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Hmmmm...is the Temu thingee the new amazon?

I don't think so at all. In fact I think Temu may pose a risk.

"Temu is owned and operated by the Chinese-based and Cayman Islands registered company PDD Holdings, which also owns Pinduoduo, a popular online commerce platform in China."

Cleverly, PPD Holdings is located in Dublin, Ireland.

"The U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission has accused Temu and Shein of posing possible data risks."

"Temu was accused by the US government of potential data risks after its sister site, e-commerce platform Pinduoduo, was suspended by Google for containing malware."

"According to a report from the US House Select Committee on the Chinese Communist Party, Temu relies on the de minimis exception to ship goods directly to US customers for a low price. A shipment below the de minimis value of $800 isn't inspected or taxed by US Customs."

"Temu told the Committee that the company does not have an internal or external entity to ensure sellers comply with Temu's Code of Conduct."


There are reports that they are selling items made by those in Chinese forced labor camps. There are also questions about counterfeit items being sold via Temu.

"While the site has been known to sell counterfeit and knockoff goods, in some cases, Temu sellers have copied product photos, descriptions, and keywords directly from the original Amazon listings."

I'll take a hard pass on Temu. I do not trust shady Chinese companies with my personal data.
 

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    It's a cross between Amazon and nonvape aspect of fasttech. They have all kinds of things like Amazon but the prices and quality are lower. Everything ships from China.
    Not always true about quality. I have gotten things that were exactly the same as from local shops and at 1/4 of the price. Quality was the same or better. Otoh, some things are sub par and not as described. Those I return, for free.
     

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    Not always true about quality. I have gotten things that were exactly the same as from local shops and at 1/4 of the price. Quality was the same or better. Otoh, some things are sub par and not as described. Those I return, for free.
    I haven't looked around much as yet.
     
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    Not always true about quality. I have gotten things that were exactly the same as from local shops and at 1/4 of the price. Quality was the same or better. Otoh, some things are sub par and not as described. Those I return, for free.


    I've gotten some quality items, like luggage locks, at a good price. The t-shirts were OK quality. But other things didn't pan out, but I got refunded. I haven't placed an order since the government came out with that report that SMT mentioned, but I haven't had any issues because of ordering from Temu, like credit card fraud. If the CCP is collecting data, I'm not sure what they are going to do with it, the shopping habits of average Americans. I haven't even gotten spam emails from them. I can't say that about some American companies I've ordered from. I'm sure something nefarious will come of it.
     

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    I've gotten some quality items, like luggage locks, at a good price. The t-shirts were OK quality. But other things didn't pan out, but I got refunded. I haven't placed an order since the government came out with that report that SMT mentioned, but I haven't had any issues because of ordering from Temu, like credit card fraud. If the CCP is collecting data, I'm not sure what they are going to do with it, the shopping habits of average Americans. I haven't even gotten spam emails from them. I can't say that about some American companies I've ordered from. I'm sure something nefarious will come of it.
    My order went thru Paypal.
     

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    These days malware is a major concern. Simply visiting a website, like Temu for example, can lead to a virus or malware infection. A malicious site may download a virus to your computer without your consent or permission.

    "Once malware is on your device, criminals can use it to steal your sensitive information, send you unwanted or inappropriate ads, demand payment to unscramble data encrypted by ransomware, and make your device vulnerable to even more malware."

    114 million new pieces of malicious programs were developed in 2019, and 78.64 percent of all attacks were distributed on Windows systems. That number grows exponentially each year.

    On Android smartphones and pads... as of March 2020, the total number of new Android malware samples amounted to 482,579 per month.

    By comparison, on Apple devices the threat is very slim. Apple vets all 3rd party apps, free or paid, on the Apple Store.

    The technically sophisticated runtime protections in macOS work at the very core of a Mac to keep the system safe from malware. This starts with state-of-the-art antivirus software built in to block and remove malware.


    The best thing anyone can do who uses an Android device, a Windows PC or an Apple device is to use antivirus/malware software. Keep the software and virus/malware definitions updated. And finally, scan your devices regularly. Many people Do Not.

    We use all Mac's, iPhone's and iPad's here (and one Windows PC). I've set up each device to do automatic scans on a regular basis (every day). To date, no viruses or malware has been found on our Apple devices. The Windows PC however has had several infections (PITA).

    In addition, it is a solid plan to backup computers on a daily basis. Why? If you have a serious problem, it's fairly easy to restore a system from a known good backup. I have each of our machines setup to do backups daily. The backups are also scanned for viruses/malware. Our iOS devices get backed up to Apple's highly secure iCloud.
     

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    Temu does not appear to be anything like Amazon or eBay. Amazon has their internal CCU (Counterfeit Crimes Unit) who handle fake items. eBay also has their own internal investigators handing counterfeit items.

    Temu by their own admission "[...] does not have an internal or external entity to ensure sellers comply with Temu's Code of Conduct." IOW, Temu has protected itself.

    Fasttech was a reputable seller who warehoused nearly all the products they listed. One seller.

    On Temu anyone, anywhere in the world can sell items, with little to zero risk to the seller.

    Fake Apple items on Temu? Yes.


    No doubt there are sellers on Temu listing fake brand-name jeans, shoes, electronics etc. etc. Also zero doubt there are reputable sellers on Temu. Thing is, most of us would not know the difference between fake Levi (or insert brand) jeans or Nike's (or millions of other products) and the real thing. This isn't an issue when buying from known reputable websites.

    Having said that, people gotta do what people gotta do. Good luck!!! :)
     

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    ... I believe a big part of that is due to the much smaller user base.

    That and macOS is a Unix based operating system. It's far easier to write viruses and malware for Windows. Unix based systems are far more secure versus Windows. Also, the many flavors of Linux are more secure versus Windows.

    Malicious code can be written for any system. No system is 100% safe. The nefarious types have always preferred writing their wares for Windows.
     
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    These days malware is a major concern. Simply visiting a website, like Temu for example, can lead to a virus or malware infection. A malicious site may download a virus to your computer without your consent or permission.

    "Once malware is on your device, criminals can use it to steal your sensitive information, send you unwanted or inappropriate ads, demand payment to unscramble data encrypted by ransomware, and make your device vulnerable to even more malware."

    114 million new pieces of malicious programs were developed in 2019, and 78.64 percent of all attacks were distributed on Windows systems. That number grows exponentially each year.

    On Android smartphones and pads... as of March 2020, the total number of new Android malware samples amounted to 482,579 per month.

    By comparison, on Apple devices the threat is very slim. Apple vets all 3rd party apps, free or paid, on the Apple Store.

    The technically sophisticated runtime protections in macOS work at the very core of a Mac to keep the system safe from malware. This starts with state-of-the-art antivirus software built in to block and remove malware.


    The best thing anyone can do who uses an Android device, a Windows PC or an Apple device is to use antivirus/malware software. Keep the software and virus/malware definitions updated. And finally, scan your devices regularly. Many people Do Not.

    We use all Mac's, iPhone's and iPad's here (and one Windows PC). I've set up each device to do automatic scans on a regular basis (every day). To date, no viruses or malware has been found on our Apple devices. The Windows PC however has had several infections (PITA).

    In addition, it is a solid plan to backup computers on a daily basis. Why? If you have a serious problem, it's fairly easy to restore a system from a known good backup. I have each of our machines setup to do backups daily. The backups are also scanned for viruses/malware. Our iOS devices get backed up to Apple's highly secure iCloud.
    I’m a good girl about about virus and malware scans. There are none on my Windows PC.
     
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    Good evening. Work was the usual pain. I had a customer call that had a machine catch on fire that I put a circuit board in about six weeks ago. He acted like he thought it was our fault. The machine supposedly hadn’t been started in that time and wasn’t running when it caught on fire. I think the guy hauling it didn’t secure it and it tipped over and caught the fuel on fire.
     

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    These days malware is a major concern. Simply visiting a website, like Temu for example, can lead to a virus or malware infection. A malicious site may download a virus to your computer without your consent or permission.

    "Once malware is on your device, criminals can use it to steal your sensitive information, send you unwanted or inappropriate ads, demand payment to unscramble data encrypted by ransomware, and make your device vulnerable to even more malware."

    114 million new pieces of malicious programs were developed in 2019, and 78.64 percent of all attacks were distributed on Windows systems. That number grows exponentially each year.

    On Android smartphones and pads... as of March 2020, the total number of new Android malware samples amounted to 482,579 per month.

    By comparison, on Apple devices the threat is very slim. Apple vets all 3rd party apps, free or paid, on the Apple Store.

    The technically sophisticated runtime protections in macOS work at the very core of a Mac to keep the system safe from malware. This starts with state-of-the-art antivirus software built in to block and remove malware.


    The best thing anyone can do who uses an Android device, a Windows PC or an Apple device is to use antivirus/malware software. Keep the software and virus/malware definitions updated. And finally, scan your devices regularly. Many people Do Not.

    We use all Mac's, iPhone's and iPad's here (and one Windows PC). I've set up each device to do automatic scans on a regular basis (every day). To date, no viruses or malware has been found on our Apple devices. The Windows PC however has had several infections (PITA).

    In addition, it is a solid plan to backup computers on a daily basis. Why? If you have a serious problem, it's fairly easy to restore a system from a known good backup. I have each of our machines setup to do backups daily. The backups are also scanned for viruses/malware. Our iOS devices get backed up to Apple's highly secure iCloud.
    What do you use for backups? I do whole disk backups to external hard drives but not very often. Supposedly I can reboot from them after a disk failure though it looks complicated. And auto-upload selected files nightly.

    Tried a whole disk cloud backup once and it took almost 3 days to do one PC.
     

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    Good evening. Work was the usual pain. I had a customer call that had a machine catch on fire that I put a circuit board in about six weeks ago. He acted like he thought it was our fault. The machine supposedly hadn’t been started in that time and wasn’t running when it caught on fire. I think the guy hauling it didn’t secure it and it tipped over and caught the fuel on fire.
    Geezz, I hope your Friday is a better day.
     

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    What is everyone up to this evening? Anything interesting.


    No not interesting. Just housework and getting ready for weeks of downtime. I've washed my sheets, but still have to make my bed, and I've got to put the laundry in the dryer. In a little bit, I've got to shower with antimicrobial soap.
     

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    No not interesting. Just housework and getting ready for weeks of downtime. I've washed my sheets, but still have to make my bed, and I've got to put the laundry in the dryer. In a little bit, I've got to shower with antimicrobial soap.
    Good luck.
     
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    What do you use for backups? I do whole disk backups to external hard drives but not very often. Supposedly I can reboot from them after a disk failure though it looks complicated. And auto-upload selected files nightly.

    Tried a whole disk cloud backup once and it took almost 3 days to do one PC.
    I used Acronis true image before to clone a hard drive. It copied the hard drive on to a new hard drive in about an hour and a half.
     

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    What do you use for backups? I do whole disk backups to external hard drives but not very often. Supposedly I can reboot from them after a disk failure though it looks complicated. And auto-upload selected files nightly.

    Tried a whole disk cloud backup once and it took almost 3 days to do one PC.

    I have a some OWC Mercury Elite Pro (USB 3.2, eSATA, Firewire 800) and a few Mercury Elite Pro Dual with SSD's (Thunderbolt 2) for the Mac's and Windows PC. We are looking at replacing all the external drives with an OWC NAS (Network Attached Storage).

    I've been buying OWC's drives since the 90s. They are an excellent company to deal with. When we buy a new Mac we also buy an OWC external drive.


    My backup strategy is simple. Initially I did a complete backup on each machine. Then I setup our backup software to do daily incremental backups on each machine. Incremental backups only copy new data and any files (system or user) that have changed. I test the backups by booting off the backup drives once a month. We use Carbon Copy Cloner backup software on the Mac's. A restore only takes an hour (give or take).

    Our three Mac's used for the business each have a second backup drive that I rotate weekly. That way I know for certain there is always one known good backup.

    They use R-Drive Image on the Windows PC. DD1 and her husband take care of all the Windows stuff, I do my best to stay away from all things Windows. I manage a mix of laptop and desktop Mac's (10 total).

    Backing up an entire disk to a cloud service is slow. The time it takes depends on the speed of your internet connection. I wouldn't advise backing up the contents of a whole drive to the cloud. IMO, the only files that should go to the cloud are your critical data files. If you keep those well organized in a folder then it's simple. Just drag and drop that folder to the cloud.

    ETA: Fixed an error.
     
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