Sapphire impressions

[robl45]

Had these since last night, used them last night and all day today. honestly, I gotta say, I don't know what all the excitement is about. Yes they will vape my thick liquid that the CE2's wouldnt work on, but other than that, I'm not really impressed. Number 1, these things are burning up my batteries, maybe I vape too much, maybe I'm doing it wrong, but my batteries are heating up like crazy at the top. I believe its because the coil is at the bottom and all the heat is transferring down. I'm sure my riva's aren't going to take much more of this. if I vape for 15 minutes, the top is so hot, its not comfortable to hold. No way these are going to survive through my weekend 6 hour movie nights.

And those little rubber things on the top, no spares? I almost lost one this morning.

The vape is decent, but with the clearomizer, I don't burn up my battery, I can pull the tube, wash the thing in water, and 60 seconds later be back to vaping. granted the tubes keep cracking, but if the tubes were made out of the material the saphires are made out of, there would be no issue.

And the one that came apart on me, I washed the tube in water, I blew it out, dried it out, dry burned the ran the bottom piece for a bit and smoked it up and its better now, but still pulling kinda hard.

 

[badkolo]

just like any other atomizer, they get hot, but the sapphire doesnt get anywhere as hot as a ce2 or regular atomizer, so again not sure what you mean.

the rubber fill tip is hidden under the mout peace, saying that its issue is like saying your going to lose the mouth peace as well on any carto, why would the hidden filler plug that is only touched when your going to fill a issue, not with just you but everyone, are people losing the white mouth peaces on ce2 after they fill them, i dont think, so why would this be any different, its a plastic fill plug, you see it and remove it and keep an eye out where it is so you can replace it, we will sell those seperatly along with the filling condoms, for now I suggest when you remove the fill plug to place it on something or in your hand until your done filling, after that its protected again under the mouth peace, think of it as a inner plug on a ce2, no one is loosing those so treat this in the same manner.

some people will naturaly prefer the ce2, while some prefer the sapphire, i her eit all day so i know first hand. that is why we sell both and will continue to improve both. yes new ce2 will fix the issue but that doesnt change the fact that some people still rather vape on something else and thats why options solve that.
i can wash the sapphire in and mod it like everyone else in under 1 minute flat and having working again, i cant do that to a ce2 as fast, so i guess thats a matter of preference, to many the ce2 is great but you need to play with it to make it perfect, thats a known thing but i still love them to to death, with sapphire you fill and vape.

Other then that i will make videos to help others with cleaning later on today when im a bit more free.

 

[VapingMattCA]

Chris if you had the factory make the fill plug and filing condom thing a different color it would make it easier to find them if they accidently get dropped on the floor. What I do is keep one of the filling condom things at home and carry the other one with me which I put back in the box the Saphires came in so I don't loose it. I agree with you the Saphire is great but I would only recommend using it at 3.7-4.2 V to keep the wick from getting too dry and whatever juice is on it from burning. If used at those voltages the factory wick shouldn't have to be replaced for a long time so that would make doing the dry burn by just prying the metal wick holder piece off the atty body without having to touch or change the factory wick and its installation in the wick holder. Upon putting the metal wick holder back on the atty part the wicking that makes contact with the atty coil needs to be spread out over the coil as evenly as possible or it will cause the draw to become tight.

I will make a video on cleaning and re-building the Saphires this weekend once I get more Saphires and some of your magic glue.

 

[badkolo]

yes the same way a 2.4 ce2 isnt meant for higher volts either so why would the sapphire be any different, people need to use the sapphire as intended and report back on that, not take it to where it shouldnt go then say its broken when it comes to volts and ohmage, there will be a 3.0 ohm version for those folks that specificaly need to vape at higher volts.

they built the 2.2 to 2.4 sapphire to respond well at 3.2 to 4.2, now some of them can go higher but that isnt what the factory suggests so the higher ohm version will come to fill that need for those people.

 

[robl45]

EDIT: just to be clear, I"m using these on RIVA 3.7 volt batteries.

I don't know, I just grabbed an old 3.2volt regulated riva battery, been puffing for a few minutes, and the top of the battery where the button is housed is uncomfortably hot already. the only thing I can think of is that the coil is at the bottom and all the heat is radiating down. no way other people aren't having this issue unless I'm doing something wrong with the thing.

as for the inside rubber piece. its rubber, its tiny and it bounces. And i've lost the top pieces to the CE2, more than 5 at least, but there are 5 in a pack, so at least you can grab one from another one, and they also quite a bit bigger. These things are tiny, they drop, they bounce, they are clear, etc. I'm looking for it on a marble floor, if it was carpet, forget it. throwing an extra one in each pack would be helpful.

just like any other atomizer, they get hot, but the sapphire doesnt get anywhere as hot as a ce2 or regular atomizer, so again not sure what you mean.

the rubber fill tip is hidden under the mout peace, saying that its issue is like saying your going to lose the mouth peace as well on any carto, why would the hidden filler plug that is only touched when your going to fill a issue, not with just you but everyone, are people losing the white mouth peaces on ce2 after they fill them, i dont think, so why would this be any different, its a plastic fill plug, you see it and remove it and keep an eye out where it is so you can replace it, we will sell those seperatly but my car keys arent part of my car and that hasnt been lost in 20 years.

some people will naturaly prefer the ce2, while some prefer the sapphire, i her eit all day so i know first hand. that is why we sell both and will continue to improve both. yes new ce2 will fix the issue but that doesnt change the fact that some people still rather vape on something else and thats why options solve that.
i can wash the sapphire in and mod it like everyone else in under 1 minute flat and having working again, i cant do that to a ce2 as fast, so i guess thats a matter of preference, to many the ce2 is great but you need to play with it to make it perfect, thats a known thing but i still love them to to death, with sapphire you fill and vape.

Other then that i will make videos to help others with cleaning later on today when im a bit more free.

 

[badkolo]

thats the thing rob I seriously havent had that happen even up 4.2 but we will figure it out, i can vape on this for minutes at a time and its cooler then any regualr atomizer i have used, the only thing i can think of is your not getting proper airflow, but i think the riva has 4 slots like a real 510 connector.

gotcha rob, no prob, the extra filler plugs and condoms will arrive soon to help alleviate that.

im going to make a video rob using different devices and see if we can solve your issue togehter, just give me some time as im backed up and have a few things to catch up on, then ill make some videos and get into certain aspects of the sapphire.

 

[badkolo]

guys , please dont take any of my comments during these hours as being prickish or rude in anyway when i dont get into detail with peoples issues, its that im so busy yet i still want to reply so i reply quickly sometimes and it might come off as rude because im not fully getting into you issues. so please understand i love you all and want to help all of you and when i become more free towards the night time i can expand my answers more.

 

[harmonic]

yea i almost lost my fill plug cuz the cat jumped in my lap - once they get away they are a PITA to find again lol
and i have noticed my batt getting warm but i got it on a little auto stick batt and back to back it almost constant. after 1/2 an hour if i dont switch up now and again the connector end of the batt gets very warm. its been a while since i had a solid cart on an auto batt and not worried about flooding the sensor... not been a problem on my epower and only noticed a little warm on ego...

 

[capnbang]

I havent had any heat probs and I'm vapen like a freight train.Yo Bad you gonna get those saphires up today or what man?

 

[badkolo]

rob do me a favor if you can and if you have a dremel, screw on your sapphire and follow whre hole lands on your connector, then shave a little slit into your battery conntector so when you screw the saphhire on the battery you would be able to see the hole on the sapphire connector on the slit you made on your battery and try that, if you damage your battery ill replace it. Let me know if that fixed your issue, it could be the placement on of the hole on the sapphire causing your issue and i will le them know at the factory to keep an eye out for that.

 

[haft2doit]

These get hot if you vape back to back for a while, but that it what happens with anything. Ce2's because the coil is up top and insulated from the tube by the silicone plug, heat up the juice in the tube rather than the tube or connector. They still get hot but it takes longer because there is a lot of liquid to heat. Any atty or carto where the coil is in a metal sleeve will heat up quicker. There is nothing strange about the heat buildup. I think maybe ce2's are more suited to your style of vaping. As for the plugs they are small and can be lost. I just make sure I'm careful and there is no problem. They can't be lost unless filling, and when filling it's easy to keep track of them. I think these are nitpicky issues

 

[harmonic]

heh I dont care if it gets hot - was just sayin lol all my stuff gets hot

 

[badkolo]

i guess thats the plus of the ce2 clearo, it doesnt get as hot as a metal one which can burn if you back to back vape and at 2.4ohm

 

[robl45]

I washed and cleaned one of the sapphires and filled with the little bit of atomic cinnecide I have left. So we will see
If its just this thick juice causing too much heat.

 

[opsguy]

I would like to add some info if it might help Rob.
I also have seen the same thing he is talking about with it getting really hot to the point I cannot hardly touch the top portion of my battery. This happened with my first Sapphire. And I found out it was because it was not getting enough air flow. The draw had become tight and although it was producing vapor it was not allowing enough juice through the wick and the atty was becoming much hotter than normal. I had used several juices but they were not thick but they were dark juices.

I washed it out but did not take it apart. Just rinsed it out thoroughly and it worked better and did not get as hot. But that only lasted a short while then it started leaking out the bottom of the battery connector. I think when I rinsed it out I dislodged the wick which caused it to leak.

I'm using the second Sapphire now and it is working much better than the first one.

 

[robl45]

Its better with the AC. Now its warm, not smoking hot. Its just like above poster said, this dark juice. I've thinned it by half with 80/20 pg/vg to cut down the 100% vg. Still not working. Any hope or do i just throw 46 bucks down the drain?

 

[robl45]

Now its leaking through the battery connector

 

[opsguy]

robl45 I know how you feel. So far my second one is not leaking but it has only been one day.

I am trying to be patient and holding out hopes that they will get better. I never had these leak problems with my eGo-T's but they were not perfect either. They would work great for about a week and then stop wicking properly.

I heard that some people where changing the wick material and it helped. I would like to know what wick to use and maybe I could fix my first one. Maybe someone will do a video on changing the wick.

I still have two more packs of these so I am still holding out hoping they will improve.

 

[robl45]

I washed it out but did not take it apart. Just rinsed it out thoroughly and it worked better and did not get as hot. But that only lasted a short while then it started leaking out the bottom of the battery connector. I think when I rinsed it out I dislodged the wick which caused it to leak.

I'm using the second Sapphire now and it is working much better than the first one.

i don't see how popping the tube off and washing it could mess up the wick, but maybe thats what we did, i did touch the wick a little bit. so i'm guessing its just hollow below and if the juice doesn't burn off, it just falls through the bottom?

 

[BanjoMan]

From messing with them a few days I've come to believe that if the wick doesn't fill enough of the hole it won't keep juice from flowing through and flooding the atty (which can make it leak out the battery connection). It's easy to disturb the wick even if you're careful. Once that happens all you can really do is pull it apart and try to refit/replace the wick and start over.