I really want one of those so I dont have to keep buying carts but they are expensive and hard to find!
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Should we go back to carto tanks?
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I never met a carto I didn't hate - in or out of a tank - until I put one on a bottom feeder.
Simple: Something like a Reo is designed - on purpose - to catch any excess flooding out the bottom of a carto. And no matter how hard I tried or how carefully I filled them - in a tank or not - sooner or later (usually sooner) they leaked.
If they are dry enough to not leak they are always on the edge of not being wet enough - and burning the filler.
Stick one on a bottom feeder with a good drip well: Flood one? Who cares! It feeds right back into the bottom feeder. Keep 'em as wet as you want without having to remove the thing, avoid the vent tube, spin em around in circles or stare mournfully at it for five minutes praying for something to soak in somewhere and everywhere.
Carto tanks were an idea to try and fix a lot of those problems. But a carto is still a carto and a tank still doesn't give you the control over a carto that a bottom feeder does. You do a lot of praying over a carto tank. Pray the holes or slots in the carto are just the right size for your liquid viscosity. Pray the carto doesn't crap out when the tank is nearly full. Pray you didn't just damage an o-ring when you put that new carto in.
My carto and carto tank experiments almost drove me back to smoking. Not kidding. If only my Reo had met up with my cartos three years in the past. But now I'm not going back to something that never got off the ground to begin with.
You is verified. Both the Sophia and Killer show up on occasion in the classifieds.
For the record: rebuildable atty, not rebuildable carto. They can be used in a tank, but they can also be used as a dripper.
Ah yes, da good ol' ECF syringe/joose bottle tank development adventure days!
Did somebody say joose bottle mod???
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...zer-technical-discussion-196.html#post1992661
Actually, we still have a typewriter, and my husband uses it occasionally -- but it's a nice Selectric; we threw out the old manual when we moved, the keys were jammed and that thing weighed a TON. And I may still have some 5.25" floppies around here in a drawer somewhere...
The problem is, no way to read them! 
But I agree with you; most of those things are obsolete because we have other better things now. There is nothing obsolete about technology that *STILL WORKS JUST FINE*... like cartos and cartotanks.
Andria
I could go thru 3 or 4 packs of cartos without a single dud....I really liked the Boge SR shorties and the local BM always had them double punched....The problem I ran into repeatedly was at 2am the one in my last loaded tank would stove up and the last one in the last box would ohm out open or burn.
Other then that it was almost the best of all the vapes I've been able to set up.
Since buying the Kayfun though I'm NEVER going back to buying coils. It takes 30 mins to set this tank up from scratch, 5 mins to rewick it and the flavor/vape coming out of it is as good or bad as my build.
NOPE, DONE with chinese mass production atomizers.....From now on I build my own thankyou very much!!!
I could go thru 3 or 4 packs of cartos without a single dud....I really liked the Boge SR shorties and the local BM always had them double punched....The problem I ran into repeatedly was at 2am the one in my last loaded tank would stove up and the last one in the last box would ohm out open or burn.
Other then that it was almost the best of all the vapes I've been able to set up.
Since buying the Kayfun though I'm NEVER going back to buying coils. It takes 30 mins to set this tank up from scratch, 5 mins to rewick it and the flavor/vape coming out of it is as good or bad as my build.
NOPE, DONE with chinese mass production atomizers.....From now on I build my own thankyou very much!!!
I'm curious if you've tried a setup with BVC coils? You might be mightily surprised if you haven't.
I could go thru 3 or 4 packs of cartos without a single dud....I really liked the Boge SR shorties and the local BM always had them double punched....The problem I ran into repeatedly was at 2am the one in my last loaded tank would stove up and the last one in the last box would ohm out open or burn.
Other then that it was almost the best of all the vapes I've been able to set up.
Since buying the Kayfun though I'm NEVER going back to buying coils. It takes 30 mins to set this tank up from scratch, 5 mins to rewick it and the flavor/vape coming out of it is as good or bad as my build.
NOPE, DONE with chinese mass production atomizers.....From now on I build my own thankyou very much!!!
I like both. They each have their shortcomings, and strong points. I have 2 kayfuns, and since I keep my Virginia in one of them for those 'cigarette would be good' moments, that really just leaves me one, to "play" with... it's soaking right now, has been soaking overnight, for some stuff I'm planning to mix up after breakfast -- Because I've found that one shortcoming of a kayfun is that the tank and base tends to hang on to old flavors, and flavors are so clear in a kayfun, you can still taste the old flavor even with a new flavor inside -- with a cartotank, I could just wash out the tank and bang, it's ready for a new carto and new flavor.
But both of them shine in the convenience dept, whether it's putting in a fresh carto, or rewicking a coil that's been in use for months but still works just fine. The kayfun is good for really light, delicate flavors; you can really taste them clearly. Cartos and cartotanks are good for flavors that come out too sharp in a kayfun, or are just generally a bit too "in your face." That's why I retired my small kangers; they require so much fiddling and STILL manage to either leak or give dry hits... nah, I'm completely OVER mini-protank2 and T3S.
Since I got my Igo-S, I'm slightly more interested in dripping, the tight airflow suits me well, so I might even get an Igo-L at some point... but it will never be a thing I'd want to do as a routine; I prefer a large tank that I don't have to fill too often -- kayfun or UDCT.
Andria
I own 2 Nautilus's an Innokin XI and have owned every Clearo since the CE2's....
the BVC's IF they work right are good....
The tank doesn't seem to be an issue. The carto you put in that tank is a different story. A bad carto can send you right back to whatever you were using before. A good carto means LOWER maintenance than most other devices. Granted I didn't see the early days of cartotanks but I can't understand why the first question I get from people when I say I use carto-tanks is "aren't those difficult to deal with?". Well with a good carto, no they aren't.
I've gone through a few different brands and styles of cartos. The best I've found so far are OG Cigs cartos. I don't have a clue where you can get those unless you live near Ragin' Vapor in Loganville, GA.
I've gone through a few different brands and styles of cartos. The best I've found so far are OG Cigs cartos. I don't have a clue where you can get those unless you live near Ragin' Vapor in Loganville, GA.
Maybe I'm lucky, but after 2 months or more on BVC I haven't had a bad one yet. Each one has lasted at least two (some a little longer) weeks to boot!
This is like everything else in vaping. What works for you is the right thing. Not everything works for everyone and everything has a trade-off. If the OP wants to invent a better way then God speed.
I am sitting here wondering why it happens that we cannot just accept the fact the what works for you works for you, I don't have to like it or agree with it. No one breaks any vape laws by enjoying their vape. Do what makes you happy.
Ed...sometimes you get a sliding scale discount for buying in quantities...I buy mine from OCD at ibtanked...and a few other places. OCD gives discounts for quantity, not sure how low they go though.
I am sitting here wondering why it happens that we cannot just accept the fact the what works for you works for you, I don't have to like it or agree with it. No one breaks any vape laws by enjoying their vape. Do what makes you happy.
Ed...sometimes you get a sliding scale discount for buying in quantities...I buy mine from OCD at ibtanked...and a few other places. OCD gives discounts for quantity, not sure how low they go though.
Also the IBTanks don't have a top/bottom orientation, so it's a simple mater of sliding a new carto in through the other side. So, it works even if you're using flanged cartos.
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