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I was in a similar situation as Eddie - didn't smoke, but decided to take up vaping since I read that it was basically safe compared to smoking cigs---in addition, I was curious about the effects of nic, since it's a cholinergic receptor agonist and can stimulate increases in dopamine and serotonin. Anyways, I was vaping for about 6 months, but had noticed shortness of breath symptoms about a month after starting. The SOB was very noticeable since I workout 4 times per week and used to never get winded like I do now. Anyway, I have been off vaping for about a month now, but I still have symptoms...they are slightly less now. Hopefully over time the SOB will go away and I'll be back 100%
Wow, why did you continue vaping after getting SOB? Have you been to a doctor? I saw a pulmonologist on Friday, and he said my x-ray and spirometry test readings were normal, and it was probably just anxiety. I was hoping that would help me, but I still feel the SOB. Did you use the same brand the whole 6 months, or were you trying different ones? I'm trying to not think/worry about this all the time, but it is hard.
I tried all kinds of juice, switched up to using pg only, vg only, etc. Nothing helped...
Actually, the SOB wasn't noticable until about 3-4 months after I started. I didn't stop vaping because at first I didn't think it was related to it, and I loved vaping...was addicted to the nic too.
Hope your sob gets better soon! Mine seems to be getting better, but it is taking longer than I'd like
Actually, the SOB wasn't noticable until about 3-4 months after I started. I didn't stop vaping because at first I didn't think it was related to it, and I loved vaping...was addicted to the nic too.
Hope your sob gets better soon! Mine seems to be getting better, but it is taking longer than I'd like
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Good luck to you as well! I feel a little better knowing that yours took 3-4 months to develop, not 1, since I only did it a few days. Do you feel it only when exercising, or all the time? I feel like mine is noticeable to some extent all the time. I keep telling myself that only vaping part of just one cartridge over 2 months ago could still not be causing me problems, even if there was something bad in the juice. The pulmonologist also said it would be extremely low chance that it's related. But it's always in the back of my mind, which is not helping. I take it you aren't that worried about it then?
Mine is only noticeable when I exercise. I'm not too worried about it since it seems to be getting better. I have not been to the doctor but will if the symptoms persist longer than a couple more months.
Ya know, I sometimes have SOB and a "full" feeling in my lungs. I don't have any idea if it could be related to the vaping. I keep thinking that putting an oily substance in my lungs will have a negative effect but there just isn't any research that would indicate that. I do know that I am better than when I was smoking 1.5-2 packs of analogs a day and I do know that I am not ready to quit. Vaping has been the only solution I have found that works for me. I even tried Chantix. It made me crazy (literally) and I still take an antidepressant that was started from the side effects of Chantix, although I take it for fibromyalgia as much as anything else now. I am really hoping that vaping is relatively harmless. I know my lungs are much better than they were when I smoked. In lower altitudes I feel awesome. When I get back into the mile high and higher elevations, I have the SOB. Hoping this improves the longer I am away from analogs.
Good luck with your issues. Try to give up the worries. I just don't see how the wee bit you vaped could have a long term effect. Shoot. Think of the fry cooks in the world who inhale oily air all day and have no problems!
Good luck with your issues. Try to give up the worries. I just don't see how the wee bit you vaped could have a long term effect. Shoot. Think of the fry cooks in the world who inhale oily air all day and have no problems!
Thanks, I'm trying not to worry. I figure even if there was a "contaminant" of some kind, it couldn't be worse than what is in a few regular cigarettes, right?? And I only vaped one cartridge total. Heck, people can smoke crack or .... for years until they either quit or it kills them. There has to be worse stuff in those two things I would think! I think I am extra worried because it was one of those ones from China, can't really be 100% sure what they put in there. I still feel the symptoms. I even ended up in urgent care the other day, because I almost passed out and my arms went numb during exercise. Turns out I was just hyperventilating. Too MUCH oxygen! I started breathing faster because I was worried I was short of breath. I guess the mind really is a powerful thing. Trying to work through it.....
OK people, if this guys isnt a troll lets consider a few things and get the facts straight. Eddie says that he vaped 30 puffs in a few days. Who buys a PV and vapes 30 puffs then doesnt use it again? Then thinks it gave him SOB a month later. He blames it on the juice and says that "a lot of these come from China". Makes no mention of what juice or PV he vaped. Did he buy Chinese juice? Went to a doctor and got a chest X ray that looked normal, yet he didnt find out why he has SOB, instead makes a post on a forum. What exactly is his intention? he stated that he doesnt believe for a second that vaping is safer than drinking a cup of coffee... he says this is because you are inhaling a "bunch of chemicals" Really?, and just what are the bunch of chemicals Eddie? You are extra worried because it was "one of those from China" Can you be more specific? This guy is trying so spread some type of misinformation about vaping and is exactly the type who propagate fear mongering about vaping which makes it detrimental to the whole community. how many people has he told that vaping just one ecig destroyed his life and caused permanent damage to his body etc...
I just read that he said he was on inhalers...LOL if this is true, why dont you tell us what in those inahlers buddy..? maybe "a bunch of chemicals" i really hope they are not the ones that are made in China.
I beg your pardon, the eCigs "I" vape don't contain chemicals from China as I make my own nicotine liquids using 'food grade' PG, VG and organic flavoring. The 'inhalation' of harmless 'steam' vapors is about as dangerous as inhaling tea kettle steam, or the steam from a hot shower or sauna.
You're right.... allergies don't work that way.... they're rather 'immediate' so I honestly doubt the symptoms you're describing are from vaping.
Take this advice for what it's worth eddie1053.... vaping isn't for everyone.... and I definitely don't think it's for you.
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I beg your pardon, the eCigs "I" vape don't contain chemicals from China as I make my own nicotine liquids using 'food grade' PG, VG and organic flavoring. The 'inhalation' of harmless 'steam' vapors is about as dangerous as inhaling tea kettle steam, or the steam from a hot shower or sauna.
You're right.... allergies don't work that way.... they're rather 'immediate' so I honestly doubt the symptoms you're describing are from vaping.
Take this advice for what it's worth eddie1053.... vaping isn't for everyone.... and I definitely don't think it's for you.
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I agree, it's definitely not for me, and I have not, nor will I ever do it again. I am not a troll. I genuinely had all this happen to me, and I was just looking for answers. I still feel SOB and/or nausea some times, and I don't know why. I've been to a couple of doctors, done quite a few tests, and they can't find anything "obviously" wrong with me. I'm not trying to give e-cigs a bad name, and I admit that it would be highly unlikely that less than one cartridge sickened me in the first place, and continues to give me problems two months later. I guess if I'm wondering if I'm that "one in a million chance" guy that got some bad juice, and now I will have permanent health problems for the rest of my life. Scary thought. I'm seeing a psychologist currently, and may have to go on anti-anxiety meds at this point. That's how bad it has gotten for me. I just want to feel normal both physically and mentally, and it's not happening as of now. Anyway, thanks to those of you that actually tried to help, and answered my questions. For those of you who didn't, I hope you are nicer to people in real life than you are to people on a message board. I probably won't post again, because constantly reading this board is not helping my anxiety, I am sure. I really hope e-cigs are indeed safe for long term use. Anything to stop you from smoking is a good thing! Good luck to everyone!
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Also, if you intend to help other people on the forum why don't you say what juice you vaped and what vendor you bought it from so we can avoid it if maybe it is contaminated. Also why did you buy "the ones from China" and not a US made juice? Can you post a pic of your PV?
Let me bring one of your previous (less than sensitive and/or appreciative) posts to your attention. This was in response to someone who was very kind and attentive to your concerns, I might add;
ECF, (for the most part), is a very caring and supportive Vaping Community, but reality is if we put it out there we must prepare ourselves to take it.
It doesn't take a Rocket Scientist to determine you suffer from an anxiety disorder. I sincerely hope you find treatment that gives you relief. I assure you, there's tons more dangerous and/or toxic 'chemicals' you are being exposed to on an everyday basis.. (inhaling, eating, absorbing, what-have-you) than the ones you experienced in your brief encounter with eCigs.
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It is very possible that your taking up vaping is coincidental with something else going on.
I really hope you get to the bottom of this. For a huge % of people, vaping is pretty safe, but there are always those with allergies and intolerances, just as there are for food that is injested, pollen/plants that are in the environment, dust in the air, etc.
I think you will get to the bottom of this but try not to panic and just take it one step at a time, in a logical manner, and get your pulmonologiist to check you out further....he may send you to an allergist, etc.
You know it's kind of funny, if you didn't know any better you would think that all those in this thread advising e-cigs aren't the cause are just defending their new habit but I can assure you....that's NOT the case.
I myself went through a very dark period about two years back (during the ages of 35 and 36) this was at the time I quite smoking cigs for good. I had diabolical acid reflux...laugh at the diabolical part? Well, that's what I call it. I had it so bad I ended up getting esophagitis (swelling of the esophagus) - I couldn't even swallow food.
Nobody understands how bad of a condition this is until they go through it. You literally almost want to beg people for help. It's the worst. I was in and out of the emergency room numerous times.
Why am I telling you all of this? Because this damaged me psychologically. During my reflux period, It always felt like a heart attack. Sever stabbing pain in the chest, chest fullness (horrible feeling, picture how your gut feels after a large meal but only in your chest) I still to this day get some (very little) reflux but my mind still tries to play tricks on me. Did I see a doctor for this? Absolutely, he was really, really mean and told me it was all just anxiety, so pciture me trying anxiety calming methods and really dedicating to it while my stomach acid was burning me alive.
Long story short, you too are probably at the point in life where there is some trigger for your anxiety (Oh I also had shortness of breath) and instead of trying to find the trigger which is what most people tell you to do.....If after being checked out throughly by a doctor and if they find nothing wrong....get it through your head that it is just anxiety. Wanna know a secret? You have full control of it as well.
You will learn, it sucks, trust me I know but you will learn how to deal with it and you will feel a million times better. I myself can't stand when people go on meds for it but since I'm not a doctor I can't comment in full. I just think, well, I guess it doesn't matter.
I also want to just drop some more horrible symptoms in regards to acid reflux for this curious or for those who are going through it:
- insane mucus production...chocking so bad on it that you will want to pull over when driving so you can get out of your car to stand up.
- Incredible recovery from taking omeprazole products (i.e. prilosec) but even worse reflux months later from taking too much (ends up having the opposite effect - your stomach NEVER produces too much acid...that is complete bull.......don't listen to it).
- Digusting coughing because of the sphincter in your upper esophagus becoming lazy - basically, too much mucus is being produced to protect you and you are constantly choking on it and it takes forceful, loud coughs to clear it out.
- bleeding from your throat because of coughing too much.
I myself went through a very dark period about two years back (during the ages of 35 and 36) this was at the time I quite smoking cigs for good. I had diabolical acid reflux...laugh at the diabolical part? Well, that's what I call it. I had it so bad I ended up getting esophagitis (swelling of the esophagus) - I couldn't even swallow food.
Nobody understands how bad of a condition this is until they go through it. You literally almost want to beg people for help. It's the worst. I was in and out of the emergency room numerous times.
Why am I telling you all of this? Because this damaged me psychologically. During my reflux period, It always felt like a heart attack. Sever stabbing pain in the chest, chest fullness (horrible feeling, picture how your gut feels after a large meal but only in your chest) I still to this day get some (very little) reflux but my mind still tries to play tricks on me. Did I see a doctor for this? Absolutely, he was really, really mean and told me it was all just anxiety, so pciture me trying anxiety calming methods and really dedicating to it while my stomach acid was burning me alive.
Long story short, you too are probably at the point in life where there is some trigger for your anxiety (Oh I also had shortness of breath) and instead of trying to find the trigger which is what most people tell you to do.....If after being checked out throughly by a doctor and if they find nothing wrong....get it through your head that it is just anxiety. Wanna know a secret? You have full control of it as well.
You will learn, it sucks, trust me I know but you will learn how to deal with it and you will feel a million times better. I myself can't stand when people go on meds for it but since I'm not a doctor I can't comment in full. I just think, well, I guess it doesn't matter.
I also want to just drop some more horrible symptoms in regards to acid reflux for this curious or for those who are going through it:
- insane mucus production...chocking so bad on it that you will want to pull over when driving so you can get out of your car to stand up.
- Incredible recovery from taking omeprazole products (i.e. prilosec) but even worse reflux months later from taking too much (ends up having the opposite effect - your stomach NEVER produces too much acid...that is complete bull.......don't listen to it).
- Digusting coughing because of the sphincter in your upper esophagus becoming lazy - basically, too much mucus is being produced to protect you and you are constantly choking on it and it takes forceful, loud coughs to clear it out.
- bleeding from your throat because of coughing too much.
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Interesting? Are you kidding me bringing up that old chestnut? Typical ANTZ and BT BS again
- cigarettes caused immediate changes in the airways of "healthy smokers"? ...? Compared to what?
It was found out that the "immediate changes" were less volatile than getting a noseful of someone's stinky breath in your face. I'll bet that inhaling LA air has a damn sight more immediate changes in your airways than an e-cigarette.
Ooooh...and the FDA says E-cigs MAY have chemicals in them that MAY be dangerous - Maybe you SHOULD smoke instead. After all, the acetone, ammonia, formaldhyde, arsenic, DDT, et al in a regular cigarette IS all approved and OK'd by the FDA - and THEN they recommend you "stick to the methods that work - like Chantix"??? Are you for freakin' real?
Sorry guys, I know - Don't feed the trolls, but sometimes.....sheesh.
- cigarettes caused immediate changes in the airways of "healthy smokers"? ...? Compared to what?
It was found out that the "immediate changes" were less volatile than getting a noseful of someone's stinky breath in your face. I'll bet that inhaling LA air has a damn sight more immediate changes in your airways than an e-cigarette.
Ooooh...and the FDA says E-cigs MAY have chemicals in them that MAY be dangerous - Maybe you SHOULD smoke instead. After all, the acetone, ammonia, formaldhyde, arsenic, DDT, et al in a regular cigarette IS all approved and OK'd by the FDA - and THEN they recommend you "stick to the methods that work - like Chantix"??? Are you for freakin' real?
Sorry guys, I know - Don't feed the trolls, but sometimes.....sheesh.
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Eddie, the questions are simple. What were the cartridges you vaped, what PV. Where did you get them from. If you can't or won't answer those then I suggest we request the closure of this thread, and that you go see a psychologist. Maybe Chantix will help.
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