Reo Clones?

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pesky_human

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Are patent laws only affective in the US, or country of origin or are they world wide patents? How is china able to get around the patent laws to clone. I don't understand the laws I guess. I always heard a patent was a license to steal.

I just dont get it. I have seen antique gun shows and how during wars one allie would sell the rights of a gun patent to another country. How can someone just rip off a patent with out litigation. Or does the stuff being cloned not have a patent?

Been wondering about this for sometime now.


Patents only have effect in the countries where they are actually enforced. Without looking I am pretty sure that China is not a signatory to the Berne Convention (the major international IP treaty that governs patents). If you are manufacturing in a non-Berne country, it's a free for all. If you are in Shanghai, you can buy NBA jerseys, DVDs of movies in the theater, and King clones - all for under $5. Expect a steep drop in quality on all ends.

The guys that clone domestically, like that Reddit clown, are such small fries that it isn't even worth going after them because they won't exist in 6 months. You can expect zero customer service - most of these d*&*heads don't even have a website / location / phone number to call, and they sell $200 mods 2-3 at a time so they are going to make a few Gs a year on people who are too slow to find the reosmods.com website.

When you are a true pimp player hustler OG, you don't mess up your shoes stepping over the poop that comes in your way.

As someone who is actually schooled in IP, it makes my blood boil, but his tact towards the vultures is 100% on point.

Rob's attitude towards the clones is very healthy because doing this full time and retaining quality control is actually a business, and it's hard.
If you doubt this, consider how long it took for Rob to drop the low-ohm kits. He didn't just go out and source random parts. He tried what he got, scrapped the BS, and produced something that would actually work. He did the hard work of R&D so that he saved himself thousands of calls when anything that was half-.....ed didn't work. It's brilliant manufacturing, really. Customers happy. Sell a couple of thousand kits. Upgrade your entire line to stay with current trends.

Innovate.

Stack paper.

Make more cool stuff for your rabid fan base.

Repeat.
 

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Can't speak for all the Reonauts.....But I feel your apology should be accepted....
Mistakes can be forgiven......man profits from them.....
The earlier suggestions to sell off your old stuff/squirrel away $$/buy a blem/scope the classies......are all valid....
And will likely land you where you TRULY want to be.....
Here in REOVILLE!:D
You have to understand....when you come in "swinging"....someone's gonna "swing" back!!;)
Happy (vaping) Trails!
 

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Jeeze. I was just asking. Knew I was gonna get flamed. Sorry for being a noob anyway. I've been told it's always better to ask. Now I just feel like an idiot.

Sorry I didn't know not to post here. I'm still new and Was just wondering. Close the thread. I'm sorry.

I understand your predicament from your first post, but being tactful goes a long way. When I first entertained the idea of getting a REO I wanted to try an inexpensive bottom feeder first to see if I liked the concept. So, I researched that first - outside of the REO forum, bought a cheapie, then moved up to the REO. Asking about an inexpensive bottom feeder in one of the general forums instead of asking about clones here probably would have been the way to go.

But that is water under the bridge, and we're a pretty forgiving bunch. Do what you gotta do (sell some stuff, check classies, save up) and we'll see you on the flip side. :)
 

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Sorry I didn't know not to post here. I'm still new and Was just wondering. Close the thread. I'm sorry.
NO need to run off I do agree this wasn't the place to start a post like you did . I understand money is tight been there many times in my life . Feel free to pm or email me I am sure I can find something for you that wont break the bank .
 

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NO need to run off I do agree this wasn't the place to start a post like you did . I understand money is tight been there many times in my life . Feel free to pm or email me I am sure I can find something for you that wont break the bank .

WOW! This right here is why I'm a lifelong REO customer/fan. WOW!
 

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NO need to run off I do agree this wasn't the place to start a post like you did . I understand money is tight been there many times in my life . Feel free to pm or email me I am sure I can find something for you that wont break the bank .

You are a bad AYuss Rob. Damn you never cease to amaze me with your genuine care for us hooples.

Rock on brother :)
 

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NO need to run off I do agree this wasn't the place to start a post like you did . I understand money is tight been there many times in my life . Feel free to pm or email me I am sure I can find something for you that wont break the bank .

Nighttowl, now you see why there is nothing like a Reo. Show me some other manufacturer that would respond to you personally!!
 
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NO need to run off I do agree this wasn't the place to start a post like you did . I understand money is tight been there many times in my life . Feel free to pm or email me I am sure I can find something for you that wont break the bank .

...See if you can get service like that from Mitsopanayugigoocha Clone Company Ltd. over in the far east!
 

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NO need to run off I do agree this wasn't the place to start a post like you did . I understand money is tight been there many times in my life . Feel free to pm or email me I am sure I can find something for you that wont break the bank .

God... rob you are such an awesome guy! I can't wait to get a reo and be able to be in this community of awesome people. :D
 

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NO need to run off I do agree this wasn't the place to start a post like you did . I understand money is tight been there many times in my life . Feel free to pm or email me I am sure I can find something for you that wont break the bank .

BOOM!!! (mushroom cloud) !!

How many email responses in Chinese have you gotton so far??
Can't put a price on customer service my friend!
I have a feeling you will have a REO in your hand before you know it, someway, somehow. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if someone here in REOville actually donates one to you!!! That's how we roll. If I had an extra one I would just knowing that when you got it you would say"man, what was I thinking"???? :confused:
 
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