Random DIY mixing and More

[hittman]

I posted the recipe and have mixed it several times — Graham Cracker Custard. I had to make a minor adjustment the second time because I did not have FW Graham Cracker and had to compensate for this.

I didn’t have the FW graham cracker either. I only had tfa and a bottle of dark graham that was from MFS. I think theirs is tfa also. I have the FW coming on my last chefs order.

 

[hittman]

Unless the husband was clever enough (I don't think he was) to forward our mail! Although OY, I bet you can do that online now, possibly! I'm pretty sure my chef's order will sit in our mailbox or like, freaking not fit with all the other stuff and get sent back or something.

I am definitely investigating misinformed delivery today.... Also I have a win coming via DHL that needs a signature... Sigh. I wonder what I can do about THAT, DHL is pretty with it. Will have to deal with my email and sundry such stuff today. LOL.

I did not know the husband was "coming here" for taxes. He is super NOT into delaying them and I do get it. Also, filing for an extension always puts you at a higher risk for being audited, and we get a little "creative" with our audits. I did not for example, keep a running log of my travel amounts, although I'm sure I COULD if I were to get audited, but they give you some time.

Also, including the sale of the house appears (even to me) to be a terrible idea. So, it is what it is.

Anna

I get packages from DHL when I win or do a review. I can usually authorize them to leave it if I’m not there online.

 

[Heartsdelight]

I saw this last night. He was not joking when he apologized for the shopping list. I purchased a couple of FLV flavors from CF as I found the prices to be good. I will live vicariously through your enjoyment.

Pippa is a lady

I’m trying to figure out where to buy all the missing flavors. BCF has everything but they charge the most for the FLV Jammy Berry.

 

[rosesense]

Unless the husband was clever enough (I don't think he was) to forward our mail! Although OY, I bet you can do that online now, possibly! I'm pretty sure my chef's order will sit in our mailbox or like, freaking not fit with all the other stuff and get sent back or something.

I am definitely investigating misinformed delivery today.... Also I have a win coming via DHL that needs a signature... Sigh. I wonder what I can do about THAT, DHL is pretty with it. Will have to deal with my email and sundry such stuff today. LOL.

I did not know the husband was "coming here" for taxes. He is super NOT into delaying them and I do get it. Also, filing for an extension always puts you at a higher risk for being audited, and we get a little "creative" with our audits. I did not for example, keep a running log of my travel amounts, although I'm sure I COULD if I were to get audited, but they give you some time.

Also, including the sale of the house appears (even to me) to be a terrible idea. So, it is what it is.

Anna

You can do it online as well as sign up to receive daily emails about what mail/packages are being deliver that day. Sale of a house/taxes on it are dependent on the amount. I forget how much it is but unless the house sells for a lot of money, it doesn't impact your taxes. I know one I sold for 264 k didn't add to taxes.

To keep this ot, I am trying to identify a back note that I absolutely hate. It is in the one shot of Triple C and in most custards and some vanillas so can anyone give me a hint of what to avoid. I am guessing it is some milk, cream or custard that bothers me.

 

[NotSoMini]

To keep this ot, I am trying to identify a back note that I absolutely hate. It is in the one shot of Triple C and in most custards and some vanillas so can anyone give me a hint of what to avoid. I am guessing it is some milk, cream or custard that bothers me.

Sounds like it could be Butyric Acid used as an alternative to diketones. Normally used in v2 and DX flavor versions like custards, creamy type flavors, etc. I use v2 versions on occasion. Generally I do not taste it however I can smell it especially when I wash out my bottles.

 

[hittman]

I need to get my Oreo cannoli back out to see if the steep did it any good. The first tasting of it was not impressive. It’s steeped long enough now that I don’t think more time is going to do it any good.

 

[NotSoMini]

Pippa is a lady

I’m trying to figure out where to buy all the missing flavors. BCF has everything but they charge the most for the FLV Jammy Berry.

If you are in a hurry then BCF. If not wait until you need other flavors and order from CF.

On the new FLV flavors it appears BCF is offering original 15ml bottles and not the 10ml size. For myself I generally buy 10mls and reorders at 30mls for the ones i use a lot. With CF I recently purchased 10mls Basil (new flavor) and 30mls Millk & Honey (refill) not to say CF had all the new flavors I wanted for various recipes except one. The one CF did not have I had to buy from another vendor. It is a SC flavor so not widely available and as far as I can find only two vendors had it.

 

[Shadav]

ok what's this chief's you keep talking about?
while I've been doing diy for years, I only used diyflavorshack and highdesertvapes (now seems they are gone [not desertvapes]).... now thanks to you all I've got BCF and NicRiver
looking for other places that are cheap/sales

 

[dc99]

ok what's this chief's you keep talking about?
while I've been doing diy for years, I only used diyflavorshack and highdesertvapes (now seems they are gone [not desertvapes]).... now thanks to you all I've got BCF and NicRiver
looking for other places that are cheap/sales

diyfs better not be gone, just ordered from them diyflavorshack vapor
Chefs Flavours LTD

 

[ceeceeisme]

ok what's this chief's you keep talking about?
while I've been doing diy for years, I only used diyflavorshack and highdesertvapes (now seems they are gone [not desertvapes]).... now thanks to you all I've got BCF and NicRiver
looking for other places that are cheap/sales

Chef's is in England but they do have some things that are not available in North America.

Chefs Flavours LTD

 

[Shadav]

diyfs better not be gone, just ordered from them diyflavorshack vapor
Chefs Flavours LTD

na Dawn at diyf's is still very active.... it's highdesertvapes that is gone, I used to order from them because they had odd flavors and little 1- 3 ml sample bottles

 

[dc99]

na Dawn at diyf's is still very active.... it's highdesertvapes that is gone, I used to order from them because they had odd flavors and little 1- 3 ml sample bottles

Ahh, I read it wrong. I get my odd flavors from this place DIY Vapor Supply

 

[rosesense]

ok what's this chief's you keep talking about?
while I've been doing diy for years, I only used diyflavorshack and highdesertvapes (now seems they are gone [not desertvapes]).... now thanks to you all I've got BCF and NicRiver
looking for other places that are cheap/sales

I use ecigexpress and Gremlin a lot. Gremlin has some on their sale page, 1.00 for 30ml of some flavors and a bit more for Capellas. Page constantly changing so check back for new additions. I believe code ecf still works on the Gremlin site for 10% off.

 

[TylerA]

Did you let your mixes steep? The chemical-ly will steep out or you could just leave it uncapped for a few hours. You can't give up so easily.None of us would be doing DIY if we gave up easily. There are a number of execellant creams such as RF Aged Bourbon Cream,FA Catalan Cream,Hangsen cream,FA Irish Cream just to name a few, Read the reviews and pick 3-4 to try. and let your mixes STEEP!!

I am letting a few of them steep. My younger brother was over during part of my mixing endeavour because he vapes and I wanted his opinion as well. He definitely tastes the grape different than I do - something he would call purple (I think that's the word I'm looking for since "real" grape is not what I'm after) and juicy, tasted perfumey and chemical to me.

Creams are great with fruit flavors, I rarely make any kind of fruit mix without some kind of cream added. Creams can smooth harsh edges and bring a thicker mouth feel to your mix.

Good all round creams: FLV Cream, FA Cream Fresh, FA Vienna Cream, WF Tahitian Vanilla Cream, WF Vanilla Cream Extra, CAP Vanilla Whipped Cream, TFA Bavarian Cream

And a note about grape: I've yet to find a grape flavor that I like. I've tried adding cream to grape mixes and for me, cream doesn't help the grape flavor I already don't like. It is worth a try though as it might be something that would work for you - stick with a straight cream like FA Cream Fresh at 1% to see if it improves your mix.

Put the first two in your list on my next order, thank you

Thats an extremely small percentage of VBIC as its not really a strong flavor anyway. If you are just trying to thicken it maybe a touch of meringue. Cap Vanilla custard would be a good addition but keep in mind creams will take time to come into there own

VBIC is extremely strong for me. I mixed something like this about a week ago and instead of .5% I used 1.5%, and after that week long steep, the VBIC was overpowering. I can still taste it fairly well at .5%.

Unfortunately, custards don't seem to agree with me ... maybe its the eggyness, I'm not sure.

Creams are magical for adding body and smoothness to single fruit flavors. You need to know your creams in order to figure out what will work for what you are trying to achieve. Cream Fresh (Panna Fresca) (FA) is my go-to for adding body without diluting the fruit's flavor. For more smooth creaminess, you need a mix of creams. For your vanilla, you might try Creme Fresh (FA) at 1 to 1.5%, a sweet cream (I like VTA Sweet Cream but FLV would work, CAP Vanilla Whipped Cream would work, etc.) at 1 to 1.5%, Vienna Cream (FA) at 1 to 1.5%, Marshmallow at 1 to 1.5%, Shisha Vanilla (INW) at 1 to 1.5%, your favorite VBIC at 3 to 4% OR a better choice might be Vanilla Swirl (TFA) at 3 to 4%.

FA Fuji is a great flavor but, IMO, needs to be layered with other apples for the best results. Maybe FA Fuji at 2%, Cap Double Apple at 2%, INW Two Apples at 1%, Molinberry Shape Up Pear at 1% (my favorite Pear but FA Pear will work), and FA Cream Fresh at 1%. Turn that into an Icee with the addition of .5% WS-23.

I've put a few 3ml testers in my next order for the apples as well as FLV Cream, FA Fresh Cream, and TFA Vanilla Swirl. I'm trying to avoid sweet since that makes mosts things immediately unvapable for me .. like a super small amount of sweetness is ok, but anything more than that I just cant do :/

@TylerA - You mentioned you have FW Blueberry coming. Do you have any other blueberries to layer with it? That is one of the mixing secrets with fruits - layering.

This recipe is from Dave, a very talented mixer. It is unusual for him to go this high on flavors but apparently it works in this recipe - rave reviews. You can see what he did here - layered berries in a smooth creamy base.

Viserion

I have a few different berries and fruits coming - I'll give what he's doing a try .. I dont have the same stuff, but it gives me an idea on the direction. Thank you.

For a straight up cream, I like FLV Cream and FA Fresh Cream. YMMV.

Got them ordered, thank you.

I love grape ejuice but like many other fruits you need to blend at least 2 together to get a fuller grape flavor. I also add a small amount of cactus.5 % to make it juicier since grape can taste dry. Watermelon and apple can also add some juiciness. I often add a raspberry to my grape recipes to boost the grape flavor at about 1.0%

A bit of marshmallow can add some mouthfeel or density since grape can be somewhat thin. 1%

As for creams probably any of the less flavored like FA Cream Fresh might smooth it out a bit. I haven’t used any creams in my grape recipes yet so I’ll defer to others.

Don’t give up. What recipes did you try you didn’t work for you?

Here’s a simple grape recipe you can try. You can substitute whatever grape you have for the grape soda if you don’t have it. Personally I would increase the Total Flavor % to 10% to start with.

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I tried something similar, I have it steeping .. but on the original flavor test, the raspberry I used at 0.25% seemed to overpower everything :/

 

[PJReid]

I've put a few 3ml testers in my next order for the apples as well as FLV Cream, FA Fresh Cream, and TFA Vanilla Swirl. I'm trying to avoid sweet since that makes mosts things immediately unvapable for me .. like a super small amount of sweetness is ok, but anything more than that I just cant do :/

VTA Sweet Cream isn't really sweet. It is a nice, heavy cream. FLV Cream is better, IMO, than FLV Sweet Cream.

 

[Fidola13]

I was partially successful today. I got a nic base and cheesecake stone mixed up for steeping. Also got a couple other new recipe mixes and a couple of that I’ve mixed before.

I also did a more thorough inventory since I double ordered several flavors. I entered anything over 10mls into ERL so that doesn’t happen again.

I left my “laboratory” things out as my roommate calls it so I can do a few for mixed tomorrow. Also make a few more sfts. @FranC gets me motivated when I see her doing sft all the time!

Shoutout to @Letitia for helping me out during a mixing blackout on which amount of nic base to use when using ELR. Its a bit funky when using a premade base because the amounts are different from the regular recipe and the nic base ready recipe. I don’t know why though and it still frustrates me lol! I mean - shouldn’t the base amount be the same? Ugh.

Anyhow I hope everyone had a good day with whatever they did from mixing, organizing or even just vaping.

 

[Letitia]

I was partially successful today. I got a nic base and cheesecake stone mixed up for steeping. Also got a couple other new recipe mixes and a couple of that I’ve mixed before.

I also did a more thorough inventory since I double ordered several flavors. I entered anything over 10mls into ERL so that doesn’t happen again.

I left my “laboratory” things out as my roommate calls it so I can do a few for mixed tomorrow. Also make a few more sfts. @FranC gets me motivated when I see her doing sft all the time!

Shoutout to @Letitia for helping me out during a mixing blackout on which amount of nic base to use when using ELR. Its a bit funky when using a premade base because the amounts are different from the regular recipe and the nic base ready recipe. I don’t know why though and it still frustrates me lol! I mean - shouldn’t the base amount be the same? Ugh.

Anyhow I hope everyone had a good day with whatever they did from mixing, organizing or even just vaping.

If you are just using elr weight values instead of manually entering the values of the brands you use there will variations. They are negligible. I mix my own base and just don't worry about it myself. Unless you use pretty high flavor percentages your nic variances are also miniscule. I just up the nic in my base 0.5% over what I would use measuring all ingredients separately. If you are using a premix from a site they can provide you with the specific weight.

 

[Fidola13]

@TylerA I remember the hardest and most disappointing aspect of being a DIY noobie was to find out that one needed layers of a flavor to get it to taste good. And not only layers but needed certain attributes for those layers to make a well rounded flavor especially fruits in my case.

I bought one of several fruits and thought -this will be great!! Well, not so much. After making some really dull mixes I almost decided to give up. I just couldn’t figure out how people enjoyed this DIY juice. Good thing I didn’t though with this groups encouragement.

I’ve been DIYing a little over a year now and I’ve learned soo much from this forum and others. And mixing channels on YouTube esp fogvblog. I absolutely love the learning part of DIY cuz it adds one more tool in my toolbox.

So don’t give up before it starts to click for you too!!

 

[JoeyC]

I need to get my Oreo cannoli back out to see if the steep did it any good. The first tasting of it was not impressive. It’s steeped long enough now that I don’t think more time is going to do it any good.

Can you post the recipe please tia

 

[Fidola13]

If you are just using elr weight values instead of manually entering the values of the brands you use there will variations. They are negligible. I mix my own base and just don't worry about it myself. Unless you use pretty high flavor percentages your nic variances are also miniscule. I just up the nic in my base 0.5% over what I would use measuring all ingredients separately. If you are using a premix from a site they can provide you with the specific weight.

It’s my own base mix I’m using. So when you mix do you just use the Base Total as listed or go into Edit then select Vape Ready Base then scroll down to use that base amount?

Sorry I keep asking the same questions over in different ways. But at least I understand about the weight difference now.

Oh and I make me nic base assuming a 15% flavor total.