Rayon wick, better flow, flavor, saturation and Nic Hit!

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kayfun Rayon users!

How are you wicking your Kayfuns? Are you stuffing it down against the deck after the chimney is inserted or are you laying a "tube" of wick on each side against the inner deck away from the juice holes? Or what?

What's the best way of wicking with Rayon you've found?

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This is mine after my 5th tank.

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For some reason it looks like the wick at the edges have collapsed, but it really hasn't. #poorphotography


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Hello fellow Rayon'ers, Im here to report that the tobecco aqua clone is a badass with rayon wicks. Im just high from nicotine, and im powering thru the 4th tank of my honeydew melon. In other news, my buddys igo-w has been wicked with rayon for over a month, and looks like brand new. Its insane, he uses the thing everyday and it has gone thru many many ML's not a funky color spot or flaw anywhere. This stuff is the work of witchcraft...

:) :)

Thanks for the report! And if you haven't posted before welcome!

Sounds like you've got the density perfect on those. We would be dying to see a close up pic of that igo w. Geez 1 month and it looks perfect. Do you know the ohms and is it on a mech.

Will have to check out that aqua clone.

Witchcraft? Lol well it's alive! If you treat it right it just keeps going and going.

It's been the holy grail I dreamed of - a self cleaning coil.
 

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Does it look like its loose because of the heavy gauge wire. I've noticed in pics if it's 28 or 26 the coil will be bigger looking than the rayon. Where as with my 32 builds it looks more like its the same size as the coil. I'm guessing that's twisted 28?

Quad twisted 32ga. And yeah I think you're right. Heavy gauge wires makes it look like there's too little rayon. Probably just the height contrast between the fatty wire and the level of the rayon.

Anyways at this point it's safe to say that the rayon has settled in. 5x 4.5ml on a 100vg NET with no distilled water. Granted it's a very clean burning net (HHV dragon's fire). Wick is well broken in; dense and very juicy, no dry hits or weird taste.

EDIT: whoops. It's double twisted32ga + twisted with 0.7 x 0.1 mm ribbon:
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Yeap. No rayon over the juice channel at all.

My iPhone couldn't capture it well enough, but there are some signs of gunking just starting to form in the crevices between each wrap. But heck, I'm very pleased with the results as it is.

Also, good pun.

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that looks sweet!! Did you do any trimming on the tails at all?

Mmm... Yeah. What I did was pull the rayon through and saturate the crap outta it with juice (btw, these wicks... So so so tiny but they can hold SO MUCH juice o_O)

ANYWAYS.

Then I lay the wick straight down, and snipped the wick such that it touches the juice deck exactly. That's pretty much it really. I didn't really do anything special from what I normally wick a kayfun.

ETA: BTW pls don't be misled by my picture. JeremyR has a lot of pictures showing the desired density of rayon needed when freshly wicked. Mine was like that, with the good ole fluff at the edge of the coil. The picture I shared shows how it looks like AFTER the wicks have really settled down and "collapsed" to a stable "thickness"

If your fresh wick looks like mine in the pictures, it'll turn out to be too little rayon. (Personal experience)
 
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Then I lay the wick straight down, and snipped the wick such that it touches the juice deck exactly. That's pretty much it really. I didn't really do anything special from what I normally wick a kayfun.

Same here and it works perfectly.
Every time I try to 'improve' something it goes in the toilet...
 

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Then I lay the wick straight down, and snipped the wick such that it touches the juice deck exactly. That's pretty much it really. I didn't really do anything special from what I normally wick a kayfun.

ok, so I should have used different wording. I meant did you thin the tails out. I understand you trimmed it to the right length and if im correct you did NOT thin the tails at all or reduce the size of the shoulders? Others say they do that on Kayfuns to ease the pressure of the chimney against the wick. Thanks!
 

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Oops right right. That's a 2mm id coil. And I actually didn't thin the tails at all; in fact I had completely forgotten that I "needed" to do it. Which reminds me.....

My tail at first was very big. The one thing I did do was spend a solid amount of time saturating the hell out of it and "pasting" the wick against the positive block before reassembling the kayfun (have I mentioned how much juice the thing holds?!) it basically looked like an upside down fan.

The other thing I forgot to mention was that after each of the first 3 tanks, I did disassemble the atty to check the wick and coil. Each time, the wicks got flatter against the positive block. So what I did was use a screw driver to push the wicks and kinda consolidate it towards the middle of the positive block. It's been looking the same after the 4 and 5th tank and I haven't touched the wick.
 

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Oops right right. That's a 2mm id coil. And I actually didn't thin the tails at all; in fact I had completely forgotten that I "needed" to do it. Which reminds me.....

My tail at first was very big. The one thing I did do was spend a solid amount of time saturating the hell out of it and "pasting" the wick against the positive block before reassembling the kayfun (have I mentioned how much juice the thing holds?!) it basically looked like an upside down fan.

The other thing I forgot to mention was that after each of the first 3 tanks, I did disassemble the atty to check the wick and coil. Each time, the wicks got flatter against the positive block. So what I did was use a screw driver to push the wicks and kinda consolidate it towards the middle of the positive block. It's been looking the same after the 4 and 5th tank and I haven't touched the wick.

TheKiwi,

I do it like you do but I don't find it necessary to re-manipulate after the first setup.... too lazy and it works fine. Oh- just shy of 3mm coil.
 

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TheKiwi,

I do it like you do but I don't find it necessary to re-manipulate after the first setup.... too lazy and it works fine. Oh- just shy of 3mm coil.

Haha yeah I didn't think it was particularly necessary, and honestly have no clue if it made any difference. I only did it because I had it disassembled for inspection and was feeling OCD.

Anyways yeah. Point is that it seems like trimming the tail isn't particularly necessary? I dunno. Hmm
 

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Haha yeah I didn't think it was particularly necessary, and honestly have no clue if it made any difference. I only did it because I had it disassembled for inspection and was feeling OCD.

Anyways yeah. Point is that it seems like trimming the tail isn't particularly necessary? I dunno. Hmm

Funny I was going to mention OCD which I believe plagues most vapors including myself. The only thing that stopped me from fiddling was if I take the chimney off I'll mess something up. ;) It was working and if I fiddle I might never get it the same. i.e. working don't fix it - which is a very hard concept for me.
 

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K kiwi, as far as thinning tails it seems it is different for each atty and how you build it. I don't seem to have good results in a dripper is I don't thin it .. Obviously since a my dripper builds are thinned to a 1/4.

Whatever works! You know it works when the coils are clean like that so we know what your doing is working well for you. :)
 
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