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    Thanks Zaz!

    The current surgical technology is very advanced for eyes, compared to when I was a young kid (1960's). But, we are no where near doing full eye transplants. The optic nerve and it's connections to the brain are the issue for full eye transplants. Can't do those yet.

    "The human optic nerve contains between 693,000 to 1,685,000 fibers, and their count decreases with age."

    For comparison, there are 864 fibers in a single high-capacity communications cable (telco/internet).

    "The main challenge is the inability to regenerate the optic nerve to reconnect the new eye to the brain, making functional sight impossible after the surgery at this time."

    "A whole eye was transplanted in May 2023 to a patient with severe electrical burns. The transplanted eye remains healthy with good blood flow, but the patient cannot see through it."

    "Even if the optic nerve could be surgically reattached, researchers need to find a way to make the new nerve fibers connect properly to the recipient's brain to restore vision, according to the American Academy of Ophthalmology."




    Correct. In my case it's a partial corneal transplant.

    Per my team, a full corneal transplant (PKP) is more risky versus partial cornea transplants. There is a greater risk of ones body rejecting a full cornea xplant (even with meds). And a much longer recovery time, up to one year, versus a partial, which typically takes 6-8 weeks (up to a few months).

    Not sure how in-depth your schooling or practice was regarding the specifics of the cornea. The cornea has 5 layers. A full transplant is all five layers. Each layer performs a unique function within the cornea.

    View attachment 1033751

    I'm having the Descemet's membrane and Endothelium transplanted (as one layer); due to complications from the surgery I had October 8th.

    Descemet Membrane Endothelial Keratoplasty (DMEK) is an advanced type of corneal transplant surgery used to treat diseases that affect the innermost layer of the cornea, called the endothelium. It's a high-tech microscopic surgery.

    My surgeon told me that combined the Descemet's membrane and Endothelium are 14-16um, or 0.014-0.016mm, or roughly the thickness of a human hair.

    He will make a 2mm incision in my eye, remove those two layers from my cornea and then transplant the donor tissue. Finally he will insert a gas bubble behind the new tissue, pressing it up against the Stroma. The gas bubble aids adherence to the rest of the cornea.

    It is possible that my body rejects the transplant (even with meds), then a second one would be performed. If that doesn't take then he would insert an artificial layer (which would need to be replaced at a later date). A full corneal transplant would remain as a future option.

    There are some pretty cool videos on YouTube that show the procedure.

    LOL, my team of ophthalmologist's know my eyes well. They repaired two different detached retinas in my right eye along with other eye surgeries. A detached retina is a risk with cornea surgery (true for just about any eye surgery).

    My right eye has a significantly sized optic nerve coloboma. It's a congenital defect where there is a gap or cavity in the optic nerve, caused by the incomplete closure of the embryonic fissure during eye development.

    Optic nerve colobomas are rare. Prevalence is around 0.5 to 0.7 per 10,000 births.

    Because of that, my right eye is considered legally blind (though there is vision, LOL). Vision is between 20/800 and 20/1000, and not correctable in any way.

    I'll have to find and post one of those photos. They are among the "more tame" pics I have.

    Eyes totally fascinate me. Always have.

    .............long post, LOLz :greengrin:


    I would probably need a full transplant (bilateral) although it is possible, but not likely a deep. anterior, down to Decsemet's layer (DALK transplant) could be possible. I haven't been evaluated for transplant yet. Right now, with the expense hybrid contact lenses, I can see well enough to drive, but just barely. If my vision deteriorates to the point of not being able to drive, then I'll consider transplant. I would insist on cataract surgery at the same time. I have cataracts, but not bad.
     

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    This one is not my eye, but it is an excellent procedural photo, representative of someone undergoing a detached retina surgery (vitrectomy with scleral buckling).

    It is part of a detached retina surgery where a scleral buckle (white silicon band seen below) is placed and positioned around the outside wall of the eye. The buckle provides permanent post-surgical support to keep the retina in place so it can heal.

    I had two detached retina surgeries in my right eye (vitrectomy, scleral buckle, silicone oil). A vitrectomy is a surgical procedure to remove the vitreous gel from the eye in order to repair a detached retina. In my case silicone oil was inserted (replaces vitreous gel); then was removed in a follow-up surgery 6 months later. It was replaced with a balanced saline solution (mixture of salt and water).
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    Pretty cool photo. :greengrin:
     

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    This one is not my eye, but it is an excellent procedural photo, representative of someone undergoing a detached retina surgery (vitrectomy with scleral buckling).

    It is part of a detached retina surgery where a scleral buckle (white silicon band seen below) is placed and positioned around the outside wall of the eye. The buckle provides permanent post-surgical support to keep the retina in place so it can heal.

    I had two detached retina surgeries in my right eye (vitrectomy, scleral buckle, silicone oil). A vitrectomy is a surgical procedure to remove the vitreous gel from the eye in order to repair a detached retina. In my case silicone oil was inserted (replaces vitreous gel); then was removed in a follow-up surgery 6 months later. It was replaced with a balanced saline solution (mixture of salt and water).
    View attachment 1033757

    Pretty cool photo. :greengrin:
    It's cool that they can fix eyes.
     

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    Good morning........ :greengrin:

    Looking all over for my eye stuff. Was told we put them in storage. Me, I'm not so sure. Was asked why I want it. To share online. Was told "do not do that". Why? "Just please don't."

    So then, still looking for my eye stuff, just in case it's here. LOL

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    This is what a normal retina, optic nerve and retina blood supply look like.
    Normal.jpg

    The optic nerve is the bright area, the blood vessels come from the central retinal artery which travels in or beside the optic nerve. The retina is a circular disc with a diameter of 30 to 40 mm and an area of about 1,094 square mm.

    This is one example of an optic nerve coloboma. It's very similar to the one in my right eye.
    Optic-nerve-coloboma.jpg

    Optic nerve coloboma's come in all shapes and sizes. They cannot be surgically repaired. Perhaps in the distant future, just not in 2025.

    How do they get those photos? Pupil dilation + decent camera.

    A fair number of folks don't know that the pupil is not a solid mass. It's the hole that light passes through to the retina. The cornea protects the pupil (among other cool things). The lens inside our eye, just behind the pupil, focuses light onto the retina.

    "When light hits the retina (a light-sensitive layer of tissue at the back of the eye), special cells called photoreceptors turn the light into electrical signals. These electrical signals travel from the retina through the optic nerve to the brain. Then the brain turns the signals into the images you see."
     

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    This is what a normal retina, optic nerve and retina blood supply look like.
    View attachment 1033762
    The optic nerve is the bright area, the blood vessels come from the central retinal artery which travels in or beside the optic nerve. The retina is a circular disc with a diameter of 30 to 40 mm and an area of about 1,094 square mm.

    This is one example of an optic nerve coloboma. It's very similar to the one in my right eye.
    View attachment 1033763
    Optic nerve coloboma's come in all shapes and sizes. They cannot be surgically repaired. Perhaps in the distant future, just not in 2025.

    How do they get those photos? Pupil dilation + decent camera.

    A fair number of folks don't know that the pupil is not a solid mass. It's the hole that light passes through to the retina. The cornea protects the pupil (among other cool things). The lens inside our eye, just behind the pupil, focuses light onto the retina.

    "When light hits the retina (a light-sensitive layer of tissue at the back of the eye), special cells called photoreceptors turn the light into electrical signals. These electrical signals travel from the retina through the optic nerve to the brain. Then the brain turns the signals into the images you see."
    Cool pics.
     
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    Territoo

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    Since we're sharing pics, this is a pic of the radial keratotomy eye (not mine). The lines radiating out from the pupil are the corneal incisions. I had my eye surgery in the early 90s, before Lasik was a thing. The incisions fllatten the cornea, improving far vision. Trouble is the cornea continues to flatten leading to overcorrection and in my case, the cornea became irregular, so I have trouble with both near and far vision.. As bad as my eyes are, I'm a lot better off than SMT. Right now, my vision can mostly be corrected with the contacts and reading glasses.

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    still searching, meanwhile......

    This is what a normal retina, optic nerve and retina blood supply look like.
    View attachment 1033762
    The optic nerve is the bright area, the blood vessels come from the central retinal artery which travels in or beside the optic nerve. The retina is a circular disc with a diameter of 30 to 40 mm and an area of about 1,094 square mm.

    This is one example of an optic nerve coloboma. It's very similar to the one in my right eye.
    View attachment 1033763
    Optic nerve coloboma's come in all shapes and sizes. They cannot be surgically repaired. Perhaps in the distant future, just not in 2025.

    How do they get those photos? Pupil dilation + decent camera.

    A fair number of folks don't know that the pupil is not a solid mass. It's the hole that light passes through to the retina. The cornea protects the pupil (among other cool things). The lens inside our eye, just behind the pupil, focuses light onto the retina.

    "When light hits the retina (a light-sensitive layer of tissue at the back of the eye), special cells called photoreceptors turn the light into electrical signals. These electrical signals travel from the retina through the optic nerve to the brain. Then the brain turns the signals into the images you see."
    I'd share a Polaroid of my eye taken during my first bout of optic neuritis, but I can't remember where it is.
     

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    Good morning, hitt.:) Hope you get out at noon.
    We put together 19 machines in 3.5 hours. I left before 11 and the boss went ahead and paid us for five hours.
     

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    Still looking. Still being told, it's in storage. :lol:

    Found all sorts of other stuff that I haven't seen in who knows how long. Tossed some. Other stuff got put back as "I might need this someday" items. LOL

    Hmmm, eye stuff just might be in storage, as I was told. :facepalm:
     

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    I went out and mowed. There were lots of leaves again which is a pain because they fill the mower bag quickly. That’s done for now anyway. The big pear tree is just starting to drop leaves. I’m hoping the wife doesn’t have any chores for me so I can rest now.
     

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