Whether we like it or not it will be regulated and most, including myself, will not be happy with the "new" options available. Bank on it.
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should we be stocking up just in case
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Full mech mods .......check
batteries ......... they can't ban those.
RBAs .......check
Kanthal and ss mesh ..... can't ban those.
Flavorings ......... can't ban those because they are used for many other things.
Nic base ......... large order coming on Monday. Glass bottles to store product in freezer which should last for years.
PG/VG ....... can't ban those.
I'm good for about five years on nic base so by then I should be able to ween myself off nic. I'm down to 6mg now. They can't touch me!
It's unfortunate for the people that haven't yet discovered vaping and die in the process.
personally i dont trust government or large business like big tobacco,if they are loosing money because of something new you can believe they will find a way to regulate it and make money off it...just the way it is. personally i enjoy vaping to much to let them stop me so i have stocked up i have a few hundred carto's and attys and bought a few RBA's and a couple gallons of unflavored nic with a ton of flavoring.
i dont think they will try to outright ban vaping i dont think they would be able to, company's would just sell the equipment under another name like "water vaporizer" and sell no nic juice and people could just get there nic from other tobacco products to use in it,so they just want to make money from it instead to make up from the lack of sales of analogs and other smokeless tobacco products.
i think its likely there will be a few months minimum when we will be unable to acquire e-liquid at least here in the states while they figure out how to regulate and tax it and get the juice company's all set up with the new procedures.
i dont think they will try to outright ban vaping i dont think they would be able to, company's would just sell the equipment under another name like "water vaporizer" and sell no nic juice and people could just get there nic from other tobacco products to use in it,so they just want to make money from it instead to make up from the lack of sales of analogs and other smokeless tobacco products.
i think its likely there will be a few months minimum when we will be unable to acquire e-liquid at least here in the states while they figure out how to regulate and tax it and get the juice company's all set up with the new procedures.
Worry about your nasty habit first. plenty of time for politics and petty worry's that get in the way of living our lives well.no jury in the free world would ever agree to condemning lifetime smokers to returning to the stinkers. and our greatest weapon still lies in the court system.this is how we will win in state and federal municipalities. and how we attack the insurance industry to allow the use of nicotine and still classify us as non smokers. i am weaning myself off nicotine myself. and hope to be smoke and nicotine free in the next 2 months. keeping my electronic girlfriend close for the times i feel i want to get back into the trap of tobacco slavery. still your only priority should be yourself. and your health.
I guess my only question is where to buy some concentrated nicotine at the best price.
I don't even want to think about reverting.
I don't even want to think about reverting.
It's difficult now because many suppliers are out of stock. Check any supplier that carries DIY supplies.
Wizard Labs, My Freedom Smokes, RTS, Crystal Clear Vaping, Vaping Zone, etc. These are just a few.
Wizard Labs, My Freedom Smokes, RTS, Crystal Clear Vaping, Vaping Zone, etc. These are just a few.
myfreedomsmokes has nic in stock but they are not shipping til the 19th they are pretty badly backed up with orders for it currently but if you can wait a few days for it to be delivered, there liquid is great and comes in amber glass bottles ready for storage ive been using there juice for the past year and have had no complaints.
well i never heard of ASH so i went to there website....wow. if they replaced ecig with jew they be shunned as a hate group. i didnt think there were ppl out there who are so emotional damaged that they have to go out of their way to find things to hate with self righteous indignation. talk about blowing poison in children faces and making them look like toys to gateway kids into smoking...theres stupid people outside, and i think their staring at us
yea i would classify them as a hate group myself they are very misinformed(probably on purpose thinking it will help there cause) they even call ecigs "illegal" even considering they are and have always been totally legal.
The hysteria has already negatively impacted me as a vaper, stuff I used to be able to order and get in a week I now have to wait 3-4 weeks for....or longer.
Historically, these kinds of frenzies and apocalypses NEVER have a positive effect. NEVER. (Y2K, Mayan Calendar, Germanic flood, 2012 frenzy, Halley's Comet, Planet aligning (jupiter effect), man-made black holes, witch trials, etc. ) Nor does prohibition, which historically created massive revenue streams for organized crime. There are even really stupid people around where I live selling off land to buy guns.
Some people are making enormous amount of money working up fragile human beings into a frenzy and for some it will morph into an obsession.
In previous incarnations, I just watched others building concrete bunkers, etc. and just got on with my life, because the entirety of my future is not dependent on any one thing succeeding or failing. As long as I still have eyes, I can go out and watch a relaxing sunset. With hands and arms intact, take a cooking class.
When you elevate one idea so much that it creates the future, then what you have is a new form of mythology, not a rational method of thinking. People create the future. They create gadgets, workarounds, etc. I'm not a bit worried.
P.S. Make sure you also purchase an electric or propane GENERATOR. Cuz that nic in your freezer, during a power outage, isn't going to stay frozen. And your batts won't charge even on a mechanical mod.
In other words, there is always something MORE to buy--------when you're panicking.
Historically, these kinds of frenzies and apocalypses NEVER have a positive effect. NEVER. (Y2K, Mayan Calendar, Germanic flood, 2012 frenzy, Halley's Comet, Planet aligning (jupiter effect), man-made black holes, witch trials, etc. ) Nor does prohibition, which historically created massive revenue streams for organized crime. There are even really stupid people around where I live selling off land to buy guns.
Some people are making enormous amount of money working up fragile human beings into a frenzy and for some it will morph into an obsession.
In previous incarnations, I just watched others building concrete bunkers, etc. and just got on with my life, because the entirety of my future is not dependent on any one thing succeeding or failing. As long as I still have eyes, I can go out and watch a relaxing sunset. With hands and arms intact, take a cooking class.
When you elevate one idea so much that it creates the future, then what you have is a new form of mythology, not a rational method of thinking. People create the future. They create gadgets, workarounds, etc. I'm not a bit worried.
P.S. Make sure you also purchase an electric or propane GENERATOR. Cuz that nic in your freezer, during a power outage, isn't going to stay frozen. And your batts won't charge even on a mechanical mod.
In other words, there is always something MORE to buy--------when you're panicking.
I'm pretty well stocked at the moment, got into RBA's and have 50 years worth of mesh and kanthal. Not too worried though.
I can't really see them regulating anything other than nic juice, as that's the only thing that contains nicotine.
I can't really see them regulating anything other than nic juice, as that's the only thing that contains nicotine.
Hard to say over here. So many thing happening all at once in the "former land of the free"...
Regardless, prices are still low now. They won't be as soon as the FDA comes out with their say.
Since I refuse to go back to smoking (36 years, last 4 smoking 2 packs a day of Swisher Sweet little cigars like cigarettes..), nor do I intend to let the wife go back, I'm prepared. It's not like I've wasted my money, everything I have learned and bought will last me years. And what I have bought cost me less than a quarter of a years worth of cigarettes for both of us. It will be used, and enjoyed, no matter what new rules and regs are put in front of us.
Regardless, prices are still low now. They won't be as soon as the FDA comes out with their say.
Since I refuse to go back to smoking (36 years, last 4 smoking 2 packs a day of Swisher Sweet little cigars like cigarettes..), nor do I intend to let the wife go back, I'm prepared. It's not like I've wasted my money, everything I have learned and bought will last me years. And what I have bought cost me less than a quarter of a years worth of cigarettes for both of us. It will be used, and enjoyed, no matter what new rules and regs are put in front of us.
got that covered too....the liquids will last about two years without freezing and the battery's are easily charged with solar energy
if i knew someone with a concrete bunker i would probably be budding up with him/her
i run a concrete truck when the company gets busy and have poured several bunkers. the last one i was at the owner was trying to talk me n2 getting one...told him i didnt need one cause i knew where he lived now. he didnt think it was funny but i had a good laugh
In this day and age the TSA is groping babies and old people's diapers, the states are trying to ban what size drink you can buy or if you can protect yourself with a gun.. Taxes are climbing jobs are being lost. Yeah I'm worried what will be next.
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