Serious warning! Deadly juice!

[Doomed!]

Yea... that's so easy (and very childish IMHO) - "not my fault, not my fault"... are you sure?

Yes. I'm sure. I don't have kids. If I call it juice, it doesn't effect anybody else's kids. If you have kids, and you call it juice and are careless enough to leave it in a place where the child can get to it, it's your fault. I wasn't involved. Hence, not my fault.

[QUOTE/]How about using proper word for something that definitely is NOT a juice? Wouldn't that be easier? Wiser? Simpler?[/QUOTE]

It's slang. Lots of things are called juice that aren't fruit juice: electricity, alcohol, steroids, a 1990's Tupac Shakur film. You see? It's just a word. How about instead of calling fruit juice, juice, we call it fruit purée based beverage. That will solve the problem, right? Can't you see how ridiculous this argument is?

[QUOTE/]Did he call it a gun or rather toy? You really don't see the difference between those words[/QUOTE]

I, like a lot of American boys, played with toy guns when I was a kid. When I was very young, I wouldn't have know the difference between the toy gun and the real gun. That's why I got the talk. He called the real guns, guns. I called my toy guns, guns. It's a general noun that can apply to anything gun shaped.

[QUOTE/]Why some people insist on using a stupid and misleading word? Too lazy to change your vocabulary perhaps?
I wouldn't be surprised when FDA points to that word and say: hey - they suggest that this is for children. They use this word on purpose. An then you will have a real problem. You - meaning people living in US. Not me, living in Europe and not using misleading nomenclature.
Then I will tell you - hey... remember my thread?
Read MagnusEuson's post above - it's really worth reading.
So again and again I ask - does it make sense to use this stupid word?[/QUOTE]

Man, the FDA has you scared. It makes no difference what you call it, the FDA is going to come after e-cigs until they are stopped. Tell me, do you think there should be a limit on the flavors we are allowed to purchase? The FDA says that juice should come in tobacco or unflavored only. They claim that all the other flavors are only there to appeal to children. I think I should be able to vape whatever I want and call it whatever I want.

If you want to call it something else, go for it. If you want to huddle in the corner and cower because of the FDA boogie man, be my guest. I don't. I call it juice because I want to. Just remember this: when they control your language, they control your mind. Read 1984 if you want a great story about just that. And hey, if you are right and the FDA shuts us down because we called it juice, I'll buy you a coke.

 

[Starspecks]

It's so dumb with the whole, "chocolate flavored? That's marketed for CHILDREN!" Bs, what adult doesn't like chocolate? Weird ones, that's who.....

Sent from my Evo

 

[Old Chemist]

Man, the FDA has you scared.

Wrong! I am in Europe and FDA is American problem, not mine, fortunately.
Read my OP - it's about children, FDA is only mentioned additionally.

Tell me, do you think there should be a limit on the flavors we are allowed to purchase? The FDA says that juice should come in tobacco or unflavored only.

As I said - not my problem. We have freedom of choice. You have to fight with FDA. A year ago we were fighting with our parliament - they tried to ban e-cigs. We won.

Just remember this: when they control your language, they control your mind. Read 1984 if you want a great story about just that.

Sigh... man, I know it much better than you, believe me. And again - read my OP.
Of course you may call it whatever you want. I just told my story.

 

[Doomed!]

Wrong! I am in Europe and FDA is American problem, not mine, fortunately.
Read my OP - it's about children, FDA is only mentioned additionally.


As I said - not my problem. We have freedom of choice. You have to fight with FDA. A year ago we were fighting with our parliament - they tried to ban e-cigs. We won.


Sigh... man, I know it much better than you, believe me. And again - read my OP.
Of course you may call it whatever you want. I just told my story.

If the FDA isn't your problem then why bring it up? If your concern is children, EDUCATE THEM AND LOCK UP YOUR JUICE. Take responsibility for your own children and leave me out of it! I'm tired of this "save the children" nonsense. They're your kids, so take care of them.

 

[Old Chemist]

If the FDA isn't your problem then why bring it up? If your concern is children, EDUCATE THEM AND LOCK UP YOUR JUICE. Take responsibility for your own children and leave me out of it! I'm tired of this "save the children" nonsense. They're your kids, so take care of them.

Hey... you came to MY thread - I didn't force you to read, write etc. So I don't really understand your whining "leave me out"... You repeat almost the same sentences - it's boring, very boring.
Are you glued to this thread? Take your stuff and leave, you poor tired man. Or even better - go and sue me for making you feel tired.
But first of all - GO. Happy journey. Hasta la vista.

BTW: my kid is already 26 and she already takes care of herself.

 

[Doomed!]

Hey... you came to MY thread - I didn't force you to read, write etc. So I don't really understand your whining "leave me out"... You repeat almost the same sentences - it's boring, very boring.
Are you glued to this thread? Take your stuff and leave, you poor tired man. Or even better - go and sue me for making you feel tired.
But first of all - GO. Happy journey. Hasta la vista.

BTW: my kid is already 26 and she already takes care of herself.

You always this hostile to people who disagree with you? Or was it that I just make a better point? But hey, congratulations for successfully raising a kid to adulthood. Somehow, your offspring managed to reach adulthood without being killed by all of the dangers that exist in the world. I assume that was because you taught her about those dangers so she would avoid them. Apply that same concept to juice and nothing bad will happen to the children. I promise.

And P.S., you put your thread on the INTERNET. Other people are going to comment on it. If you're worried about this, just mumble softly to yourself in the corner about the dangers of words.

 

[Old Chemist]

You always this hostile to people who disagree with you?

Hostile? Oh, you haven't seen me being hostile yet. Believe me, then you'd be really doomed.
But seriously - could you show me any hostile remark to anyone?

And P.S., you put your thread on the INTERNET. Other people are going to comment on it. If you're worried about this, just mumble softly to yourself in the corner about the dangers of words.

Just look at the whole thread, count "likes" and read what ppl wrote here. And in fact it's only you who are being a bit aggresive and whining at the same time. As I said, no need to read the thread further.
Happy juicing!

 

[Doomed!]

Haha. Ok, buddy.

 

[LynGBH]

My daughter became interested in my PV and e-liquid because I was discussing it with my husband and talking about how yummy some of the flavors were...not to mention the fascination with the PV itself. I quit talking about it in front of her and now refer to my PVs as "Nasty Sticks". I don't use it around her and try to make sure she doesn't see me use it when I'm outdoors.

 

[Koman]

Thank you for warning the others. This really does seem serious.

 

[OctobersRust81]

it doesnt matter what you call it, kids try to emulate adults. it is the responsibility of the parents and only the parents to keep poisons out of reach of their children and decide what bad habits they are exposing them to, whether it be vaping, smoking, drinking, popping pills, watching too much tv, pigging out on junk food all day, etc. Whether you call it juice or liquid or toejam .... crust death sauce, what do your kids think when they see you sucking on it. i dont have any kids, but if i did, i wouldnt leave any "toxic juice" laying around where they could get ahold of it, no matter what it was called

 

[Coil]

Great topic. It should be mandatory to have child safety lids on On E-Liquids. I myself call it juice and can see how to a child's ear that instantly rings a bell! Scary stuff.

With my 1st son on the way you'd better believe I'll be placing anything Ecig related in a place he can't reach. It would be easy to say that parents/ guardians should be more responsible and just keep it away from their children plain and simple... Unfortunately no one's perfect and it's an easy accident waiting to happen. Thumbs up to going Child safety on E-liquids for sure.

A bigger thumbs up for training the adults to not be dummies and leave the stuff laying around the house!

 

[Nova Sphere]

OK, friends, but - try not to discuss the ways of protecting our children and pets. My main point is - terminology. The word "juice", to be exact. 4-5 to kid doesn't distinguish between nic juice and eg apple juice. They even may look the same.

O.K., I'm on board! I'll call it "fuel"

 

[Nova Sphere]

Right - you can call it whatever you want. You may pretend even to be a hippe. You are NOT a hippie, you just pretend you are.
Well, I may call someone an idiot if I feel like it. I am sure you don't mind.

A rose by any other name..........Keep on Truckin' HippyBrian

 

[Old Chemist]

A rose by any other name..........Keep on Truckin' HippyBrian

Right... a rose... but what if you call poison ivy by the name of a rose?

 

[Hiryu]

I certainly do not appreciate the alarmist, sensationalist and doomsaying title of this thread.

If anything, I think it does more to scare away potential new vapers and hurt the image of vaping as a whole than a silly non-issue like calling a mixture of PG, VG, nicotine in varying degrees and artificial flavoring "juice" or "liquid" in a valiant crusade to protect children from their parent's over remissness.

I could write several more pages on the subject, but I will just live you with the words of a wiser man than I.

WARNING: Truthful but very, very coarse language ahead.

 

[hippiebrian]

Right... a rose... but what if you call poison ivy by the name of a rose?

It would still itch if you were sensitive to it. What exactly is your point there?

 

[proudlion]

Great point Old Chemist - I read your original post some while ago and now I have developed an aversion to vendors who refer to their e-liquids as "juices" - I'm especially sensitive to those who include the word "juice" in their business name.

Thanks for bringing this up - they no longer make "candy cigarettes" for a good reason.

 

[Doomed!]

They still make candy cigarettes.

 

[proudlion]

They still make candy cigarettes.

Indeed this is true! Thanks for apprising me.