Perhaps non firmware upgrading is just their way of planned obsolete. Why bother shelling out for the rnd in software when you can continue pushing out hardware with a higher profit margin.
Yea. I'm biased.
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Perhaps non firmware upgrading is just their way of planned obsolete. Why bother shelling out for the rnd in software when you can continue pushing out hardware with a higher profit margin.
Yea. I'm biased.
Facts:
* sigelei and Suprimo boasted firmware upgrade.
* Vendors and reviewers advertised the same.
* Sigelei did not officially advertise it.
* Sigelei confirmed there is no firmware upgrading, much much later.
* Suppliers boasts the Fuchai 213 can firmware upgrade.
* Vendors are being advised it has firmware upgrade.
* Sigelei does not officially advertise it.
I see a pattern and smell something foul.
I do not care much for their reasoning behind the business model they wish to adopt. If they can't keep customers happy then it's their problem.
Fact:
* Luckily for them a lot of people still don't care and continues to purchase the Sigelei 213.
Which begs the question: Why the eff are they false advertising? This will only attract the customer base who are looking for those particular functionalities.
Answer: Competition. Sigelei is not the only company to employ such methods.
Unfortunately without regulation, companies are able to employ dodgy practices. Too bad for us our law and policy makers have an entirely different view on the matter. They'd rather tax the hell out of the vaping industry until its eventual demise.
With the introduced policies by the TPD and the approaching FDA, Australia will not be too far behind, and most likely it'll much worse here. The sale and supply of nicotine was illegal to begin with, and in the state of Western Australia the sale and supply of electronic cigarettes is already illegal.
Life is short; enjoy it while you can.
Edit: Yes, I am biased too, but justifiably.
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I think anyone who purchased the device with tc vaping in mind should be biased by now. If they're not then they have their head buried in the sand about what Sigelei has done.
They could've released in as another straight wattage device for cheaper and people would've been very happy with the product. Instead many of us feel ripped off.
It shows they are progressing through firmware versions for whatever reason.
I Pre-ordered a 213 Fuchai because I think after the 213 debacle they will make sure this one is correct.
I have no expectation of upgradeability and I'm fine with that if I know it upfront and it does what it says.
If not, I will terrorize them until I get a resolution.
I have no expectation of upgradeability and I'm fine with that if I know it upfront and it does what it says.
If not, I will terrorize them until I get a resolution.
You are brave. Keep us up to date. I reckon we all will be keen to hear your results.
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Damn mine is v1.5 But I have no idea what they have changed in these revisions.
My guess is they decided against FW to help prevent reverse engineering and try to protect their IP. I hope someone rips off their body shape and starts pumping out decent clones, hopefully forgetting the TC and just aiming for good wattage mode with preheat.
"TC is dead, POWER is the future, and the future is NOW" kek
This is China. It won't be long before clones of the mod begin surfacing on sites like FT, GB and 3FV.
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I just finished watching Daniel's review on the device. My reaction: 
I'm not lost for words; I just wish to save my breath. I did, however, find the review to be comprehensive and entertaining. I laughed at his "Koopor Cheese grater" comment.
I'm not lost for words; I just wish to save my breath. I did, however, find the review to be comprehensive and entertaining. I laughed at his "Koopor Cheese grater" comment.
I bought it strictly for ss tc. This was the first device I have ever really tried tc with. Oh well, nothing I can do except keep rocking power mode like I have always done, or use it in makeshift tc mode.
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I feel that way with this mod in my hand lol.
There's something that I can't make any sense of in all of this. I have a crown tank with an rba. Now, I have fought dry hits with this thing since I've owned it. At 50 watts it's almost guaranteed that I will eventually get a dry hit at some point.
I can vape it in power mode and that hit of death happens, yet if I use tc mode on the Sig 213 not a single dry hit. I've chained vaped it from 420F - 500F using the same watts I would get a dry hit with in power mode, and no dry hits. Isn't that one of the points of using tc? If it's not regulating how is that possible?
Now don't get me wrong, I'm not posting this to start a debate about the functionality or accuracy of the 213's tc, we've already established that it's horrible. I'm just baffled by it.
I can vape it in power mode and that hit of death happens, yet if I use tc mode on the Sig 213 not a single dry hit. I've chained vaped it from 420F - 500F using the same watts I would get a dry hit with in power mode, and no dry hits. Isn't that one of the points of using tc? If it's not regulating how is that possible?
Now don't get me wrong, I'm not posting this to start a debate about the functionality or accuracy of the 213's tc, we've already established that it's horrible. I'm just baffled by it.
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If I understand it correctly the problem wasn't with the mod not recognizing the change in resistance to regulate the temperature it was the fact that it re-reads the resistance every time you fire it.
Therefore, I am assuming, with a wet wick and a full tank each subsequent firing increases the resistance of the coil by a value that is small enough to be insignificant. Meaning you would have to perhaps chain Vape tanks of juice before you will notice a dry hit.
I believe DJLSB was testing TC accuracy with a naked coil, which results in a greater change in resistance so therefore a bigger magnitude in temperature discrepancy.
I guess for my purpose it's good enough then. Not like I can do anything about it anyway. Eh, whatever helps me sleep at night lol.
Just to chime in here...(don't have the 213 anymore) I was actually getting dry hits with a tank. To be exact,the Aromamizer Supreme which most know are virtually impossible to get a dey hit. This was due to the lack of resistance lock as Daniel has pointed out.
I disagree that it would take many tanks to get a dey hit... I do agree that it's an anomaly @Ken. Baffling indeed... Great thing is that you are getting some use out of it!
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