2 places to the left =.0575
The take the % of the individual ingredient and divide by the total decimal.
3.0/0.0575 = 52.17%
1.0/0.0575 = 17.39%
.75/0.0575 = 13.04%
1.0/0.0575 = 17.39%

You can round up or down depending on preference/ease of mixing. I realize the total only comes to 99.99% but that is because of the math/decimals and how far out you wish to take them. The minute difference is not going to be noticeable via taste.

You can use this mixture @ 10% or whatever % you like. If you want to keep the exact % in your mix then use the total of the original recipe which is 5.75%.

Let me know what you think..... I hope you find this way not as complicated as the other.

That is totally too much math for me. I can see how you do that but I'm ok to skip that...........

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

I fall into the confused category.

I always thought a One Shot included all the flavors required in a recipe sans nic, PG and VG. With a Stone, I will use a custard as an example, it has all the flavors for the custard only — not sure when the Nic, PG and VG is added but I think when the final ejuice is mixed. You can then take the Custard Stone and add others flavors. For example you want a Strawberry Custard so you would use a portion of the Custard Stone and add the Strawberry or whatever other flavors at the time you mix the final ejuice.

As far as steeping I am even more confused about this. I have a couple of recipes that I mix on a regular basis so I want to make One Shots. Is this one Shot steeping on its own or does the steeping process begin when I had the nic, PG and VG? With the One Shot or Stone, does the flavors start to fade before mixing the final juice?

Thanks for your help.

I believe you are correct in the old school way of thinking. It used to be that stones were used for the flavorings that you used all the time and needed to find a way to cut down on the repetitive mixing of these flavors. Then came along the one shots. Which are really the same thing. Use either as you like and call them what you prefer, it is still the same thing. I just happen to be old school so I naturally fall into what I learned early on, but again whatever suits you is fine. There is no right/wrong way to do something in vaping or diy as long as you can repeat the same mix you want.

As far as steeping, each flavoring has its own time schedule.....standard is that candy/drink like flavors and even some fruits can be shake and vape...(Altho, I find fruits are way better steeped).
It also depend on the flavor maker as to what goes into their flavorings may reflect steeping times also. Creams, tobaccos, custards, cheesecakes, etc always take at least 3 weeks to a month to steep.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

That is totally too much math for me. I can see how you do that but I'm ok to skip that...........

That is ok, hopefully it will help someone.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

I fall into the confused category.


As far as steeping I am even more confused about this. I have a couple of recipes that I mix on a regular basis so I want to make One Shots. Is this one Shot steeping on its own or does the steeping process begin when I had the nic, PG and VG? With the One Shot or Stone, does the flavors start to fade before mixing the final juice?

Thanks for your help.

Steeping begins(I believe and have observed) after adding the nicotine/pg/vg. The flavors themselves are not reactive within the bottle they reside in and don't react when mixed with other flavorings either. Also, if any given flavor has not reacted until nicotine is introduced then there is no fading to occur, imo.

 

[FranC]

Stones are much simplier than what we did with the HA IC. In the HA IC we were wanting a 1ml to equal a % such in our case 1.5%
Stones on the other hand use the % in your recipe to fill a bottle.
eq.
Roasted Pecan Cookie
WF Roasted Pecan 3%
FA Cookie 1%
INW Biscuit .75%
FA Fresh Cream 1%

To figure out the stone ingredients you would use the total % of all your ingredients, then make that % into a decimal. You would then divide each % in the recipe by that decimal to figure out the new % to be used in the stone.

eq.
Total % of FranC's Roasted Pecan Cookie is 5.75%.
Moving the decimal 2 places to the left =.0575
The take the % of the individual ingredient and divide by the total decimal.
3.0/0.0575 = 52.17%
1.0/0.0575 = 17.39%
.75/0.0575 = 13.04%
1.0/0.0575 = 17.39%

You can round up or down depending on preference/ease of mixing. I realize the total only comes to 99.99% but that is because of the math/decimals and how far out you wish to take them. The minute difference is not going to be noticeable via taste.

You can use this mixture @ 10% or whatever % you like. If you want to keep the exact % in your mix then use the total of the original recipe which is 5.75%.

Let me know what you think..... I hope you find this way not as complicated as the other.

I copied and pasted into a google folder should I need that in the future.

 

[FranC]

Steeping begins(I believe and have observed) after adding the nicotine/pg/vg. The flavors themselves are not reactive within the bottle they reside in and don't react when mixed with other flavorings either. Also, if any given flavor has not reacted until nicotine is introduced then there is no fading to occur, imo.

I agree with that

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Gotta run errands.......brb

lol

 

[DavidOck]

As far as steeping I am even more confused about this. I have a couple of recipes that I mix on a regular basis so I want to make One Shots. Is this one Shot steeping on its own or does the steeping process begin when I had the nic, PG and VG? With the One Shot or Stone, does the flavors start to fade before mixing the final juice?

Don't make stones, but I have picked up a couple "one shots" in the past. (Hey, add a couple odd balls to get to free shipping And hope for the best!) No apparent fading of the one shots over the course of a year or so since I got them.

 

[NolaMel]

Steeping begins(I believe and have observed) after adding the nicotine/pg/vg. The flavors themselves are not reactive within the bottle they reside in and don't react when mixed with other flavorings either. Also, if any given flavor has not reacted until nicotine is introduced then there is no fading to occur, imo.

That’s why I was asking if putting all the % flavors for a 30ml bottle in just enough nic base to equal 10ml would be enough nicotine to make it steep? Sometimes my steeping bottles take up so much room. It would be nice to have them all in a smaller box, then be able to make a large bottle when I was almost ready for it. I’m probably making this more complex than it is, but my brain is fixed on those 10ml bottles

 

[FranC]

Don't make stones, but I have picked up a couple "one shots" in the past. (Hey, add a couple odd balls to get to free shipping And hope for the best!) No apparent fading of the one shots over the course of a year or so since I got them.

Whatcha get? Anything good?