Saphire V2 Taken Apart, Changes to V2: Possible Fix for Dry Hits Pics Included

[VapingMattCA]

I have been using 3 of my 8 Saphires. The 1st one I started using started to taste off today. My juice that was in the tank turned brown in color. It was wicking fine so this was kinda strange.

Some changes made in Saphire V2:
1. The wick holder has been made longer
2. 2 gaskets are now used instead of 1 glued to the wick holder
3. The teeth have been raised a bit and some glue is used to hold the tank on so it is a lot harder to remove
4. The wick holder doesn't snap in as deep and it appears some glue is used here ******* ISSUE
5. There is now an o-ring added to just above the battery connector pin
6. A bit more wick is exposed in tank

All these changes were made in like 2 weeks or less!! Chris really must have pushed the factory to improve the Saphire. Thanks Chris for going the extra mile for everyone!!!

This issue that developed with my Saphire was the glue they used to attach the wick holder got into the atty coil. I have see burnt juice before but this doesn't look like it. This has to be glue and this could explain why some people are reporting issues with the Saphires still. The good news is this is easy to fix. The one you see in the pics I am now vaping and it works even better than it did when I 1st started using it.

To fix this issue:

1. Take the tank off the atty part. The 2 rubber gaskets are now glued to the wick holder so they should remain attached.

2. Pry off wick holder from atty. Mine came off super easy. It appears they aren't being pressed as deep now but they are using glue instead which is a bad idea.

3. Remove the factory wicking and toss it.

4. Take the atty part and soak in iso proly alc for 1 hour

5. Remove from alc soak and blow out and let dry

6. Do dry burns until the atty coil and wick look new again

7. Take a piece of CE-2 rev 5 wicking and on one end unravel the wicking so its spread out. The other end is fine the way it is.

8. Take the not unraveled end and insert it from the bottom of the wick holder through the wick holder.

9. Take the raveled end and place it on 1 side of the atty coil and press it down.

10. Now press the wick holder into the atty bottom part

11. Line up the air channel flat edge so that the straight part of the gaskets and press the tank into place.

12. Take a needle and pry out the pin so it extends out. Be careful to re-seat the o-ring if it gets compressed from screwing it on tightly to remove the tank.

13. Fill and vape. I am getting great vapor and it tastes clean after a few hits once re-assembled.

I hope this helps anyone that is having an issue with the Saphire. The important missing step that I didn't do in the cleaning thread for the V1 was to unravel one end of the wick and place right next to atty coil instead of placing it directly on top of it.

 

[VapingMattCA]

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[Ellisd]

Thanks trying it now

 

[VapingMattCA]

Let me know how it works for you.

 

[VirusZ]

I think this is the old version, I got one like this and another one with smaller gasket, this one with fat gasket leaked the moment I filled it.
The one with smaller, worked fine.

 

[VapingMattCA]

The ones with 2 gaskets are the V2s. The V1 only had one gasket. All 8 of mine that I got this week have 2 gaskets. The only time I had any leaks was when I wasn't paying attention filling and some juice got in the air chamber side. I typically blow out the condensation after I fill them because it builds up.

 

[VirusZ]

No, mine just leaked everything out.

I filled it with G-Spot, let it soak and went to watch a series, when I came back all the juice was on my table..

Oh and when I filled it with 100VG juice it leaked much slower but when I vaped the juice went to their tube, on each inhale the juice went up the air tube and then down.

The ones with 2 gaskets are the V2s. The V1 only had one gasket. All 8 of mine that I got this week have 2 gaskets. The only time I had any leaks was when I wasn't paying attention filling and some juice got in the air chamber side. I typically blow out the condensation after I fill them because it builds up.

 

[vi3tl2ice]

oh heeey. i have the version 2! the wicks werent wicking fast enough for 100% vg so i tried this. except i dont have any ce2 rev 5, so i just took some rev 4 wick and folded it to make it thick enough to fill the hole in the wick holder. now it's wicking just fine!

 

[VapingMattCA]

I have tried all of my Saphires now. A couple of them had really tight draws. I took those 2 apart and found the glue the factory used ozed into the air channel part of the tank restricting air flow.

Another 2 flooded into the air channel after a few hits. I took those 2 apart and the wick wasn't as thick and installed directly centered over the coil. The thickness of the wick and how it is installed over the coil is very important.

The ideal solution would be some sort of flapper valve that opens when a hit is taken allowing juice to flow to the coil eliminating the use of wicking to supply juice from the tank to the atty coil.

I do think the Saphires do need a bit of work to get them as close to perfect as possible. When the Saphire works, it works very well! It is my favorite tank carto of all of them so far.

 

[badkolo]

they are working on them and each batch is being improved, then we will see what needs to be done as we go along
we are progressing greatly to mee t a medium ground where eveyryone will be happy.


And not to worry, either they work or they might have that issue where the draw gets tights causing a dry burn, we will take care of that for each individual case if thats occurs so there is no need to worry, they are a excellent product and we stand behind it, that simple. this isnt about if it isnt giving as much vapor as on 5volts, or the flavor doesnt match this boge carto, or i like my draw this way or that, we arent talking about individual likes, we are talking about if the sapphire oyu by has this specific issue we will stand behind it so you can buy in confidence and this will eventually be gone as the proper fixes will all line up for the real world situations to match everyones juice and use as much as we and they can.

Products made in china are tested with chinese ejuice, they do not test it with a hundreds of different juices and concoctions that are available now in the usa and through out the world, we all know that different juice behave differently in different atomizers and cartomizers and clearomizer, thats a fact not a opinion , we all know certain brown juices react differently in many carto/atty/tanks. So while its easy to use one and be like, why isnt it working with my particular juice etc is a real hard and complicated thing, each system is different form the rest , thats what we are trying to do with the sapphire, to make it as universal as possible and we can only know that by making minor changes and testing it knowing it will work well then get some feedback form everyone on how it responds for them and then proceed form there, we are getting there.

 

[teslastick]

Sheesh...thought this was to be the no hassle carto..... Seems a lot more hassle with all these steps to get them working right.

I got my firs t 2 when they first came out and haven't been able to get any since. Guess I'll have to take them apart now and clean or something? When will new ones come back?

Thanks for the instructions. I. Sure will seem easier once I get working on them.

 

[badkolo]

there might be a few with that hassle and we will replace it, thats imple, there shouldnt be any hassle, fill and vape, if it doesnt meet what a all around carto should be vape wise isnt what im taling about, like i said if it has a major issue we will handle it, and are working to making sure all perform perfectly. We cant determing how your juice will work in them or your vaping habbits, but the carto should vape and shouldnt start to get a tight draw after a few minutes and then followed by a burn taste, if that happens contact us. if it does then you can mod it if you like to get it to perform the way you like it.

 

[VapingMattCA]

Chris/Daniel I know you stand behind your products and offer great customer service along with trying to have time to improve products and bring out new ones. I love ths Saphire! It truely is my current favorite. I checked Buddy's site and it appears they just released them in June and you had them do even more changes than I listed as I took 1 of my Saphires completely apart since making my 1st post and that is very impressive. Hopefully with some more fixes these will be nearly perfect out of the box.

I did some experimenting tonight and I have discovered that that silica wicking string works better than the braided CE-2 fat wicks and it appears that the factory is using something similar to it. IF the wick is too fat not enough juice will get to the coil. If the wick is too thin it will flood. Of course the correct air flow is also important. I have had to mod 4/8 Saphires I ordered which is ok since I like the challenage of getting something to work well but I certainly look forward to when the Saphires are consistenly good out of the box and I would be happy to assist in this process as I do see the Saphire to be one of the best tank cartos available.

 

[iuseaspork]

Mine were terrible out of the box. After this on 1 of them.... Great!

Thanks! Similar amount of startup hassle to the fluxos that I love so much, but easier filling.

 

[robl45]

the only wick that worked for me decently without leaking and without dry hits is the factory wick. however, whenever I clean them, they never work again, so I'm resisting it. once cleaned its just dry hit city forever. I can blow into it till I eventually flood thing thing, that will give a decent hit or two until I'm getting dry hits.