My new Vapcell charger arrived yesterday. That thing sure is complicated. It displays a multitude of different readings as it charges. Not sure how far I'll dig into what it's doing.
It has one annoying feature. It plugs into an outlet. The wire from the plug goes a couple of feet to some kind of black box that I guess is a power converter from 120V to whatever the charger uses. Then the wire continues a couple of feet more from the converter to the charger. Trouble is that neither piece of wire is long enough to go from the floor to my desk. I have it set up now with the charger on the desk and the converter halfway up sitting on an old paint can. I'll probably grab a short extension cable to run from the plug to the desk.
It has one annoying feature. It plugs into an outlet. The wire from the plug goes a couple of feet to some kind of black box that I guess is a power converter from 120V to whatever the charger uses. Then the wire continues a couple of feet more from the converter to the charger. Trouble is that neither piece of wire is long enough to go from the floor to my desk. I have it set up now with the charger on the desk and the converter halfway up sitting on an old paint can. I'll probably grab a short extension cable to run from the plug to the desk.
I've been having a think about these Doughnuts myself here and there since they were mentioned a little while ago!
May I make a suggestion? Well that's more of statement than a question, I'm gonna make a suggestion!!
I like the thought of,
Chocolate Glazed Doughnut(Cap)
Powdered Donut(WF)
Yellow Cake(FW)
Biscuit(INW)
Whipped Cream(SSA)
And a very nice chocolate flavour or two, I'm not too familiar with my chocolates.
Another thought!
Glazed Doughnut
Powdered Donut(WF)
Yellow Cake(FW)
Biscuit(INW)
Whipped Cream(SSA)
Plus definitely add two chocolates also!
I haven't narrowed down the percentages yet but definitely increase the Yellow Cake in my opinion!! 2% would hit the spot
Hi, Fran!
Hey ho, let's go! Hey ho, let's go!
They're mixing in the back seat
They're vaping up the steam heat
Clouding out the back street
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I added more of those recipe screenshots in a new folder in my vape drive.
There are probably a lot of duplicated ones, I just screenshot until it stops. Heh, they might all be duplicates.
I think I just like the pictures, they're so colorful!
Thank you, Dan!I've been having a think about these Doughnuts myself here and there since they were mentioned a little while ago!
May I make a suggestion? Well that's more of statement than a question, I'm gonna make a suggestion!!
I like the thought of,
Chocolate Glazed Doughnut(Cap)
Powdered Donut(WF)
Yellow Cake(FW)
Biscuit(INW)
Whipped Cream(SSA)
And a very nice chocolate flavour or two, I'm not too familiar with my chocolates.
Another thought!
Glazed Doughnut
Powdered Donut(WF)
Yellow Cake(FW)
Biscuit(INW)
Whipped Cream(SSA)
Plus definitely add two chocolates also!
I haven't narrowed down the percentages yet but definitely increase the Yellow Cake in my opinion!! 2% would hit the spot
Come on in and join the Donut Party, all the 'nuts are welcome!
(be them do- or dough-)
Hey, wait!
Where's the mangoes?!
(Seriously, all help is appreciated
)
Thank you to all who are on the journey/quest with me. Some things I know:
there was a change in the chocolate at one point. Earlier one was probably Cap Double Choc (it was fairly dark). Newer one was much lighter and the taste changed to a more neutral chocolate. Definitely not Cap Double chocolate.
As to sweetener, it is fairly sweet but I suspect it was some simple added sweetener. The choc was light but easily picked up while the donut was not very present. There was no taste of BA or any of the other weird bakery notes I sometimes get and can't vape.
It reminds me of just taking some vg/pg and adding some choc and sweetener with maybe a little bit of yellow cake or similar. Nothing too complex or in your face. The flavoring wasn't very strong except for the sweetener. The first time I tried it as a mystery flavor, I definitely picked up on the chocolate and sweetener but nothing else.
I don't think it was RF, I have tried most of them. I agree they probably used less expensive because their juice wasn't expensive. I need to mix some FW yellow cake, some chocolates and sweetener to see if I can narrow down the choc. I am so bad at picking out specific flavors and nuances.
there was a change in the chocolate at one point. Earlier one was probably Cap Double Choc (it was fairly dark). Newer one was much lighter and the taste changed to a more neutral chocolate. Definitely not Cap Double chocolate.
As to sweetener, it is fairly sweet but I suspect it was some simple added sweetener. The choc was light but easily picked up while the donut was not very present. There was no taste of BA or any of the other weird bakery notes I sometimes get and can't vape.
It reminds me of just taking some vg/pg and adding some choc and sweetener with maybe a little bit of yellow cake or similar. Nothing too complex or in your face. The flavoring wasn't very strong except for the sweetener. The first time I tried it as a mystery flavor, I definitely picked up on the chocolate and sweetener but nothing else.
I don't think it was RF, I have tried most of them. I agree they probably used less expensive because their juice wasn't expensive. I need to mix some FW yellow cake, some chocolates and sweetener to see if I can narrow down the choc. I am so bad at picking out specific flavors and nuances.
I’m pretty sure RF was sold to a company in Canada.Purilum has been around for over 60 years.
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Real Flavors, I don't know when they started. I am having difficulty finding that info. I seem to recall buying some of their flavors in 2015-16. And I thought they went out of business (???). Even though DIY Vapor Supply (Michigan) is still selling RF (old stock???). IDK.
Of the commercial juice makers that have released, or publicly discussed, their recipes, all used only CAP, FW and TPA.
Matt Topolski, lead mixologist and head of R&D, at Charlie Noble released 6 of their older recipes (so far). Some of those were very popular. With the FDA BS they decided to discontinue certain recipes. 5 of those use all CAP, FW and TPA. 1 uses those along with FA Watermelon.
At one time Matt was very active in the DIY community, he helped countless many (including me) with many tips.
I think I’ll try a simple mix with YC and chocolate. According to the spreadsheet on the old thread they used 15% flavors and 1% sweetener. Not sure what percentage to start with. I’ll have to think on it.
I haven't picked up the WF Powdered Donut yet but it's been on one of my BCF wish lists for a while.I've been having a think about these Doughnuts myself here and there since they were mentioned a little while ago!
May I make a suggestion? Well that's more of statement than a question, I'm gonna make a suggestion!!
I like the thought of,
Chocolate Glazed Doughnut(Cap)
Powdered Donut(WF)
Yellow Cake(FW)
Biscuit(INW)
Whipped Cream(SSA)
And a very nice chocolate flavour or two, I'm not too familiar with my chocolates.
Another thought!
Glazed Doughnut
Powdered Donut(WF)
Yellow Cake(FW)
Biscuit(INW)
Whipped Cream(SSA)
Plus definitely add two chocolates also!
I haven't narrowed down the percentages yet but definitely increase the Yellow Cake in my opinion!! 2% would hit the spot
Guess I should get it soon.
(I tell ya, I don't think that dang wish list will ever go away!)
I'm also trying some EM in those chocolate testers that I mixed up a few days ago.
I read a few customer comments about that improving FW Double Dutch Chocolate.
well ya know......... if enough of us toss out our donut ideas, we may just HIT on something @rosesense might like. And that would be really awesome!!! 
Nailing a perfect SOD clone? Probably not gonna happen. Something close? Sure. IIRC, Rose has said something close would be nice ( ??? ).
thinking about this, if I were to make a chocolate glazed donut, per Rose's reply above, I would start with:
FA Zeppola 2% - 2.5% (to maybe 3%, max) ------> as my donut base
Why Zeppola? It is FA's donut base flavor. And as a donut flavor, it just totally Rocks. Has a very pleasant (not overdone) natural sweetness.
Chocolate??? Which one? I no longer have any of the CAP, FW or TPA chocolates. So, I have to go with what I currently know.
I would start with:
WF Ice Cream Dark Chocolate 2.5%
Why?
1) the chocolate note alone totally rocks in a bakery mix, it is a darker tasting chocolate 100%, but not a pure "dark"
2) its creaminess would also help in "selling" something like a 'chocolate glaze'
3) the creaminess would also help to "fill out" the Zeppola donut base, adding mouthfeel
And.......... that's it, I would only start with those two flavors.
@rosesense, do you have those two flavors?
The sweetness inherent in both flavors would likely offer the illusion of a "glazed" donut to ones sense of taste.
After testing the above mix, I might consider adding a second chocolate to boost the overall chocolate profile (per Rose's last post).
Once happy with the mix - - - I would add 1% OOO Powdered Sugar.
Why? Because OOO Powdered Sugar delivers a more finished, or polished, product in nearly all bakery mixes without adding any noticeable sweetness. IOW, at 1% you don't actually "taste" powdered sugar. Think of it more as a "blending" agent within a mix.
After that, I would consider adding one of the sweeteners "to taste".
and seeing as I've gone this far, I am going to mix this to satisfy my curiosity
Nailing a perfect SOD clone? Probably not gonna happen. Something close? Sure. IIRC, Rose has said something close would be nice ( ??? ).
thinking about this, if I were to make a chocolate glazed donut, per Rose's reply above, I would start with:
FA Zeppola 2% - 2.5% (to maybe 3%, max) ------> as my donut base
Why Zeppola? It is FA's donut base flavor. And as a donut flavor, it just totally Rocks. Has a very pleasant (not overdone) natural sweetness.
Chocolate??? Which one? I no longer have any of the CAP, FW or TPA chocolates. So, I have to go with what I currently know.
I would start with:
WF Ice Cream Dark Chocolate 2.5%
Why?
1) the chocolate note alone totally rocks in a bakery mix, it is a darker tasting chocolate 100%, but not a pure "dark"
2) its creaminess would also help in "selling" something like a 'chocolate glaze'
3) the creaminess would also help to "fill out" the Zeppola donut base, adding mouthfeel
And.......... that's it, I would only start with those two flavors.
@rosesense, do you have those two flavors?
The sweetness inherent in both flavors would likely offer the illusion of a "glazed" donut to ones sense of taste.
After testing the above mix, I might consider adding a second chocolate to boost the overall chocolate profile (per Rose's last post).
Once happy with the mix - - - I would add 1% OOO Powdered Sugar.
Why? Because OOO Powdered Sugar delivers a more finished, or polished, product in nearly all bakery mixes without adding any noticeable sweetness. IOW, at 1% you don't actually "taste" powdered sugar. Think of it more as a "blending" agent within a mix.
After that, I would consider adding one of the sweeteners "to taste".
and seeing as I've gone this far, I am going to mix this to satisfy my curiosity
It is a really good donut flavor. I've used it a few times in some of my tests. Each time I've used it, I have been very impressed.
And, it's not at all what I would call a "SWEET" sweet kind of flavor.
It has roughly the same sweetness as any of the other cake/donut/cupcake/muffin/etc. flavors.
I probably have those flavors since I seem to have almost all that were ever made, lolwell ya know......... if enough of us toss out our donut ideas, we may just HIT on something @rosesense might like. And that would be really awesome!!!
Nailing a perfect SOD clone? Probably not gonna happen. Something close? Sure. IIRC, Rose has said something close would be nice ( ??? ).
thinking about this, if I were to make a chocolate glazed donut, per Rose's reply above, I would start with:
FA Zeppola 2% - 2.5% (to maybe 3%, max) ------> as my donut base
Why Zeppola? It is FA's donut base flavor. And as a donut flavor, it just totally Rocks. Has a very pleasant (not overdone) natural sweetness.
Chocolate??? Which one? I no longer have any of the CAP, FW or TPA chocolates. So, I have to go with what I currently know.
I would start with:
WF Ice Cream Dark Chocolate 2.5%
Why?
1) the chocolate note alone totally rocks in a bakery mix, it is a darker tasting chocolate 100%, but not a pure "dark"
2) its creaminess would also help in "selling" something like a 'chocolate glaze'
3) the creaminess would also help to "fill out" the Zeppola donut base, adding mouthfeel
And.......... that's it, I would only start with those two flavors.
@rosesense, do you have those two flavors?
The sweetness inherent in both flavors would likely offer the illusion of a "glazed" donut to ones sense of taste.
After testing the above mix, I might consider adding a second chocolate to boost the overall chocolate profile (per Rose's last post).
Once happy with the mix - - - I would add 1% OOO Powdered Sugar.
Why? Because OOO Powdered Sugar delivers a more finished, or polished, product in nearly all bakery mixes without adding any noticeable sweetness. IOW, at 1% you don't actually "taste" powdered sugar. Think of it more as a "blending" agent within a mix.
After that, I would consider adding one of the sweeteners "to taste".
and seeing as I've gone this far, I am going to mix this to satisfy my curiosity
I think OOO powdered sugar sounds like a good possibility. I can't remember what zeppola tastes like so not sure about that one. The choc seems more middle of the road than a dark choc to me. Kind of like choc pudding maybe.
I will attempt to join all of you with some mixing soon. I have been a bit busy since Charali managed to pull some choc chips down and eat them. I thought he would die he was so sick but he survived. So chocolate hasn't been my friend lately.
I'm curious, what was your reasoning for using EM in those?
Did those chocolate testers have "rough edges"/"sharp notes" taste-wise?
One of EM's main purposes in life is to smooth out any rough edges that a flavor, or couple of flavors, have in a mix. Usually 0.5% will do the trick.
Up to 1% depending on total flavoring in a mix. It can/will mute flavors (depending).
EM is not a sweetener.
this from ELR's "Master Mixer's Tips & Tricks" page:
EM is also known as Cotton Candy. Often referred to as a sweetener, though it really isn't. At low percentages, around 0.5-1% it adds body, moisture, and reduces sharp notes. It rounds off the flavors, and brings them out a bit. In other words, it reduces flavor intensity. 1.5-2.5% it significantly reduces flavor intensity. After vaping liquids with very high EM-content, many experience a distinct loss of flavor in anything else you vape, for an hour or more. Around 8-10%, it gives off a distinct burned sugar/cotton candy flavor, but without the sweetness of real cotton candy.
I rarely use EM. I do use it at 0.25% - 0.5% with peach flavors because, for me, peach flavors have a harshness to them (even at low %'s). I've never gone over 0.5%. Never had a reason to.
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I think WF Ice Cream Dark Chocolate, is closer to a middle of the road chocolate, that leans slightly dark, versus a straight-up dark chocolate like VTA Dark Chocolate or MF Dark Chocolate.
That makes me wonder if WF Pudding (Milk Chocolate) might work.
Happy to hear Charali is okay.
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