Actually they will be the same size, I am making that correction in the schematic. And I will probably move the scews in just a little so there is less lead wire from the SS to the elect posts.
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Actually they will be the same size, I am making that correction in the schematic. And I will probably move the scews in just a little so there is less lead wire from the SS to the elect posts.
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Dan I see people asking to be added to the list, I have not seen you mention any wait list. I was on a so called list for the Mark -T so my question is have you started a wait list for The G-tank US ? If no could you let people know how this will work once you have it ready. And if there is a list please add my name for 2.
No official list (Yet), I will run this co-op like the last one. I will open a thread in the classified (linked here) and run it this time for 1 week, at the end of 1 week I will post the list and quantities everyone has asked for. Then I will do a payment call, once the money hits the bank I will order all the pieces. Once recieved I will package them along with the few parts needed to complete the build and send them out. The only items required for the "Build" is a 6-32 polycarbonate screws pre drilled by me, (2) nylon spacers, (2) 0-80 screws and (1) SS spacer (all included). The only other thing you will need is some SS mesh, Kanthal, and 510 drip tip.
I would love to preassemble all of these but if it "pops" like I think it will I will not be able to handle the volume. I may request a $10.00 donation for assembly for those void of modding skills and just want it ready to put SS mesh and kanthal in. What do yall think, that fair?
Hope this helps,
Dan
That sounds more than fair Dan. You may want to cap off the amount you'll assemble in case it's overwhelming.
Dan, something I thought of is that if you want to pay your daughter to pack this like last time, you should build in some cost for it. That way you have less hassle, she gets money which I'm sure she wants, and you don't pay for that out of pocket.
You must put a charge in for pre-drilling the screws. This is an added manufacturing step and should not be included in the Non-Profit part of the deal in my opinion. You should at least get a couple of dollars for every screw you have to drill and thread.
I now know how time consuming and effort intense a co-op can be now. Especially when you consider splitting and packaging extra parts.
I now know how time consuming and effort intense a co-op can be now. Especially when you consider splitting and packaging extra parts.
I will pay whatever to get one preassemble, Thanks Dan for clearing that all up for me. I'm looking forward to this co-op.
$10 is more than fair. I will gladly pay that. I wished you would have offered that for ScubagenV3
.I would hope that your adding some money for the R&D time you put into these Dan. That still constitutes NFP standards and you have put a lot of time into all of your work. I'm pretty confident that most people that want in on this co-op would feel the same.
Sounds good to me! Doesn't sound like it will be hard at all to get these up and running!
We can always chip in a little extra for Dans efforts....just food for thought.
We can always chip in a little extra for Dans efforts....just food for thought.
For the record... not for profit means not for PROFIT...
Profit means markup after the cost of materials, machining time, tool costs, R&D, and labor to produce!
This is not an opinion...
The true cost to produce these will be:
Cost of R&D
Cost of Materials
Cost of Machining
Cost of Labor to assemble, package, ship, etc.
Cost of shipping
Anything ABOVE these costs is profit.
Dan SHOULD be compensated fairly for his time... he's not the atty fairy... (not that there's anything wrong with that) and he's done a TON of R&D to make this happen, which he should also be compensated for, and we will ALL gladly pay.
Total up the cost to produce these things, including R&D and labor every step of the way, and divide it by the number of units produced. That is the cost before profit. Time is money, and I feel kind of funny about the fact that Dan has been not compensated for his time.
Being paid for his time is not making a profit... it's compensation and a cost of production.
Profit means markup after the cost of materials, machining time, tool costs, R&D, and labor to produce!
This is not an opinion...
The true cost to produce these will be:
Cost of R&D
Cost of Materials
Cost of Machining
Cost of Labor to assemble, package, ship, etc.
Cost of shipping
Anything ABOVE these costs is profit.
Dan SHOULD be compensated fairly for his time... he's not the atty fairy... (not that there's anything wrong with that) and he's done a TON of R&D to make this happen, which he should also be compensated for, and we will ALL gladly pay.
Total up the cost to produce these things, including R&D and labor every step of the way, and divide it by the number of units produced. That is the cost before profit. Time is money, and I feel kind of funny about the fact that Dan has been not compensated for his time.
Being paid for his time is not making a profit... it's compensation and a cost of production.
Well whattaya know... Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine it could be true... go figure!
Ummm... ya know what, Dan? You need to make that into your avatar.
Be careful what you say as far as (R&D...Labor...Handling) costs and listing them just as any other business would... The IRS looks at such things as cost versus sales price in businesses and would require reporting such an endeavor at year end. You are listing things that businesses use on a earnings statement to justify profit/loss from a production/retail/wholesale perspective.
The best way to treat this is not to suggest to Dan to include all his potential costs in a final sales price of these units but to gift what you think he has deserved in all his efforts. I am sure there are many that will do so... I will surely be one of those that does... Cost for contracting the machinist and shipping, is clear. The others are quite ambiguous and could be questioned in the unlikely event of any IRS audit. It does happen folks.
My suggestion is to let the generosity of the ECF folks take care of Dan in the way of gifting.
JMHO
The best way to treat this is not to suggest to Dan to include all his potential costs in a final sales price of these units but to gift what you think he has deserved in all his efforts. I am sure there are many that will do so... I will surely be one of those that does... Cost for contracting the machinist and shipping, is clear. The others are quite ambiguous and could be questioned in the unlikely event of any IRS audit. It does happen folks.
My suggestion is to let the generosity of the ECF folks take care of Dan in the way of gifting.
JMHO
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