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Rig Mod Explodes

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  1. smacuser

    smacuser Vapid Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Jan 22, 2012
    Vape Augustine, FL
    Weed out the weak!
     
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  2. Robert Cromwell

    Robert Cromwell Moved On ECF Veteran

    Feb 16, 2015
    elsewhere
    Wouldn't protect any of them. That is my point.
    Never vented a battery or even got one hot and I vaped with some recycled 4.5 a CDR ICR laptop batteries for a while. Kept them within their limits and used them in decent equipment.
     
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  3. edyle

    edyle ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    My thoughts:

    1: "Day of a cloud comp, local shop is hosting three comps one of which is a .1 Tube Class."

    That says a lot.

    2: " A few hours before the comp is scheduled to begin a customer in the shop asks an employee for help. His mod won't fire."

    Sounds like the customer is a newb; sounds like the shop was doing a poor job

    As for the rda being able to screw directly into the tube instead of using the pinless topcap, since the customers sounds like a newb, maybe he didn't even know that and wasn't using it in that mode.
     
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  4. Robert Cromwell

    Robert Cromwell Moved On ECF Veteran

    Feb 16, 2015
    elsewhere
    The kool cloud factor is what draws some to vaping. And they want to start out running 200 watts and blowing clouds before they learn any safety stuff.
     
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  5. crxess

    crxess Grumpy Ole Man Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 20, 2012
    Williamsport Md
    Oh look, Drag racing seems neat. Think I'll buy a Funny Car :facepalm:
     
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  6. Rule62

    Rule62 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 28, 2011
    Melbourne, Florida
    Exactly! Wasn't there a story a while back about a guy who bought a Challenger Hellcat? He didn't get 2 miles from the dealership before he totaled it.
     
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  7. sofarsogood

    sofarsogood Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Oct 12, 2014
    I avoid being around people using mech mods. I call them suicide bombers. If the tubes were adequately vented I might feel differently.
     
  8. bobwho77

    bobwho77 Super Member ECF Veteran

    May 8, 2014
    Ypsilanti mi
    Haven't seen the point of "competitive" vaping, but then again, I'm not a "cloud chaser" style of vaper.
     
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  9. Robert Cromwell

    Robert Cromwell Moved On ECF Veteran

    Feb 16, 2015
    elsewhere
    I drill vent holes around the tops of my tube mech mods.
     
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  10. Rule62

    Rule62 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 28, 2011
    Melbourne, Florida
    I've been vaping for 5 years, and using mechanicals for nearly the entire time. I use REOs exclusively now, but I have a shelf full of retired mech tubes, RDAs, and genisis RBAs.
    I don't recall this stuff ever being an issue, other than reading about an occasional Ego failure, due to improper charging.
    It seems to have only become an issue in the last couple years, with the advent of cloud comps/chasing, rewrapped batteries, which are being falsely rated above manufacturer specs, and super low building.
    Tube mod comp class, with the limit set at .1 ohm or above? Seriously!? There is no 18650 battery on the planet that will safely handle a .1 ohm build. That's 42 amps, on full charge. C'mon, people. I don't care how many holes you drill in your mod, or where you drill them. It's still not safe.
    Whatever happened to building attys with sufficient headroom below the battery CDR?
    Sorry for the rant.
     
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  11. Robert Cromwell

    Robert Cromwell Moved On ECF Veteran

    Feb 16, 2015
    elsewhere
    Moar Klowdz for daze.
     
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  12. Rule62

    Rule62 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 28, 2011
    Melbourne, Florida
    Yeah, I know. That's what bugs me. IMO, if you can't get sufficient clouds while building within safe CDR limits of the battery; you don't know what you're doing.
    Simple as that.
     
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  13. milandjikic

    milandjikic Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 15, 2014
    Edmonton, Canada
    And all that could have been avoided by using proper batteries, not a rewraps of a rewrap...
    Mxjo, Efest... same thing.
    A real 20A battery will handle those 4A over specs with no issue. I tested my AW on 30A and it hasn't even warmed up. Tested my 18500 AW at .2 resistance and same thing, they stay cool as they were. They will pick up some heat from atty and mod, but on a 5 sec test fire, before the heat is transfered from the atty to the mod and battery, batteries are staying at room temp.
    And as i have stated before on some Canadian FB vape groups, a mech mod without locking sistem and a proper ventilation on both sides of the mod is a ticking bomb. I have ended up being expelled from one such group for talking nonsense, but hey, i don't care any more. Stopped caring after seeing some of baditudes from people in those groups...
    That guy in the shop ha probably put the battery upside down, and if the battery i flat nipple, the switch could have easily short the battery. The battery shouldn't explode without over heating first, but then again, i don't consider MXJO as a trustworthy brand.
    Someone above mentioned he was using laptop batteries. Same here, used them over one year, was so broken with money i couldn't afford a decent battery (being broken was the reason i swithced to vaping), but just by following a common sense and not letting my resistance goes under 1.2 Ohm i never had any troubles with it. It all comes down to paying attention to what you do, and use some logic. If you can't do that, buy a regulated mod with internal battery to save your self from blowing your limbs up.
     
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  14. Bad Ninja

    Bad Ninja Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jun 26, 2013
    God's Country
    Well, its obvious the battery was installed upside down.

    It vented out the positive pole as normal, but because it was installed upside down, it blew out the switch.

    None of those fools should be touching mechs, IMHO.
     
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  15. Bad Ninja

    Bad Ninja Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jun 26, 2013
    God's Country
    It wouldnt have mattered in the OPs incident.

    The battery was installed incorrectly
     
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  16. Baditude

    Baditude ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Apr 8, 2012
    Ridgeway, Ohio
    I've used a mech off and on for over four years. I did have a battery explode about 2 weeks in with my first mech, but that was user error on my part. My only prior experience with batteries was with flashlights, and if you left the power switch on too long you just drained the battery dead. The power switch on my mech got pressed too long when it was in my pocket in a pair of pants hanging in my locker at work, over-discharged the battery and it went into thermal runaway. Wow, who would have known batteries can explode?! o_O This incident prompted me to learn more about batteries and safe vaping practices.

    The vape shop where I used to work had competitive cloud chasing competitions all the time. I never participated nor did I really approve of them. I saw them akin to immature boys pissing in the snow to see who could pee the farthest. I never was the type to try to impress my buddies with how much vapor my vape toy could make, either. I guess I'm just a grumpy old man. :grr:

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  17. skoony

    skoony Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jul 31, 2013
    saint paul,mn,usa
    8/100th of an ohm? The OP's guy was running 0.17, 17/100's of a ohm.
    Isn't 0.17 the lowest one would would run? Using the best available battery.
     
  18. Bad Ninja

    Bad Ninja Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jun 26, 2013
    God's Country
    Again, the build in the OPs Rig wouldnt have mattered.
    It would have happened with a. 1.7 ohm build.
     
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  19. Baditude

    Baditude ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Apr 8, 2012
    Ridgeway, Ohio
    The best battery with the highest continuous discharge rate has a true 32A CDR (according to Mooch's research).
    LG HB6 Pink 30A 1500mAh 18650 Bench Test Results...great 32A/1500mAh battery, better than ivory HB6

    That means no one should build lower than 0.13 ohms when using this battery for a mech mod. Obviously, other batteries by other manufacturers are going to have a lower cdr, so should have a higher resistance coil build.

    But I agree with Bad Ninja. It wouldn't have mattered in the case of the OP. Putting batteries in upside down is a poor idea.
     
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  20. Ryedan

    Ryedan ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 31, 2012
    Ontario, Canada
    Yup Bad Ninja :thumb:

    It's funny how people twist things to suit their own agendas, or maybe they really just don't know any better.

    That would be kinda sad though specially from the experienced vapers around here.

    Then again, experience and knowledge of the topic do not always correlate.


    Grumpy old man today ... But I feel better now :cool:

    Now ... get off my lawn :grr:


    :)
     
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