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It might be all in my head, but I seem to be getting a lack of flavor and a lot cooler of a vape, compared to when I was running the same coil, but with horizontal coils w/ KGD vs. the 2mm RxW and slanted coils...

The unflavored taste's just the same as always (lol, maybe even a little cleaner?...its the same fresh hit every-time) and relatively the same amount of vapor.
The flavored liquid is what's giving me a wee bit of skepticism. It's good, but its not the same type of vape- less umph, flavor, vapor...ect.. It might just be this particular flavor is muted for me right now/or the build isn't perfect for it (wakonda from nicoticket). I have run similar coil position, minus the slanted part, with this juice before... I don't know... I usually dilute it with some VG, and I might just have to play with that a little better...

It has only been 24 hours since I built these and have been using them. 2 identical builds (28g 1/16" duals, netting 0.5ohms) I've used about 4ml of juice in each, and have changed batteries twice. RDA is the odin BF.

Any thoughts? I can upload pics if you wanna see em'. I've read mixed reports of how it (RxW) tastes/wicks...some seem to say it takes a new wick about a day to reach its full throttle? Im just wondering if its gonna get any better, or if I should try the 3mm or a different build/make adjustments, or just stick it out a little and try get a better flavor/unflavored ratio down...Im just gonna switch to "the switch", lol, its a NET liquid from NT as well...
 
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It might be all in my head, but I seem to be getting a lack of flavor and a lot cooler of a vape, compared to when I was running the same coil, but with horizontal coils w/ KGD vs. the 2mm RxW and slanted coils...

The unflavored taste's just the same as always (lol, maybe even a little cleaner?...its the same fresh hit every-time) and relatively the same amount of vapor.
The flavored liquid is what's giving me a wee bit of skepticism. It's good, but its not the same type of vape- less umph, flavor, vapor...ect.. It might just be this particular flavor is muted for me right now/or the build isn't perfect for it (wakonda from nicoticket). I have run similar coil position, minus the slanted part, with this juice before... I don't know... I usually dilute it with some VG, and I might just have to play with that a little better...

It has only been 24 hours since I built these and have been using them. 2 identical builds (28g 1/16" duals, netting 0.5ohms) I've used about 4ml of juice in each, and have changed batteries twice. RDA is the odin BF.

Any thoughts? I can upload pics if you wanna see em'. I've read mixed reports of how it (RxW) tastes/wicks...some seem to say it takes a new wick about a day to reach its full throttle? Im just wondering if its gonna get any better, or if I should try the 3mm or a different build/make adjustments, or just stick it out a little and try get a better flavor/unflavored ratio down...Im just gonna switch to "the switch", lol, its a NET liquid from NT as well...

I find that RxW changes the flavour profile, especially with complex juices. I wouldn't say muted per se, though - I just get different dominant notes. For example, I have a candied licorice that I like (don't judge me). With cotton, it's all about the licorice but with RxW (same atty, same build) it's the candied aspect that dominates the flavour.

I'd suggest trying some different juices to get a sense of what sets up nicely with it, 'cause once you find a good setup with it, the RxW sure is nice for maintenance.
 

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I find that RxW changes the flavour profile, especially with complex juices. I wouldn't say muted per se, though - I just get different dominant notes. For example, I have a candied licorice that I like (don't judge me). With cotton, it's all about the licorice but with RxW (same atty, same build) it's the candied aspect that dominates the flavour.

I'd suggest trying some different juices to get a sense of what sets up nicely with it, 'cause once you find a good setup with it, the RxW sure is nice for maintenance.

Cool and thanks. I actually remember reading your post about that, somewhere in the middle of this thread... I'm pretty sure Ive read every page now. :blush:

I think you're right... Im expecting the same flavor I did with cotton/rayon... Ive been wondering why its been tasting weird today... I hadn't completely emptied this bottle, so the other flavor might be messing with the taste a bit. I think I haven't gotten used to how long of a squonk this stuff like either...

Pretty excited to try this NET now.... dilluted down quite a bit....
 

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I use the little purple luer lock needle. Can't remember what gauge it is. Never did know its numerical diameter.

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I find that RxW changes the flavour profile, especially with complex juices. I wouldn't say muted per se, though - I just get different dominant notes. For example, I have a candied licorice that I like (don't judge me). With cotton, it's all about the licorice but with RxW (same atty, same build) it's the candied aspect that dominates the flavour.

I'd suggest trying some different juices to get a sense of what sets up nicely with it, 'cause once you find a good setup with it, the RxW sure is nice for maintenance.

Off topic...sort of: Candied licorice flavor? Have you tried Rad n Plenty from Namberjuice? Tastes just like a Good n Plenty to me which is one of my favs.
 

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I find that RxW changes the flavour profile, especially with complex juices. I wouldn't say muted per se, though - I just get different dominant notes. For example, I have a candied licorice that I like (don't judge me). With cotton, it's all about the licorice but with RxW (same atty, same build) it's the candied aspect that dominates the flavour.

I'd suggest trying some different juices to get a sense of what sets up nicely with it, 'cause once you find a good setup with it, the RxW sure is nice for maintenance.

Some interesting observations Papa. I've lost count of the builds I've done on Kangers with Nextel XC-132 personally and with others. Quite a few have been with juice makers and B&M owners. Recently, I had the occasion to do a flavor station with one of them who is very much involved nationally with boutique flavor makers. Despite the fact we've been discussing the potential of this wick material for a year, he get's the theory, there is nothing in the end like the taste test.

When he sampled his own in-house boutique line at the install undergoing the necessary 1/8th tank break in…how should I describe it…his jaw dropped. He remarked that he had never detected some of the unique flavors that this combination, Nextel and a precision tensioned contact coil were revealing.

So I would put it that way. Ceramic fiber wicks reveal nuances of flavor that are absent in other common build configurations.

I believe there are very distinct reasons for this. Some I've posted on this thread. But in brief when the media breaks in and the inter fiber spaces expand the wick provides broad pathways for complex constituents in juice, dense agglomeration, to flow through efficiently, unimpeded and so unmitigated. Not trapped, bunched or accumulated in any way. It flows exceedingly well. I believe this velocity of transport also inhibits the settling or accumulation within the fiber. One of the reasons as well that it wicks so clean by comparison to most organics with complex juices. In general, there are exceptions, dense organics being one of them.

The above reaction however is one I see time and again with many who've merely experienced organic media or silica and not ceramic media in an optimized build.

I still prefer cotton and KGD in particular, again because of some of the very nuances you allude to. I don't believe any media is perfect for all purposes. But I agree with you that coupled with its durability Nextel is one powerhouse of a wick material.

Thanks for your comments papa.

Good luck.

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Off topic...sort of: Candied licorice flavor? Have you tried Rad n Plenty from Namberjuice? Tastes just like a Good n Plenty to me which is one of my favs.

Sadly, my access to US juice is limited to Canadian redistributors (customs has cracked down of late), so I haven't tried any Namberjuice. The mix I like is based on the Goodies candy (which may or may not be a Canadian/UK thing). Good to know I'm not a cohort of one, though.
 

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It might be all in my head, but I seem to be getting a lack of flavor and a lot cooler of a vape, compared to when I was running the same coil, but with horizontal coils w/ KGD vs. the 2mm RxW and slanted coils...

The unflavored taste's just the same as always (lol, maybe even a little cleaner?...its the same fresh hit every-time) and relatively the same amount of vapor.
The flavored liquid is what's giving me a wee bit of skepticism. It's good, but its not the same type of vape- less umph, flavor, vapor...ect.. It might just be this particular flavor is muted for me right now/or the build isn't perfect for it (wakonda from nicoticket). I have run similar coil position, minus the slanted part, with this juice before... I don't know... I usually dilute it with some VG, and I might just have to play with that a little better...

It has only been 24 hours since I built these and have been using them. 2 identical builds (28g 1/16" duals, netting 0.5ohms) I've used about 4ml of juice in each, and have changed batteries twice. RDA is the odin BF.

Any thoughts? I can upload pics if you wanna see em'. I've read mixed reports of how it (RxW) tastes/wicks...some seem to say it takes a new wick about a day to reach its full throttle? Im just wondering if its gonna get any better, or if I should try the 3mm or a different build/make adjustments, or just stick it out a little and try get a better flavor/unflavored ratio down...Im just gonna switch to "the switch", lol, its a NET liquid from NT as well...

A 1/16" will yield the best deflection (compression) into the media which yields more vapor. So it's all about juice. More flow, more vapor and flavor. And this media can definitely handle the power. So where Nextel is concerned, the more diameter your build can handle the better. More juice, more output. The wick can deliver. If you like .5Ω 07" Ø, wire gauge #51 and 16 gauge blunt needle size would be an alternative on the way up from that. It will definitely be easier threading.

It takes typically 1/4-1/2 ml of juice to start breaking in the internal flow on Nextel. Might be a bit longer wound tighter at 1/16 dripping I surmise. Once it happens and after the first wash you're golden. But I really just suggest giving it more gas.

I'f you're getting cooler, you're on the right track. You're build's tight and getting efficient. You can always lower resistance to hit your temperature target. Pedal to the metal.

Nextel loves VG, but I'll add you're going to need some air flow!

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Good luck.
 
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I find that RxW changes the flavour profile, especially with complex juices. I wouldn't say muted per se, though - I just get different dominant notes. For example, I have a candied licorice that I like (don't judge me). With cotton, it's all about the licorice but with RxW (same atty, same build) it's the candied aspect that dominates the flavour.

I'd suggest trying some different juices to get a sense of what sets up nicely with it, 'cause once you find a good setup with it, the RxW sure is nice for maintenance.

Agree 100% every type of wicking material produces a slightly different flavor coming out on top. In the past i had SS mesh flavors and ekowool flavors and silica flavors and would only vape each on the wicking I thought tasted the best to me.

Now I vape everything on 3mm RxW and though it might be slightly different its still awesome and the other benefits outweigh any slight flavor change IMO.
 

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Yaaay! Its a 16 guage. I have a 14, a 16 and a 17. Thank you so much for clarifying that for me. I will be copying and keeping that chart because I'll forget soon. Thanks alot, my friend.:)
Edit: Perhaps I should try wrapping with the 17 guage needle and if I can thread the 2mm Readyxwick into it--see if it works out better.

16guage should be perfect fro the 2mm! That's what I use, just a tad larger than 1/16" and easier to thread,be sure to cut RdX at an angle and screw into the coil. :)
 

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Finally! I figured out our new camera. It's been sitting here a long time and I was intimidated so was ignoring it. Turns out it's not so hard to use.

Ok MacTech, here ya go! And thanks for offering to take a look. These coils are about 3 weeks old. I pulled the RxW out so they can be seen better.







I used the 16 g leur lock for these so they aren't as tight as the ones I make on my gizmo. I'm doing them vertically because I seem to get less seepage out of the airholes this way. Good? Bad? Room for improvement?
 

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Just a thought Penny, you should re-wrap those on the gizmo, but in the opposite direction so the +lead goes straight into the +post. I am guessing they would be easier to mount and wick overall. It is good to hear you have less seepage with the vertical's though. Might have to give those a try...
 

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I'll try that, thanks! What I did with these two coils was mount them horizontally at first and once I had them in place and everything was tightened up I inserted my leur lock into them and turned them vertically. There does seem to be less seepage. It was either this or mount the coils further away from the air holes.
 

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I'll try that, thanks! What I did with these two coils was mount them horizontally at first and once I had them in place and everything was tightened up I inserted my leur lock into them and turned them vertically. There does seem to be less seepage. It was either this or mount the coils further away from the air holes.
Yeah i usually mount horizontal on my odin then take my bit and flip em.. seems to work but still some seepage. Thinking of taking a dremel and doing a lil mod to take off some of the flat surface for the neg posts. If that makrs sense. Like kinda make them angle in towards the well. Hard to explain in txting! Ill post pics when i get the dremel going!!

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