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CapeTownCloudChaser

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Welcome CapeTownCloudChaser :)
Couple things. I think you mentioned you bought many used from someone else. Some flavors will weaken over time, like citrus as an example.
(I could have missed it, but) can you tell us about your setup, like atty, coil and the watts you use. And finally, can you post an example or 2 of one those highly rated recipes you found weak.
@ShamrockPat I don't know why I didn't do this before. Great idea. I am on my way out but I will reply later tonight with he above. I vape on various devices, mech mods, reg mods, rtas and rdas. I'll post specifics later tonight with the other post.
 

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    Hey @hittman, I appreciate the insight. I am aware that the maximum flavour % is anywhere between 15-20%(via online reading). Now for the most part these recipes have been between 7 and 15%. This is why I posed the question, I should have stated the percentages I was using, but even at these values it was still disgusting.

    My dilemma is not knowing if one of the ingridients is overpowering and affecting the whole profile or whether it is a combination of flavours. I even halved a recipe or 2 to no avail. I am not really keen on creating countless standalone tests, but if that is what it takes then so be it.

    Lets continue with the above scenario, say for instance I made a standalone FA Meringue and found that it worked well at 2%. Is it now safe to assume that I will always use meringue at 2% regardless of how many flavors are in the recipe? I understand you have base flavors and you add smaller amounts of other flavors to bring out certain notes in other flavors. How does one gauge the % based on the above. I would believe there is no 1 correct answer but a rough guide would go a long way!

    Not to add to the confusion but my train of thought is that normally a single flavor mix would be higher percentage than what I might use in a mix. I know the meringue is just an example but I consider it a supporting flavor and use it to add mouthfeel to a recipe more than taste it. I would normally stick with meringue at around 1% in a recipe. It depends also what kind of a recipe you are shooting for and what you want the most obvious flavor(s) to be in the mix. Doing the single flavor test will however give you a starting point for that flavor so you first of all know if you even like it and secondly you know that you don't need to go higher than that in a recipe normally. Some of the best advice I can think of is to take notes each time you try a flavor or a recipe. When I started, I made the mistake of not taking notes and suffered because of it. I don't know about you but can only keep so much information in my noggin. I usually can remember if I like a flavor or not but cannot remember all of the percentages in my head.

    I am curious as to what kinds of liquids you liked when you were purchasing them?
     

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    Not to add to the confusion but my train of thought is that normally a single flavor mix would be higher percentage than what I might use in a mix. I know the meringue is just an example but I consider it a supporting flavor and use it to add mouthfeel to a recipe more than taste it. I would normally stick with meringue at around 1% in a recipe. It depends also what kind of a recipe you are shooting for and what you want the most obvious flavor(s) to be in the mix. Doing the single flavor test will however give you a starting point for that flavor so you first of all know if you even like it and secondly you know that you don't need to go higher than that in a recipe normally. Some of the best advice I can think of is to take notes each time you try a flavor or a recipe. When I started, I made the mistake of not taking notes and suffered because of it. I don't know about you but can only keep so much information in my noggin. I usually can remember if I like a flavor or not but cannot remember all of the percentages in my head.

    I am curious as to what kinds of liquids you liked when you were purchasing them?
    After all this time I don’t take as many notes as I should.
     

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    After all this time I don’t take as many notes as I should.

    That may be the case but after all this time I'm sure you're very comfortable with what you like and don't. I feel like not taking notes for so long really hindered me. I don't experiment much any more with all the review samples constantly rolling in.
     

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    That may be the case but after all this time I'm sure you're very comfortable with what you like and don't. I feel like not taking notes for so long really hindered me. I don't experiment much any more with all the review samples constantly rolling in.
    I’m usually quite happy in my mixing. Not many fails with my known flavors. Then I get into the flavors I’ve never used and here comes trouble. Not to mention all the new flavors that came out recently. Ouch. I really didn’t buy much for weird ones. The bakewell, nut muffin and clotted cream are the unknowns. I’m as sure as I can be that the other flavors are good.
     

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    Not to add to the confusion but my train of thought is that normally a single flavor mix would be higher percentage than what I might use in a mix. I know the meringue is just an example but I consider it a supporting flavor and use it to add mouthfeel to a recipe more than taste it. I would normally stick with meringue at around 1% in a recipe. It depends also what kind of a recipe you are shooting for and what you want the most obvious flavor(s) to be in the mix. Doing the single flavor test will however give you a starting point for that flavor so you first of all know if you even like it and secondly you know that you don't need to go higher than that in a recipe normally. Some of the best advice I can think of is to take notes each time you try a flavor or a recipe. When I started, I made the mistake of not taking notes and suffered because of it. I don't know about you but can only keep so much information in my noggin. I usually can remember if I like a flavor or not but cannot remember all of the percentages in my head.

    I am curious as to what kinds of liquids you liked when you were purchasing them?


    My train went off the confusion tracks years ago ...........:confused:
     
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    Morning, mixers.

    Despite early indications, the weather guessers blew it yesterday. Close on the temp, but the promised yellow blob in the sky never showed up. Nah, didn't change the oil ;)

    Maybe today...

    My dilemma is not knowing if one of the ingridients is overpowering and affecting the whole profile or whether it is a combination of flavours. I even halved a recipe or 2 to no avail. I am not really keen on creating countless standalone tests, but if that is what it takes then so be it.

    Lets continue with the above scenario, say for instance I made a standalone FA Meringue and found that it worked well at 2%. Is it now safe to assume that I will always use meringue at 2% regardless of how many flavors are in the recipe? I understand you have base flavors and you add smaller amounts of other flavors to bring out certain notes in other flavors. How does one gauge the % based on the above. I would believe there is no 1 correct answer but a rough guide would go a long way!

    Hence the recommendation for some single flavor testers (SFT), at least until you get some familiarity with the flavors.Hard to tell what's going on, otherwise.

    And, yes, (although maybe not the best example ;) ), that would be a reasonable starting point, the same %. Just remember that it's a start, not necessarily where the mix will ultimately end up.

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    Good morning in here. On facebook I just seen a ad from Wizard lab that they are closing shop. A 30% discount. Just type in wizardlab and on the page is will show discount. I never ordered from them because they were higher than other vendors. I hope BSF continues to provide flavorings. However, if push comes to shove one can still order direct from a few flavoring vendors. Except Flavorah.
     

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    Good morning in here. On facebook I just seen a ad from Wizard lab that they are closing shop. A 30% discount. Just type in wizardlab and on the page is will show discount. I never ordered from them because they were higher than other vendors. I hope BSF continues to provide flavorings. However, if push comes to shove one can still order direct from a few flavoring vendors. Except Flavorah.

    That's pretty scary. Wizard Lab was the first vendor I ever bought flavors from. I like BCF so much that I haven't ordered from Wizard in a long time.
     

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    That's pretty scary. Wizard Lab was the first vendor I ever bought flavors from. I like BCF so much that I haven't ordered from Wizard in a long time.
    It is scary even though I’ve never ordered from them.
     

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