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There is so much commotion with all the "versions" and SS, Chrome, Copper Etc. that its no wonder everyone is a little confused. I was really hoping that Apollo was wrong and the SS Version from them would ship with the new internals and have Ohm reading and whatnot. I'm not worried about the 2.5 Amp limiter myself. Oh well.
 

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Oh dear... I'm really hoping my ss one satisfies me long enough that they have a chance to make the new internals in some kinda metal... chrome, something. Anyone have any idea how long that'll be? But I was THRILLED to see that the new one at ccv, with the ohm meter and higher amp rating was only $50 for the tube alone. That made me very happy. I really just don't know why they didn't at least make the caps the same powdercoated metal as the body. Now THAT i could justify.
 

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Oh dear... I'm really hoping my ss one satisfies me long enough that they have a chance to make the new internals in some kinda metal... chrome, something. Anyone have any idea how long that'll be? But I was THRILLED to see that the new one at ccv, with the ohm meter and higher amp rating was only $50 for the tube alone. That made me very happy. I really just don't know why they didn't at least make the caps the same powdercoated metal as the body. Now THAT i could justify.

Thanks Orachel that is what I was trying to find out. :2cool: I'll check out ccv.
 
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Oh dear... I'm really hoping my ss one satisfies me long enough that they have a chance to make the new internals in some kinda metal... chrome, something. Anyone have any idea how long that'll be? But I was THRILLED to see that the new one at ccv, with the ohm meter and higher amp rating was only $50 for the tube alone. That made me very happy. I really just don't know why they didn't at least make the caps the same powdercoated metal as the body. Now THAT i could justify.

If you are happy with single coils in the 2-3ohm range the LT should do whatever you need it to do and the higher amp limit wouldn't be needed. If you use dual coils you would get an advantage with higher amps but to make dual coils better than single it really would take twice the amps to drive them.

Otherwise you would be just putting out the same power as a single with a higher cost to the battery life because of the lower ohm rating of coils in parallel. Sure when there's a higher amp limit available in chrome or stainless I'll probably buy it when it's reasonably priced but I don't need it. If I get a really good deal on a chrome I probably would buy it 2.5a..although it would be nice to have an ohm meter in the device..I look forward to that more than the amps...
 

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Yeah, my standard vape is a 1.7ohm smok resurrector single coil at about 4.3v.. I'd occassionally push it higher than that if I could. Guessing the v1 lt will hold me to that or a little lower on the 1.7s. BUT I did recently fall in love with these amazing actual clearomizer 1.5 ohm dual coils... so for that reason the newer version would definitely come in handy. And yeah, I'm really curious to see what my attys and cartos are actually at, ohmwise, especially after they've been in use for a while. My voltometer just died. Is there any sort of a multimeter thing, separate from a pv, that will tell me not only volts but also ohms? I've never really looked into that, but I need to buy a new charger (thinking that xtar WP6 II at discount vapers is good deal. I like what I'm hearing about the xtars) and a ton of batts in different sizes, so a meter would be a good idea as well, esp if it could also tell my ohms. If anyone knows of one, or can refer me to one, I'd be mucho appreciative. ;) Oh, and I'm looking for bargain basement and works well, rather than top of the line in every way. ;) don't have the budget for the pilas of the meter world.
 

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Yeah, my standard vape is a 1.7ohm smok resurrector single coil at about 4.3v.. I'd occassionally push it higher than that if I could. Guessing the v1 lt will hold me to that or a little lower on the 1.7s. BUT I did recently fall in love with these amazing actual clearomizer 1.5 ohm dual coils... so for that reason the newer version would definitely come in handy. And yeah, I'm really curious to see what my attys and cartos are actually at, ohmwise, especially after they've been in use for a while. My voltometer just died. Is there any sort of a multimeter thing, separate from a pv, that will tell me not only volts but also ohms? I've never really looked into that, but I need to buy a new charger (thinking that xtar WP6 II at discount vapers is good deal. I like what I'm hearing about the xtars) and a ton of batts in different sizes, so a meter would be a good idea as well, esp if it could also tell my ohms. If anyone knows of one, or can refer me to one, I'd be mucho appreciative. ;) Oh, and I'm looking for bargain basement and works well, rather than top of the line in every way. ;) don't have the budget for the pilas of the meter world.

Yeah 1.7ohm is right at the limit at 4.3v..you probably would be better off using 2ohm on the LT..you should be able to get dual coils in 2ohms too but DC's might fall a bit short. I'm sure you could get a SmokTech 2-2.5ohm carto and with VV be able to drive it up to preform the same at a 1.7ohm. I'm sure you will be keeping your V1 LT so I'm really suggesting having cartomizers to use on it..I recommend 2.5ohm to give the best range but 2ohm would work ok.

You can get a digital multimeter for under $20 at most hardware or autoparts store..probably Walmart too..maybe even as low as $10..you just need to test the lead wires ohms by touching them together and subtract that to get the ohms when testing ohms on cartos..it would be close enough as you don't need to be exact...
 

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Orachel, I bought a decent little pocket MM at RS for around $20 with batteries. I used it while my Fluke was getting fixed. Honestly, it does a great job for what we use them for. Plus the leads store in it and it is built into a case that closes up. It ain't no Fluke, but it ain't hundreds of dollars either. Also, Sears has Craftsman MM's for around $20, and they are great as well. Avoid Actron (auto parts stores) as they seem to last for about a year before freaking out.

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RS.... RS... Not popping into my brain where that is. Oh, dur... here I am thinking vape places, and guessing you meant Radio Shack! lol Now that I can do, and I like the idea of the craftsman. I've literally never had a craftsman tool die on me. Of course, I don't use them rigorously or with great frequency, but still.... they tend to be rather decent in my experience. And thanks for the warning on the Actrons. Drives me nuts when something lasts just long enough to exceed the warranty, then poops out. Functional obsolescence at its finest. Thanks, Henry Ford, for that brilliant concept. lol And thank both of you guys for the info.. I really wasn't sure a regular old mm would do the ohm thing. I always figured reviewers were using some snazzy vapers version. rofl

And txtumbleweed.. I'm so sorry, hon... i didn't realize you were waiting for that info! I knew a week or so ago the new version were only gonna be in silver w plastic caps and 510 connection initially. But you know now, which is good. ;)
 

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Radio Shack might be a bit overpriced..Sears makes a decent one that's what I use..I have broken Sears tools but they replaced them..although with electronics like this it's probably only a 1 year warranty unlike metal hand tools they always had a lifetime warranty. Not long ago a micro screwdriver I bought in 2004 in a kit broke (shaft spinning in the handle) and they gave me a replacement..I've broken wrenches, ratchets and sockets too that they replaced.
 

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K... sears it is, then. Sounds like a plan. And i had no idea they replaced hand tools for life! I'm thinking about learning beginners wood carving, and wanna buy an elaborate dremel type tool with a bunch of woodworking bits. That doesn't extend to power tools, though, I'm guessing. ;) A shame, cause I like the idea of buying a cheap one and getting replacements for life! Hell, who wouldn't. ;) But of course I'll need to get a good set of chisels and the like, too, so sears sounds like the place to get those for sure, assuming they have some that are specialized enough. Guessing they will.
 

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Yeah I believe it's just sockets wrenches ect.. things like that..if they still are lifetime and I believe they are..yep they are according to Wikipedia..but power tools are 1 year for sure. The quality of there tools has gone up a lot since the 80-early 90's too..a lot are pretty close to how SnapOn and MacTools were...

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The Craftsman would be my pick between the two, but with Sears closing down all over the place it might be easier to find a shack. That being said, I have an old analog MM from the Shack that my dad used for years (I was a child when he bought it) and it is still fully functional and accurate as an analog can be. My Craftsman I bought when I entered the automotive field (7 years ago) also still works like a charm as well. I have 2 Flukes that rule; the one I sent to be repaired fell from about 15ft, smashed into the ground, and fell into a pool of bus-fluid ooze. It still worked, but would give random crazy readings. I think about buying an old surplus military/government one to set up on my desk and build a bunch of connectors for it to test everything. It would look cool, be cool, and you can pick them up cheap on eBay. You may have to check the calibration and maybe even have it calibrated (or DIY), but under light use it should be good for years without worry.

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Actually, some power tools are covered lifetime. I bought an old drill that someone made into a drill press and it ended up not working. I took it in thinking they would laugh at me, but they gave me a new drill! I guess it depends. I, personally, am a fan of Matco Tools, probably since I have a great Matco distributor. I hate Crap-on.....

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The Craftsman would be my pick between the two, but with Sears closing down all over the place it might be easier to find a shack. That being said, I have an old analog MM from the Shack that my dad used for years (I was a child when he bought it) and it is still fully functional and accurate as an analog can be. My Craftsman I bought when I entered the automotive field (7 years ago) also still works like a charm as well. I have 2 Flukes that rule; the one I sent to be repaired fell from about 15ft, smashed into the ground, and fell into a pool of bus-fluid ooze. It still worked, but would give random crazy readings. I think about buying an old surplus military/government one to set up on my desk and build a bunch of connectors for it to test everything. It would look cool, be cool, and you can pick them up cheap on eBay. You may have to check the calibration and maybe even have it calibrated (or DIY), but under light use it should be good for years without worry.

KJ

Radio Shack just isn't what it used to be..well nothing is but they are worse..used to be a nice small place you could get what you needed but a lot of things there now are not good and high priced..I still go there sometimes for little things though.

Actually, some power tools are covered lifetime. I bought an old drill that someone made into a drill press and it ended up not working. I took it in thinking they would laugh at me, but they gave me a new drill! I guess it depends. I, personally, am a fan of Matco Tools, probably since I have a great Matco distributor. I hate Crap-on.....

KJ

SnapOn used to be decent but overpriced..IDK anymore though..I do use a SnapOn toolbox sometimes but it's full of Mac, Craftsman's and assorted tools..my dad traded in an old toolbox he had for the SnapOn box (after telling me the old one was mine)..I believe it was a Cornwell but it's been close to a decade since it was traded.

I miss that toolbox I knew where everything was in it..he used it in his body shop's or where he worked for decades..I used it on and off for a couple decades too (after all those years the drawers worked flawlessly)..it was built in the 60's still worked great just needed to be painted..wish I could have got it back but they gave him $1,000..I hate the SnapOn box but it's built well..my dad hated it right after a years use probably..I can't get a box like the one he traded away..I can get ones about that size but not built like it :(

Never heard of Matco tools they probably aren't sold in Western NY...
 

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Omg, I'd LOVE to have one of those giant old tooldboxes with all the cantilevered levers! There's a red one at sears... I've been thinking about snagging it when I have the funds, but I really want one of the vintage ones. And yeah, you can't sneeze at $1000 for a toolbox. lol Of course if I got one it would end up for vapegear or altered craft stuff. I can fit all my tools in a drawer, unfortunately. My ex jackazz cleaned us out when he left, the sleaze. VERY unfortunate, since we probably spent 5k on really cool saws and stuff when we were married, which would be very handy now that im interested in woodworking and have nada moola. He never touched the stuff, it was just his man-loot. lol

And yeah, sears are getting more and more rare, but there's actually one at a mall in mesa, I know of. I'll probably get it from amazon. That's the thing to do.... You can get anything from sears and a million other stores from their amazon stores, and right to your house. Most of the time, shipping works out to free. I'm an amazon junkie. rofl
 

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Opened it up- no wrapping, just the envelope and the LT rolling around with the receipt. (I would have like to see it somewhat protected)
Sloppy button presses left me vaping air a few times already- firm press is needed on mine... not a big deal
Window looks like they crammed it in- doesn't fit right, and sticks out on edges.. not a big deal
Works fine with my 1.5 DCC Tank! Took it up to 4.6, then 5.0v before it got too hot for my tastes- but no errors!
tried egoT connections- 3.0 snaps and pops when dry... DCA 1.8ohm Cisco- worked fine!
DCC tank 2.0- worked! So- here's your long awaited SSLT PORN...


(I sacrificed my sleep time for you all to do this stupid vid- and i only have a gopro cam with no sound... maybe I'll give you some music? ...enjoy what it is, no need for stupid comments- I'm no Phil or Grimm, and have no equipment- or mic!)
 

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Below is my initial review on the Stainless Steel Mini Vtube by Apollo. It shipped wrapped in bubble wrap, enclosed in a bubble mailer envelope. Here are a couple of pics:

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It looks pretty heavy duty and feels good. The polished finish is definitely a fingerprint magnet. I was surprised at the size, I expected it to be a bit smaller. It is just a bit smaller than a standard Provari:

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The 510 connection is nice, but I don't like the pin style positive connection. Works good, and allows good airflow, but the slot in the pin will need regular cleaning of juice and gunk.

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Performance wise, it seems to work as advertised. I did have the button stick once on me, but tapping it released it. The voltage control and power buttons seem a bit cheap, and rattle around a bit, but not too bad. A standard AW IMR 18350 fits just fine with no issues. The voltage readout is close to accurate but not 100%. Below is a video of the voltage readouts with and without a load at 3, 3.5, 4, 4.5, 5, 5.5 and 6 volts. Ignore the audio it is just background noise.



Overall this is a great backup to my Provari, but I do wish it was a bit smaller. I am definately glad I waited for the SS version. And it looks awesome with a Damascus Lava Tank:

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